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These people don't realize that by vehemently denying that black lives matter, they are denying their own point that all lives matter? Black lives ARE lives. I've seen so many #AllLivesMatter assholes popping up on Tamir Rice posts, it's so irritating. They all have this self-satisfied air of "heh I sure showed them" about them.
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paranoid randroid posted:sooner or later, congress is gonna pass the skill check to repeal obamacare and then who will be laughing There's a 95.39% chance that Congress would have rolled at least one nat 20 by now over the course of 60 Obamacare repeal attempts. It's therefore a good thing that auto-success on a 20 is an optional rule.
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Doc Hawkins posted:You planning on running for office? Probably nothing bigger than local stuff
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FourLeaf posted:What you need to do here is put up an additional sign saying "Every time you deface this sign we donate X amount to the local NAACP. Carry on!" or something like that I figure every time one of these incidents gets in the local news, or people drive by and see it, "all lives matter" gets more negative associations in the minds of at least some of the people who are otherwise confused about why it's not a good response to "black lives matter." It's not much, but if people start avoiding it because it's associated in their mind with assholes who vandalize churches, that's probably an overall positive. Dr. Arbitrary posted:Probably nothing bigger than local stuff If you happen to live in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, the county prosecutor is an elected position, and I suspect the current one is rather unpopular with at least some of the residents. Just a thought.
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The problem with BLM is its bigger voices like deray always frame police brutality against blacks as primarily being from racism. This heightens racial paranoia by people who follow him and believe him, which seem like the majority of BLM. I'm pretty sure this paranoia led to two innocent deaths during the baltimore riots, so it isn't some nit picky thing.
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afeelgoodpoop posted:The problem with BLM is its bigger voices like deray always frame police brutality against blacks as primarily being from racism. This heightens racial paranoia by people who follow him and believe him, which seem like the majority of BLM. But..... it is primarily from racism? Institutional racism is still racism.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:47
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Only 27 more hours in 2015 to get in your hot take on the problems with BLM!
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Police brutality against all citizens in america is pretty ridiculous and while there is a racial component, it isn't the primary one. I do find their perspective reasonable, but both tunnel visioned and dangerous.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:49
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It's easy! Don't pack heat while black.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:54
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afeelgoodpoop posted:Police brutality against all citizens in america is pretty ridiculous and while there is a racial component, it isn't the primary one. I do find their perspective reasonable, but both tunnel visioned and dangerous. So what you're saying is.. all lives matter.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:57
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afeelgoodpoop posted:Police brutality against all citizens in america is pretty ridiculous and while there is a racial component, it isn't the primary one. I do find their perspective reasonable, but both tunnel visioned and dangerous. oh poo poo are you a sovereign citizen
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Dec 31, 2015 03:00
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afeelgoodpoop posted:Police brutality against all citizens in america is pretty ridiculous and while there is a racial component, it isn't the primary one. I do find their perspective reasonable, but both tunnel visioned and dangerous. The problem with this logic is, my white rear end has been pulled over in the past, I've driven with a broken taillight. As a kid I played with toy guns in public. But the chances of me getting shot for that? Absolutely miniscule. The chances of a black person being shot for those minor infractions? We all know the answer to that.
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Dec 31, 2015 03:02
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Joementum posted:Only 27 more hours in 2015 to get in your hot take on the problems with BLM! The problem with Black Lives Matter is that they're not going out of their way to tell white people that their lives matter, too, and white people need to be told this all the time, because they always have been, and if people stop doing it then maybe it's not true anymore. Whoops, that's actually a problem with white people, isn't it?
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If all the really bad cop produced propaganda was racial (some of it is) instead of a weird military like 'Us versus Civvies" I'd also see it as having a primarily racial component aswell. Since It isn't, then police brutality isn't a primarily racial issue. How many white bums have been killed by the police since kelly thomas? wasn't there like two other ridiculous cases since then? or that one white dude who got shot while being apprehended when mike brown was causing a stir? or that white kid getting killed for trying to drive away during an attempted arrest when freddie grays protests were going on? I'd never deny a racial compenent is there... it just isn't the primary issue. I feel making it the primary issue helped cause a few people to get beat to death, aswell as inspiring dylann roof, who claimed the ferguson protest is what radicalized him.
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afeelgoodpoop posted:I feel making it the primary issue helped cause a few people to get beat to death, aswell as inspiring dylann roof, who claimed the ferguson protest is what radicalized him. Holy poo poo, racism existing is NOT black people's fault. It's racists' fault. This is pretty blatant victim blaming you're doing here.
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RuanGacho posted:I'm not convinced that the NSA should exist at all as an offensive agency however. You would be if you understood what those offensive capabilities entail. The NSA is rasily demonized but it does some very significant things in service to thr national interest. Boon fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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Dec 31, 2015 03:26
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Joementum posted:Only 27 more hours in 2015 to get in your hot take on the problems with BLM! If it's black lives that matter how come people only complain when someone dies?
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I remember in high school, some dumbass friends and I went to film a school project in a public park and brought toy guns and - being the dumbasses we were - real swords from one kid's dad's collection. We did have the cops called on us, and instead of shooting us all on sight, they had one officer with a taser on us while the other sat us down and searched us one by one. After they established that we didn't have any weapons other than the swords, they escorted us out of the park, joking with us about the contents of our movie. Wanna guess what the difference was between us and kids like Tamir and Mike Brown?
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The Maroon Hawk posted:I remember in high school, some dumbass friends and I went to film a school project in a public park and brought toy guns and - being the dumbasses we were - real swords from one kid's dad's collection. That Tamir looked like an adult??
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The Maroon Hawk posted:I remember in high school, some dumbass friends and I went to film a school project in a public park and brought toy guns and - being the dumbasses we were - real swords from one kid's dad's collection. It's obvious that it was pure luck, and there is no other explanation.
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SquadronROE posted:Cool, thanks. That's a good idea, glad to see some positive change came out of that shooting. It'll lead to more no-knocks since the POI is now a prohibited possessor with a gun. You don't get to appear before the judge, much less a jury, and defend your name beforehand. PUGGERNAUT posted:But..... it is primarily from racism? Institutional racism is still racism. I think you and a few others are getting mixed up and/or reading too far into what's being said. You shouldn't have to be told that "all lives matter people are more likely misunderstanding or unaware than literal supremacists" and "this is institutional racism" aren't mutually exclusive statements, yet here we are. On the off case a goon goes outside and meets people, approaching someone who says "all lives matter" with something like Your Dunkle Sans posted:It should be pretty obvious that the literal, physical deletion of "black" from "lives matter" from the aforementioned signs speaks volumes more than the dogwhistling cover phrase "all lives matter." DeusExMachinima fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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PUGGERNAUT posted:These people don't realize that by vehemently denying that black lives matter, they are denying their own point that all lives matter? Black lives ARE lives. That depends. If they're bigots, their objective is just to deny black people agency. If they're useful idiots, then their lack of awareness is unsurprising.
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DemeaninDemon posted:It's easy! Don't pack heat while black. Or carry anything that resembles heat, or do anything at all really.
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Dec 31, 2015 04:29
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Or carry anything that resembles heat, or do anything at all really. http://www.theonion.com/graphic/tips-for-being-an-unarmed-black-teen-36697 quote:
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Crime, boy I dunno.
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Are the Bushes the stupidest family to ever run a nation, or merely among the stupidest?
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Are the Bushes the stupidest family to ever run a nation, or merely among the stupidest? There's some pretty stiff competition when you get into hereditary monarchies. Trump would say some really mean things about Charles II if he'd been running against him for King of Spain. 
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Dapper_Swindler posted:how is he in person. he seems interesting enough. Surprisingly shy. Mostay he seemed to want to just drink his coffee at kramerbooks. Seemed pleasant enough and I think he was with his mom a couple times. Or maybe he just looks after the same older woman.
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It's always the real life for these internet activists who should actually do something, but not something too disruptive or else they'll lose
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You'd think a campaign will keep tabs on the city hosting the RNC.
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Accidentally saying Chicago instead of Cleveland in this situation seems like the tamest gaffe ever.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Are the Bushes the stupidest family to ever run a nation, or merely among the stupidest? Compared with, say, King Carlos II "the sufferer", last of the Spanish Habsburg monarchs, the current crop of Bushes come across as modestly preferable. That's about as complimentary as I can manage.
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I disagree with the statement that "black lives matter" because it's objectively true that they don't, otherwise Rice's killers would have been charged, hth
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Mattavist posted:Accidentally saying Chicago instead of Cleveland in this situation seems like the tamest gaffe ever. You're assuming he wasn't just guessing.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Compared with, say, King Carlos II "the sufferer", last of the Spanish Habsburg monarchs, the current crop of Bushes come across as modestly preferable. That's about as complimentary as I can manage. Beat you to the reference. 
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Beat you to the reference. You edited in the bit about Charles while I was still typing!  Mattavist posted:Accidentally saying Chicago instead of Cleveland in this situation seems like the tamest gaffe ever. It's not the worst thing he's ever said, but it does carry a strong "I'm not really paying attention to those black people problems and they all sorta look alike to me" vibe. Which, if he wasn't already in the toilet, might have some impact on his campaign other than as a footnote in the future best-seller about how Jeb! completely botched what should have been a milk run primary.
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Mattavist posted:Accidentally saying Chicago instead of Cleveland in this situation seems like the tamest gaffe ever. Neither one was Chicago. It's just right wing fuckers diverting from real issues by pointing to Chicago/black on black crime, etc. Either that or Bush is genuinely ignorant of a few major news stories of the past year, ones that he could expect to come up at interviews.
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Rygar201 posted:Neither one was Chicago. It's just right wing fuckers diverting from real issues by pointing to Chicago/black on black crime, etc. The funny thing is it could really go either way.
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Mattavist posted:Accidentally saying Chicago instead of Cleveland in this situation seems like the tamest gaffe ever. that's true, on the other hand jeb bush doesn't care about black people
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