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At a family party last night I was told with 100% confidence that Han Solo killed himself with Kylo's saber because Kylo asked him to "help him" and Han said "Anything".
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iSheep posted:At a family party last night I was told with 100% confidence that Han Solo killed himself with Kylo's saber because Kylo asked him to "help him" and Han said "Anything". If there's one thing this movie has taught me it is that the general public is shockingly terrible at watching movies.
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Dec 31, 2015 19:16
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I just don't understand how he could have reached that conclusion. But he is also an *aspiring filmmaker* so y'know he just sees things we normals don't.
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Dec 31, 2015 19:18
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iSheep posted:At a family party last night I was told with 100% confidence that Han Solo killed himself with Kylo's saber because Kylo asked him to "help him" and Han said "Anything". I guess it's just too complicated that Han could want a different thing than Ben and misinterpret Ben's words to reflect that. It's not exactly below the surface, or anything.
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Dec 31, 2015 19:21
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Saw it last night, great movie, poo poo film. I don't know if american folks would get what I mean by that strait off the bat, I guess what I am saying is the whole thing screamed of Hollywood producers demanding focus group script writing. They should have sacked off the entire star killer base plot or whatever the gently caress it was called, and used the time for an Empire Strikes Back style character development movie. The kind of thing that stands up as great 30 years on. They were so loving close too, but we need to see the 15-20 mins where Finn decides to stop running and/or give Rey some time to bond with Han before the inevitable happens. I loved the old films, Han particularly but found myself utterly indifferent about him kicking the bucket. So yeah, great movie, poo poo film.
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Dec 31, 2015 19:22
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Hulk Krogan posted:If there's one thing this movie has taught me it is that the general public is shockingly terrible at watching movies. the thing that absolutely astonishes me is people who think BB8 was flipping Finn off as opposed to giving him a thumbs up
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Dec 31, 2015 19:25
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I wish more films would get made instead of mere movies.
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Dec 31, 2015 19:31
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But it was shot on film?? So doesn't that make it a film? I'm so confused is there a flow chart or something that can help me with this.
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Dec 31, 2015 19:33
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Neo Rasa posted:Rey Tarkin. Yes please. When the next movie reveals that Rey smells bad... we'll know.
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Dec 31, 2015 19:36
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I often wonder why my love of Tarkin has no bounds, normally I do not share love for the villains for they are evil evil people.
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Dec 31, 2015 19:38
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jiggerypokery posted:
Yeah, pretty much this. I did find it funny that it took about 10 minutes for Finn to get from "alone in the desert" to "literally riding in the Millennium Falcon".
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Dec 31, 2015 19:56
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LolitaSama posted:Symbolically or practically? Finn needed to wander the desert, lost for 40 minutes, until the Force God was pleased. Finn is on the planet where the Empire got the last poo poo kicked out of it, so wandering around that planet dressed as an Imperial Stormtrooper may not be the best idea. Also he's just been traumatised and is abandoning all connections to his life as a Stormtrooper. Symbolism is not required.
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Dec 31, 2015 20:00
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iSheep posted:But it was shot on film?? So doesn't that make it a film? I dunno why this is mocked so much, it's easily accessible shorthand. The only real contradiction that could be raised is that all films are worthy of critical analysis, so it's pointless to differentiate two types, but there are clearly films that were created to stand up to that analysis and films that are not.
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Dec 31, 2015 20:07
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computer parts posted:Their treatment of the MCU (a similar property in terms of marketing potential and release schedule) and the actual text we have with The Force Awakens. I said "going forward", as in their future choices seem to be a bit more ambitious than what we got with TFA. Plus as the MCU developed they are hardly playing it "safe" in the same way TFA did. GotG and pretty much their entire Phase 3 line up suggest otherwise. I was not a fan of Jurassic World, but given hes really only ever made that and Saftey Not Guarnteed, Id still say its not fair to completely dismiss him as a director. I just think its a little early to just condemn Star Wars as some homogenous Disney safety net.
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Dec 31, 2015 20:14
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AccountSupervisor posted:Plus as the MCU developed they are hardly playing it "safe" in the same way TFA did. GotG and pretty much their entire Phase 3 line up suggest otherwise. Captain America: Civil War is literally another Avengers film because they have no confidence in the property.
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Dec 31, 2015 20:17
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mr.capps posted:I often wonder why my love of Tarkin has no bounds, normally I do not share love for the villains for they are evil evil people. Because he's Van Helsing gone evil.
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Dec 31, 2015 20:24
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computer parts posted:Captain America: Civil War is literally another Avengers film because they have no confidence in the property. Which turns out, is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. Also didn't Jurassic World have a bunch of trouble in the editing department, to the point where they cut out a ton of stuff because it didn't focus group well? Like how the older brother is a huge(er) creep and people were hoping he'd die.
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Dec 31, 2015 20:26
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computer parts posted:Captain America: Civil War is literally another Avengers film because they have no confidence in the property. If you followed the drama behind the contract negociations(RDJ not even being involved at first, spider-man, bosewick, etc etc), you'd know that wasn't true. I think the project has just grown in size because 6 superheroes fighthing eachother aint exactly a war. This is still gonna be a Captain America movie, no matter what the marketing leads you to believe. The only thing I'm kinda "worried" about is lots of stuff seems to have been added late in production.
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Dec 31, 2015 20:27
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ENORMITY of space hahahahaha
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Dec 31, 2015 20:33
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Neo Rasa posted:The twist is that Rey was evil and murdered all of the new Jedi as a young child so Luke force-mindwiped her and they sent her to some far out shithole. Rey is Revan and I'm 100% cool with that
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Dec 31, 2015 20:36
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computer parts posted:Captain America: Civil War is literally another Avengers film because they have no confidence in the property. Oh my bad I had no idea you traveled into the future to see the movie.
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Dec 31, 2015 20:50
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AccountSupervisor posted:Oh my bad I had no idea you traveled into the future to see the movie. Funny thing about trailers is that they're meant to inform you about the movie.
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Dec 31, 2015 20:55
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It's not an Avenger's movie the Hulk's not in it  Also the Trailer is telling me this is is mostly about Cap trying to save his friend. While the establishment is trying to keep him from saving his friend.
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Dec 31, 2015 20:58
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computer parts posted:Funny thing about trailers is that they're meant to inform you about the movie. Man of Steel had a pretty bitchin' trailer.
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Dec 31, 2015 20:59
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SnatchRabbit posted:Man of Steel had a pretty bitchin' trailer. Which accurately described the movie, yes.
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Dec 31, 2015 21:00
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computer parts posted:Funny thing about trailers is that they're meant to inform you about the movie. Trailers are advertising. The purpose of advertising is not to be informative.
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Dec 31, 2015 21:00
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What is this "Force Mindwipe" that people keep saying. Is it another video game thing? It sounds dumb and probably didn't happen.
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Dec 31, 2015 21:01
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Hulk Krogan posted:Trailers are advertising. The purpose of advertising is not to be informative. Oh, so if a trailer hypes you up then that's ok, but if a trailer makes a movie seem like poo poo, then it doesn't count and you can't judge until you watch the movie.
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Dec 31, 2015 21:01
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Movie trailers lately have a habit of spoiling the poo poo out of movies, see The Martian for a recent example. Disney to it's credit is very secretive so the TFA trailers didn't spoil poo poo. I feel like a good trailer should only show things from the first hour of the movie.
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Dec 31, 2015 21:02
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beejay posted:What is this "Force Mindwipe" that people keep saying. Is it another video game thing? It sounds dumb and probably didn't happen. Yeah, it sounds like that stupid Superman amnesia kiss thing from some of those movies.
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Dec 31, 2015 21:03
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Interstellar's trailer accurately depicted the movie, which was three straight hours of Matthew Mcconaughey driving through corn.
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Dec 31, 2015 21:04
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beejay posted:What is this "Force Mindwipe" that people keep saying. Is it another video game thing? In plenty of EU stuff, Books and Video games. It is possible to use the Force to manipulate someone's mind to completely forget their past or whatever. It's essentially a conclusion that comes from the thought of what if you took the Jedi Mind Trick, and amped it to make someone forget who they are permanently(until convenient plot happens and it all comes flooding back and you find out about it again).
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Dec 31, 2015 21:05
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Jedit posted:Also he's just been traumatised and is abandoning all connections to his life as a Stormtrooper. Symbolism is not required. Sounds like symbolism to me. Also its a movie, thus entirely symbolic. The force and stormtroopers are not real.
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Dec 31, 2015 21:06
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RBA Starblade posted:Interstellar's trailer accurately depicted the movie, which was three straight hours of Matthew Mcconaughey driving through corn. Would. I highly doubt she's been mind-wiped. Her being anything other than a naturally talented Skywalker wouldn't really make sense either.
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Dec 31, 2015 21:06
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Demiurge4 posted:Movie trailers lately have a habit of spoiling the poo poo out of movies, see The Martian for a recent example. Disney to it's credit is very secretive so the TFA trailers didn't spoil poo poo. The Civil War trailers, by contrast, showed pretty much all of the movie thus far.
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Dec 31, 2015 21:07
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computer parts posted:Funny thing about trailers is that they're meant to inform you about the movie. The greatest trailer I've ever seen was for The Devil Inside
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Dec 31, 2015 21:12
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Smoking Crow posted:The greatest trailer I've ever seen was for The Devil Inside That is a really good trailer.
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Dec 31, 2015 21:20
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beejay posted:What is this "Force Mindwipe" that people keep saying. Is it another video game thing? It sounds dumb and probably didn't happen. "you want to go home and rethink your life" is basically a mindwipe and that was in a movie so
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Dec 31, 2015 21:28
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computer parts posted:The Civil War trailers, by contrast, showed pretty much all of the movie thus far. If you're game, I would love to see you outline the story arc and major plot points. I'm curious how accurate you'll be having seen "pretty much all of the movie"
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:That is a really good trailer. That movie sucked a high hard one
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Dec 31, 2015 21:34
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