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pram posted:omfg that perms toggle thing
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did we do it? was this the year? what's left for linux to achieve in 2016? mods???
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Jan 1, 2016 02:56
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2016 the year of a macbook on my desk
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Jan 1, 2016 03:48
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i have great news to share, theres finally a unix fit for a desktop. yes thats right, all the power of unix with fantastic usability and taste. the name you ask? apple operating system x 10.11.2 'el capitan'
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Jan 1, 2016 04:06
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and heres the best part: its free!
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Jan 1, 2016 04:08
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next year, on the desktop
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Jan 1, 2016 04:14
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19 minutes until the next year of linux on the desktop begins
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Jan 1, 2016 05:42
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it's time to update the thread
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it 's still 2015 on the west coast. there is still time!
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Phoenixan posted:2016 the year of a macbook on my desk
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pram posted:and heres the best part: its free!*
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OS X is the best linux and it's been on the desktop for a while
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Phoenixan posted:2016 the year of a macbook on my desk
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2017 year of macbook on the linuxSuspicious Dish posted:The Year of the Linux Desktop has finally arrived. the permissions toggle on the right is actually good and i wish it came by default with every linux distro, where is this from? alternatively and even better please make linux handle permissions in a way that is low effort for dumb desktop users i just ran into this with lubuntu on homesrevers that need to be usable for computer illiterate normal people. why does ubuntu a self described desktop OS for end users not let you write to any added hard drives after you plug them in and format them by default? i will have to write "open terminal, type sudo chmod -R og+rwx /mnt/, enter password" on a post it note stuck to the loving servers
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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blowfish posted:2017 year of macbook on the linux just look at the group that is associated with the /mnt directory, grant it write permissions if it doesn't already have it, and then add whatever user you want to be able to write to drives to that group. when you create new users add them to that group. alternately, you can lock it down further by creating a group just for that purpose, and change the group to that
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Jan 1, 2016 15:28
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Broken Machine posted:just look at the group that is associated with the /mnt directory, grant it write permissions if it doesn't already have it, and then add whatever user you want to be able to write to drives to that group. when you create new users add them to that group. alternately, you can lock it down further by creating a group just for that purpose, and change the group to that I already chowned /mnt/ but I have to do it again every time I add a drive for some reason e: and in ubuntu a desktop os for computer illiterate end users in tyool 2015 everything should be writable to the user who plugs it in or formats it by default. at the very least there should be an option in the right click menu to make directories writable that asks for your password to sudo things in the background suck my woke dick fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Jan 1, 2016 |
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Jan 1, 2016 16:15
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blowfish posted:i just ran into this with lubuntu on homesrevers that need to be usable for computer illiterate normal people. why does ubuntu a self described desktop OS for end users not let you write to any added hard drives after you plug them in and format them by default? because you are relying on the desktop's automount, but installed "lubuntu" and lxde is self-described as "lightweight" aka totally loving featureless kde and gnome will handle this correctly because they have "bloat" (working features) p.s. you can manually configure this the old-timey way if you insist on using a neutered 1990s desktop: autofs.
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Jan 1, 2016 20:21
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blowfish posted:I already chowned /mnt/ but I have to do it again every time I add a drive for some reason /mnt is a directory in the root filesystem. it has permissions entries in the root filesystem. after you mount something at /mnt, you get the permissions for '.' in the mounted filesystem, and /mnt is no longer a directory in the root filesystem. that is how mount points work it is how mount points have always worked blowfish posted:e: and in ubuntu a desktop os for computer illiterate end users in tyool 2015 everything should be writable to the user who plugs it in or formats it by default. if you install a full-featured desktop this is exactly what happens. your problem is 100% self-inflicted
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Thanks mods for doing the needful, the deadline has been extended one more year to achieve dominance
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blowfish posted:the permissions toggle on the right is actually good and i wish it came by default with every linux distro, where is this from? come on, it says right in the url!!!!!
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hey guys i went out of my way to install a lightweight desktop designed for chinese shitboxes linux is so loving bad, there are no desktop features!!!
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Jan 1, 2016 20:26
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blowfish posted:2017 year of macbook on the linux unix perms are already handled well in a good os FYI 
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:kde and gnome will handle this correctly because they have "bloat" (working features) do you know the name of whatever thing they use to accomplish this? or is it just autofs?
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There Will Be Penalty posted:do you know the name of whatever thing they use to accomplish this? or is it just autofs? kde talks to udisks2 via dbus gnome probably does the same thing but i'm not sure
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in a good linux on the desktop, os x, when you plug in a removable disk and it is automounted, it defaults to "ignore privilege" mode, which does about what youd think fstab is vestigial in os x, so much so its been years since you got a fstab file at all in the default installation. hardly anybody is ever forced to create one because automount+ignore privs covers 99.99% of desktop use cases
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:hey guys i went out of my way to install a lightweight desktop designed for chinese shitboxes me: hey it's a server and needs nothing beyond minimal GUI, let's install a minimal desktop environment what could possibly go wrong  though yeah this is a good point and i should probably switch to a better desktop, i didn't realise "no bloat so it runs on ten year old shitboxes" went so far as to include "won't give you write permissions for things"
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Phoenixan posted:is gnome 3 even that hardware intensive? it requires opengl acceleration. kde doesn't, though.
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blowfish posted:though yeah this is a good point and i should probably switch to a better desktop, i didn't realise "no bloat so it runs on ten year old shitboxes" went so far as to include "won't give you write permissions for things" it's not like kde and gnome sat down and said "gee how can we consume extra resources" neckbeards raving about "bloat" drive me crazy. google chrome will consume more system resources than pretty much everything the desktop does combined, but you don't see people using "minimal" "lightweight" web browsers
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hey linux0rs someone please make my magic trackpad work properly it pairs no problem, hard click works, tap 2 click, scrolling, etc, of all kinds, do not work. i kind of suspect that it's being treated like a mouse instead of a synaptics thing but i dont know how to confirm that and i rly don't want to learn much about xorg input stuff. pre:dmesg | grep Magic [ 728.859291] hid-generic 0003:05AC:0265.0005: hiddev0,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Device [Apple Inc. Magic Trackpad 2] on usb-0000:00:14.0-2/input0 [ 728.860464] input: Apple Inc. Magic Trackpad 2 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.1/0003:05AC:0265.0006/input/input18 [ 728.860847] hid-generic 0003:05AC:0265.0006: input,hiddev0,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Apple Inc. Magic Trackpad 2] on usb-0000:00:14.0-2/input1 [ 728.862030] hid-generic 0003:05AC:0265.0007: hiddev0,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Device [Apple Inc. Magic Trackpad 2] on usb-0000:00:14.0-2/input2 [ 728.863208] hid-generic 0003:05AC:0265.0008: hiddev0,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [Apple Inc. Magic Trackpad 2] on usb-0000:00:14.0-2/input3 [ 787.773037] input: Magic Trackpad 2 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-7/1-7:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:256/0005:004C:0265.0009/input/input19 [ 787.774173] hid-generic 0005:004C:0265.0009: input,hidraw0: BLUETOOTH HID v0.62 Mouse [Magic Trackpad 2] on 60:57:18:cf:33:24 supposedly i need to install the hid_magicmouse kernel module. i did `sudo modprobe hid_magicmouse` and it gives me no failures, but when i reboot, i don't see any indication of it when i do lsmod this is the limit of my linux ability. someone please help (I am on fedora 22) e: also, xinput --list code:DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it's not like kde and gnome sat down and said "gee how can we consume extra resources" i think when sane people complain about bloat, they're really complaining about system complexity and not system resources. but really caring too much about either one in your desktop OS is pretty silly.
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http://wiki.lxde.org/en/PCManFM#Featuresquote:Volume management (mount/unmount/eject, requires gvfs) with optional automounting looks like the lxde filemanager has the feature. probably missing gvfs or some of the other packages that do the actual mounting work.
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:hey linux0rs someone please make my magic trackpad work properly it looks like the the hid-magicmouse driver doesn't support magic trackpad 2 yet, so the hid-generic driver is binding instead. notably there's no ID for it in the hid-ids header: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/hid/hid-ids.h#L74-L76 since the new ones support "force touch" and poo poo i'm betting it's all weird and apple-proprietary. if i were you, i would go buy an original magic trackpad while they're still available.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it looks like the the hid-magicmouse driver doesn't support magic trackpad 2 yet, so the hid-generic driver is binding instead. i had a feeling this might be the case, thanks
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i dont suppose i can force it to use the other driver somehow i don't really care about anything fancy working because i dont use gestures, i just want two finger scrolling to work DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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Jan 2, 2016 01:10
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:i dont suppose i can force it to use the other driver somehow ok so there are two layers here
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or you could just buy last year's mouse, which costs less and already works without patching your kernel or filing bug reports
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Yeah I tried the catchall approach and it doesn't work. Perhaps gnome or KDE are overriding some setting there, though, because the configuration i stuck in there also isn't being applied to the touchpad built into my thinkpad. if i cant make this work in the next hour or so i'll just order the old touchpad.
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:Yeah I tried the catchall approach and it doesn't work. we already know for sure that you have a kernel driver problem i mentioned the Xorg end of things just so you wouldn't stumble over that in the event that you successfully got hid-apple to bind to the device
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:we already know for sure that you have a kernel driver problem oh gotcha, i'm a dummy. yeah i'm giving up on this, i'm not at all interested in dealing with kernel stuff. thanks 4 you are help, bsd
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