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So I had no idea the grouping system in this game was so mindnumbingly stupid. Given that there is in-game coop, I simply do not understand the reasoning behind the tonnage restrictions in pug matches. It seems very arbitrary and discourages playing with friends in a team game.
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Bait and Swatch posted:So I had no idea the grouping system in this game was so mindnumbingly stupid. Given that there is in-game coop, I simply do not understand the reasoning behind the tonnage restrictions in pug matches. It seems very arbitrary and discourages playing with friends in a team game. No tonnage restrictions = everyone drops in a 100 ton assault.
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Jan 1, 2016 05:59
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DancingShade posted:No tonnage restrictions = everyone drops in a 100 ton assault. I understand some restrictions but they're way too tight as is.
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Jan 1, 2016 06:07
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DancingShade posted:No tonnage restrictions = everyone drops in a 100 ton assault. Yeah, I get that. Being equal to the other side would be what makes sense though, and that is not what is currently in place. Tonnage restrictions make sense, but the current system of large teams having a tonnage limit that is not even close to equal with random pugs does not make sense when there is an in game voip.
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Jan 1, 2016 06:11
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How are the teams matched up, I assumed it was equal tonnage +/- maybe 20 tons to cut down on wait time.
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Jan 1, 2016 06:23
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Axetrain posted:How are the teams matched up, I assumed it was equal tonnage +/- maybe 20 tons to cut down on wait time. I don't think there's a drat thing that goes into it outside of getting two teams worth of groups together. We've ended up in far too many games where we're running very light against teams with 4 assaults and other heavies to boot.
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Jan 1, 2016 06:31
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Oh Snapple! posted:I don't think there's a drat thing that goes into it outside of getting two teams worth of groups together. We've ended up in far too many games where we're running very light against teams with 4 assaults and other heavies to boot. Ding ding ding. Bums on seats is how the matchmaker works.
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Oh Snapple! posted:I don't think there's a drat thing that goes into it outside of getting two teams worth of groups together. We've ended up in far too many games where we're running very light against teams with 4 assaults and other heavies to boot. there simply isn't enough players in the group queue to make the matchmaker behave like the pubby queue where tonnage matching and tiers is a thing they should at least increase a 12 man group to 700 tons, up from 600.
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Jan 1, 2016 06:44
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The looser limit on drop weight for smaller groups is because pugs cry if their choices are limited and cry because teamwork is OP. So take nothing but Arctic cheetahs and timberwolves.
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Jan 1, 2016 08:51
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TheParadigm posted:I have to really echo poptarts here. Spiders are just amazing to zip around in. I run mine with an active probe and a sensor range module. I'll have to try the medpulses out, I only had room for small lasers on mine. The way you feel about the Spider is the way I feel about the Shadow Cat. I really think this whole "specializing in one 'mech" thing is a great way to play this game. It's also great for when you're new and don't have a poo poo ton of money to throw around everywhere and spend 30m or whatever on any 'mech in the game.
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Bait and Swatch posted:Yeah, I get that. Being equal to the other side would be what makes sense though, and that is not what is currently in place. Tonnage restrictions make sense, but the current system of large teams having a tonnage limit that is not even close to equal with random pugs does not make sense when there is an in game voip. Counterpoint: Goons have fought and won against some really heavy drops running 3 ghost dads and packs of urbanmechs. Just because the pubbies are talking to eachother doesn't mean they are listening.
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Bait and Swatch posted:Yeah, I get that. Being equal to the other side would be what makes sense though, and that is not what is currently in place. Tonnage restrictions make sense, but the current system of large teams having a tonnage limit that is not even close to equal with random pugs does not make sense when there is an in game voip. About 6 months ago (?) Russ floated the idea of restricting group sizes to 4 in order to ease matchmaker load. There was a lot of pushback on that, so he backed off. However, if you'll notice, 4 members is pretty much the optimal tonnage for the current allocation system, and the more people you add, the worse it gets. Russ got his way, in a roundabout fashion. The current system is designed to punish teams for being larger than 4.
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Jan 1, 2016 16:20
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Oh hey smurfy isn't dead anymore neat
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Alpine is being replaced by another map http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/218691-january-road-map/
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Hi everyone, I'm very happy to discover that the shoot Robit game is no longer dead. I haven't played since the end of 2013, so I'm a touch out of date. I've applied to (re?) join Goonrathi per the OP. Could someone PM me the mumble info or approve my application for the forums please? I apparently have a collection of bad hunchbacks and an Atlas DDC. I also have about 1300 funbux and 750K cbills. I'm guessing I should buy some mechbays while they're on sale? Anything else out there that's particularly fun or cheap at the moment? And are there any decent builds for the HBK 4P/4SP/4H?
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Jan 1, 2016 16:47
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tarbrush posted:Hi everyone, The hunchback quirks should inform you of what builds work on them. Don't use XLs. Buy tons of mechbays. Don't buy champion mechs, but maybe buy Hero mechs if you really like what they offer.
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Jan 1, 2016 17:10
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the hero mechs were nice to buy when they were half off
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Jan 1, 2016 17:11
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Omg gently caress the tutorial
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Jan 1, 2016 17:19
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tarbrush posted:Omg gently caress the tutorial It's easy money. I hear Gary Oldman had been previously booked for VO work, so now it sounds more like pre-motorcycle-helmets Gary Busey.
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itarbrush posted:Omg gently caress the tutorial it takes like five minutes
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Jan 1, 2016 17:45
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I've forgiven it for giving me enough money to refit my Atlas in the OP build.
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Jan 1, 2016 17:53
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Pattonesque posted:Alpine is being replaced by another map Oh thank loving god.
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Jan 1, 2016 17:53
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I'm new but Alpine seems like the most awful loving map
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Jan 1, 2016 17:55
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Can anyone give me a build for the x-5
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Jan 1, 2016 18:13
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ZenVulgarity posted:I'm new but Alpine seems like the most awful loving map It's a decent capture point map, but for all other game modes it is completely lacking in interesting gameplay. If your team snipes, you take candy mountain and dominate. If you're fit for brawling, you have nothing to do all match long except soak damage. Tourmaline is a much, much better snipe friendly map.
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Pattonesque posted:Alpine is being replaced by another map And already pubbies cry out in anger about this cool and good change: http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/218706-petition-to-save-alpine/
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quote:· Breakable trees and roots in Viridian Bog – Due to the extra effort of our level artist we have made an initial round of improvements to Viridian Bog. These should be considered a first phase as we continue to improve the levels collision and play-ability. 
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If I'm not using an XL in a Griffin (and non-clan XLs do not seem fun what with the dying if I lose one torso), what size engine should I use?
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Alpine is bad because one team gets an enormous amphitheatre with cover in, and then the other team has to march into the amphitheatre up a ramp in near single file while every other mech on the team shoots at them. It is an objectively bad map.
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ZenVulgarity posted:Can anyone give me a build for the x-5 Something like this: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=64&l=e430287e159a54c59a165f50a99a1bc382e9eab7 You can go up and down on SRM and engine sizes for more heat sinks/speed, but that's the general idea you're gonna want to run for the X5. As tempting as it is, it's not worth dropping the MLs to gain free tonnage - the X5 can't stay in the pocket like an SPL Firestarter or ACH can, and has to do sort of "strafing runs" so it's nice to be able to reach out and touch the other team at range.
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Drone_Fragger posted:Alpine is bad because one team gets an enormous amphitheatre with cover in, and then the other team has to march into the amphitheatre up a ramp in near single file while every other mech on the team shoots at them. It is an objectively bad map. This, People bitch about Terra Therma but I think Alpine peaks has always been the worst map.
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People always bitch when its a map that shits on energy boats, but yeah alpine is seriously the worst map if you haven't packed anything with more than 500m range.
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Drakes posted:People always bitch when its a map that shits on energy boats, but yeah alpine is seriously the worst map if you haven't packed anything with more than 500m range. Terra THerma's issue isn't the heat it's that 'lets go fight at the butthole' is boring gameplay.
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Alpine was a huge part of why the game deteriorated into a long range meta when it debuted. If you've got a random map selection each drop and one map requires long range and the others aren't hurt by long range then GUESS WHAT loving HAPPENS? Good riddance alpine, when you are finally removed I will attend your funeral to dance and piss on your grave.
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Yeah, I kind of get irrationally angry when people think the problem with Terra Therma is the heat. Hint: It's not. The stupid middle area has some of the poorest gameplay design I've seen in recent memory of action games. If the middle area could be redesigned to not be "four narrow chokepoints into an arena with no cover", that'd be swell. Or block off the entrances for the first 5 minutes of the map (regardless of gametype), or something. It's painful to play and it's become a running joke for the late-night pub queue people to accumulate their vote multiplier and then drop it on Terra Therma at 0:01 to troll everybody. novaSphere fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jan 1, 2016 |
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SoftNum posted:Terra THerma's issue isn't the heat it's that 'lets go fight at the butthole' is boring gameplay. If the map had no butthole, it'd be an OK map. Plenty of interesting places for clashes to occur...but no, it's all at the butthole.
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novaSphere posted:Yeah, I kind of get irrationally angry when people think the problem with Terra Therma is the heat. Occasionally I am able to talk my team (yell at my team) to get them to go around pit of poo poo and stab the enemy in the rear end. Its a fun map when that happens. Otherwise its just 1 at a time up the hill to your doom.
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I just want more maps with massive environmental heat. There are plenty of cold maps, but not that many hot ones. Most people are just awful at managing heat and laser boats abound. If you are even halfway competent at not alphaing every time your guns recycle you can do really well against shut down idiots.
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Let's fight on a station built around a star
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Call it "Star Mech Base"
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