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I love berserk but I'm not gonna watch this poo poo. I just cant.
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Dec 30, 2015 17:39
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I'm gonna watch it but I won't be happy about it
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Dec 30, 2015 20:27
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Reds posted:Oh jesus the TV series is not going to be pretty if this was the best they could do on a movie budget. reposting the superior cut of that scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuk-fkA79pQ
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Dec 30, 2015 22:44
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.jpg posted:reposting the superior cut of that scene Too hot for American eyes apparently
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Dec 30, 2015 23:02
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Should I watch the original Berserk anime?
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Dec 31, 2015 00:41
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Yes.
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Dec 31, 2015 00:46
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I really can't be all that upset about Yet Another Bad Berserk anime, we've done this song and dance before and for all the issues with the release schedule the manga has it's still there doing its thing and being pretty drat good.
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Dec 31, 2015 01:02
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Mraagvpeine posted:Should I watch the original Berserk anime? Yes, particularly now that they have a remastered version of it (I mean, it doesn't look that good of a show anyway but they still managed to give as much an HD treatment as you can) but getting the Bluray rips is pretty much 
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Dec 31, 2015 04:55
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I think the 90s Berserk anime looks pretty good. Particularly everything leading up to and including the Eclipse.
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Dec 31, 2015 04:55
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Reds posted:I think the 90s Berserk anime looks pretty good. Particularly everything leading up to and including the Eclipse. yeah but it cuts out the nude severed torso standard army
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Dec 31, 2015 05:22
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Mraagvpeine posted:Should I watch the original Berserk anime? Everyone itt who thinks it's good seriously needs to take another look, it is some bottom barrel animation.
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Dec 31, 2015 05:22
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Mraagvpeine posted:Should I watch the original Berserk anime? No. It's pretty drat bad. The movies are better, though the CGI is very distracting. Neither do the manga justice.
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Dec 31, 2015 05:35
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IronicDongz posted:No. It's really really bad. You've been looking at an odd barrel, the animation is fine other than its refusal to show army scenes with more than a few people on screen as anything more than still pans. Reds fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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Dec 31, 2015 05:35
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The anime was the first berserk thing I watched and I thought it was great also the outtakes
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Dec 31, 2015 06:11
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scary ghost dog posted:yeah but it cuts out the nude severed torso standard army What is the nude torso army? It's been a while since I read Golden Age.
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Dec 31, 2015 07:36
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SatansBestBuddy posted:No. It's pretty drat bad. It's from 1998 dude. Yeah there's a lot of panning over stills but it gets way closer to the original manga than the lovely movies that don't even bother telling you half of the Hawk's names and is exceptionally well paced. Also the soundtrack is phenomenal.
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Dec 31, 2015 07:53
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:What is the nude torso army? It's been a while since I read Golden Age. You probably at least remember this guy: 
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Dec 31, 2015 08:00
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The 90s anime is very well directed, has the score, the backgrounds, while sometimes ridiculously low detail, I actually quite like the style of and helped the atmosphere a lot, and if you think that animation is bad you really haven't seen many low budget shows. They managed to squeeze out a lot more animation than they really should have been able to. It's not a perfect adaptation by any means, but judging it on its own merits I think it's a really good show. And on a personal note I imagine the lack of gore bothers people, but I don't care enough about that aspect to list it as a negative in my preferences.
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Dec 31, 2015 08:04
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The 90's anime is way more gory than they would ever get away with on TV nowadays without huge black censorship bars over everything. The Eclipse would look worse than the TV version of the last episode of Blood C.
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Dec 31, 2015 08:08
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Sakurazuka posted:The 90's anime is way more gory than they would ever get away with on TV nowadays without huge black censorship bars over everything.   To play devil's avacado for this, they expect you to buy the BDs for the full level of gore and couldn't be bothered accomodating for the TV broadcast. It still looks absolutely ridiculous. Expect me to be the 90s anime defence squad because I really like the anime for a number of reasons. Reds fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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Dec 31, 2015 08:13
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Reds posted:You've been looking at an odd barrel, the animation is fine other than its refusal to show army scenes with more than a few people on screen as anything more than still pans. Like the movies are horrible too, but they're all bad. Everything's bad. Just because it was the 90s doesn't mean it doesn't look like poo poo now.
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Dec 31, 2015 09:03
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The current simulwatch is one of the greatest anime series of all time and is also 80% panning over stills and other cost cutting stuff.
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Dec 31, 2015 09:15
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Sakurazuka posted:The current simulwatch is one of the greatest anime series of all time and is also 80% panning over stills and other cost cutting stuff. No you see, stills stopped existing after the nineties, every anime nowadays doesn't use them. Action still died with cel animation, didn't you hear. Gainax tended to cut costs as much as possible to provide good EVA action scenes, though. It's usually worth it until the last couple of episodes where everything is starting to fall apart in the budget department. You try finding me a show that doesn't use CG that gives fully animated army scenes that isn't low detail, a distance shot, or using every trick in the book to avoid animating many people at once. Cost cutting is constant and everywhere because animation is hard and time consuming. Most fluidly animated fight scenes in anime are incredibly short, and are constantly avoiding having to actually animate things. Considering the average length of Berserk's fight scenes they do a pretty good job keeping the animation budget together. Granted, the method of "make a painting of them hitting somebody instead to try to add impact to the attack" isn't exactly a common technique, that's certainly dated. But at least Guts is still animated actually swinging the drat thing, constantly. There are no action scenes where it simply avoids showing him attacking at all. I'm surprised it's as animated as it is given the budget and length of the action scenes. And things do look pretty good whenever Guts has a one-on-one fight with somebody. Reds fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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Dec 31, 2015 09:25
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Panning stills for battles have mainly been replaced by CGI shots of the same copy/paste horse and rider, progress!
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Dec 31, 2015 09:32
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Sakurazuka posted:Panning stills for battles have mainly been replaced by CGI shots of the same copy/paste horse and rider, progress! I appreciate Arslan Senki trying, but boy was it obvious when they ctrl-v'd animations. 
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Dec 31, 2015 09:38
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those guys are totally different, look at the eyebrows
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Dec 31, 2015 09:52
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bowmore posted:those guys are totally different, look at the eyebrows And then the first and third guys have the same eyebrows anyway. This clone-based army was a terrible idea.
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Dec 31, 2015 10:01
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We who were born triplets regret having only three lives to give in the service of our king.
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Dec 31, 2015 10:03
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bowmore posted:The anime was the first berserk thing I watched and I thought it was great Whether or not you watch the old anime, watch the outtakes. They're great. You can find them on YouTube.
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Dec 31, 2015 10:03
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The old berserk anime was basically a powerpoint presentation but it was a good one. With a nice soundtrack. It was animated by the same studio that made Pokemon, so... let that sink in.
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Dec 31, 2015 16:20
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It is good
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Dec 31, 2015 16:24
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Ccs posted:The old berserk anime was basically a powerpoint presentation but it was a good one. With a nice soundtrack. That studio made plenty of things before and after that aren't Pokemon, not sure what that has to do with anything. I just don't get where people get the lack of animation thing from, even in a scene like the hundred man fight there's a perfectly good animated shot for every still pan, and usually the pan is after he's hit somebody. I had always heard the anime described as having gently caress-all animation so I was surprised when I watched it, I don't think it deserves to be called that at all. On that note, the hundred man fight is still the silliest thing. You'd think after the first three hours and fifty men the plan of wearing him down isn't working before they charge headfirst into a meat grinder. That's the oldest comment in the book, though. Although one of my favourite scenes remains the time where some captain calls Guts's reputation exaggerated before he bursts through the door while killing three men in one swing. Reds fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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Dec 31, 2015 16:34
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Okay, true. Yeah, I liked the original series and had the same amount of animation as a lot of series. I recommend it, though the manga is definitely better.
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Dec 31, 2015 16:38
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The ideal situation has always been to read the manga while listening to the anime's OST.
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Dec 31, 2015 16:40
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I heard from a friend that I should skip the first episode of the anime. Said that it messed up the rest of the series. Any merit to that claim?
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Dec 31, 2015 17:23
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No.
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Dec 31, 2015 17:27
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Mraagvpeine posted:I heard from a friend that I should skip the first episode of the anime. Said that it messed up the rest of the series. Any merit to that claim? The first episode of the anime covers that snake count guy to provide a little context for the post-Golden Age world and to explain to the anime-only viewer that things went to poo poo. It removes Puck and condenses it a bit, but that's about it. There's nothing about it that would mess up the rest of the series because it's set afterwards so I don't know what your friend is talking about.
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Dec 31, 2015 17:28
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Mraagvpeine posted:I heard from a friend that I should skip the first episode of the anime. Said that it messed up the rest of the series. Any merit to that claim? Only if you're a Berserk virgin and are going into it expecting it to be a gritty realistic drama about medieval mercenaries or something. There are no episodes of the show which you should skip if you're going to watch the show, they're all at a pretty consistent standard.
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Dec 31, 2015 17:43
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Mraagvpeine posted:I heard from a friend that I should skip the first episode of the anime. Said that it messed up the rest of the series. Any merit to that claim? The first episode is the only great thing about that show. It's to this day the only Black Swordman stuff we have that's animated.
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Dec 31, 2015 18:03
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skasion posted:Only if you're a Berserk virgin and are going into it expecting it to be a gritty realistic drama about medieval mercenaries or something. Yeah, friend assumed that I did not know anything about the series. Since I read the manga already, I don't need to worry about "spoilers" or anything. Now I just need to find the series.
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Dec 31, 2015 18:26
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