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Acaila posted:Not sure if next film speculation is ok in here, but Episode 8 will be filming in Iceland apparently. Good thing to bring up since episode 8 filming begins within the next week or two. Should this thread be updated to be the general Episode 8 spoilers thread while the other one is the general non-spoiler one?
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starkebn posted:Back off the kool-aid buddy. The scary bad men just seemed to act so stupidly during the film I want to find justifications to find them scary other than they're literally Nazis. Doesn't it seem significant that they're failing at being scary? Almost every FO character that the camera focuses on is a baby-face. Jojen Reed in the control room, the captain giving bad news to Kylo, and Hux himself, none of them even need to own a razor. They even panic and flee Starkiller as it's going down. Contrast that to grizzled, old Tarkin and his "Evacuate? In our moment of triumph?" scene. I agree that the First Order is a bunch of kids trying and failing to copy the Galactic Empire. But to me it seems intentional rather than an error by the film.
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Teek posted:Good thing to bring up since episode 8 filming begins within the next week or two. Should this thread be updated to be the general Episode 8 spoilers thread while the other one is the general non-spoiler one? That's the idea, yes.
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Teek posted:Good thing to bring up since episode 8 filming begins within the next week or two. Should this thread be updated to be the general Episode 8 spoilers thread while the other one is the general non-spoiler one? drat, didn't they finish filming for TFA in November? With the media blitz and everything that's not a lot of time off for anyone involved.
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Demiurge4 posted:drat, didn't they finish filming for TFA in November? With the media blitz and everything that's not a lot of time off for anyone involved. What the hell? This is not how films work. Surely you mean November a year or two years ago.
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Demiurge4 posted:drat, didn't they finish filming for TFA in November? With the media blitz and everything that's not a lot of time off for anyone involved. I don't think so, JJ finished the edit in November I think. Main TFA filming wrapped in November of 2014. Edit: Looking into it, started filming mid-May and ended at the beginning of November. So 5 1/2 months, episode 8 I'm guessing runs through this June. Teek fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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The filming was done a while back. You might be thinking of the EDITING process, which I believe ended two months ago.
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Yeah it was 2014. My bad.
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They were really cutting it close, but Luke's beard finally came in fully on Dec 15th and they were able to, thankfully, wrap production and send the film out to the movie theaters next day express for the Dec 17 opening showings The hollywood premiere unfortunately featured a Luke with a much scragglier beard
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Jerkface posted:They were really cutting it close, but Luke's beard finally came in fully on Dec 15th and they were able to, thankfully, wrap production and send the film out to the movie theaters next day express for the Dec 17 opening showings
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Jerkface posted:They were really cutting it close, but Luke's beard finally came in fully on Dec 15th and they were able to, thankfully, wrap production and send the film out to the movie theaters next day express for the Dec 17 opening showings So the version that terminally ill guy got to watch was just Luke with a pube stache?
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Krispy Kareem posted:So the version that terminally ill guy got to watch was just Luke with a pube stache? He died without ever knowing that Luke can grow a full rear end beard
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Jerkface posted:He died without ever knowing that Luke can grow a full rear end beard Luckily we only see his face beard in the movie.
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starkebn posted:Only argument I will accept, but it's just dumb. The bad guys are always extremely dumb and have no military smarts. Well they are Nazis.
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People unfamiliar with history think that the Nazi state and their war machine were a roboticly efficient juggernaut. After all, their own unrelenting propaganda campaign spent years presenting themselves as such. In reality they were a bunch of unbelievable fuckups that fell rear end backwards into mindbogglingly success. So the Empire being filled with a bunch of incompetent losers is actually realistic.
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Nazis also put too much faith in super weapons.
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Something I noticed while rewatching tonight: During Reys flashback in Maz' basement the camera goes to a real low angle and shows one of the Knights of Ren about to strike the cameras POV and before they can swing they are killed by Kylo Ren. This is when it cuts to the wide shot of Kylo Ren and the rest of the Kinghts of Ren in the rain. Sorry if this has already been pointed out but I think it further solidifies the theory that Rey was present for the betrayal and rather than killing her, Kylo instead abandoned her someplace out of the way.
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The MSJ posted:The new Chewbacca comic reveals that Chewie did get a medal, but it was after the ceremony. It's funny because it kinda reminds me of Hitler shaking hands with Jesse Owens before they left the stadium, and the medal ceremony being inspired by Triumph of The Will. In the Third Draft script, everyone gets a medal, even the droids: The Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Starkiller, Third Draft posted:Leia is dressed in a long, white dress and is staggeringly beautiful. She rises and places a gold medallion around Han’s neck, then repeats the ceremony with Chewbacca, the robots and finally Luke. They turn and face the assembled troops, who all bow before them. If you ask me, the only reason Chewie doesn't get a medal in the film is for pacing reasons, and because Lucas wanted the focus to be on the two characters who actually have fully-fledged heroic character arcs. Now, you could argue that it's inherently "racist" that Chewie--along with the droids--is relegated to playing second-fiddle to the human characters in the film. But the reality is that he basically is just a guy in a big shaggy dog costume who's there to provide a sense of whimsy and comic relief. In any case, Lucas's explanation was always the same as the EU's explanation: The Making of Star Wars posted:“Chewbacca wasn’t given a medal because medals don’t really mean much to Wookiees. They don’t really put too much credence in them. They have different kinds of ceremonies. The Wookiee Chewbacca was in fact given a great prize and honor during a ceremony with his own people. The whole contingent from the Rebel Alliance went to Chewbacca’s people and participated in a very large celebration. It was an honor for the entire Wookiee race.”
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Dr. Poz posted:Something I noticed while rewatching tonight: During Reys flashback in Maz' basement the camera goes to a real low angle and shows one of the Knights of Ren about to strike the cameras POV and before they can swing they are killed by Kylo Ren. This is when it cuts to the wide shot of Kylo Ren and the rest of the Kinghts of Ren in the rain. Sorry if this has already been pointed out but I think it further solidifies the theory that Rey was present for the betrayal and rather than killing her, Kylo instead abandoned her someplace out of the way. If that's the case, it would put the Luke's Daughter is Rey theory into question, but if Luke felt all were killed, then perhaps he thought Rey was killed and went to Space Ireland to watch seagulls or something. I think I still want the theory that Rey is the child of students of Luke to be the truth. It does make the Jedi less Skywalker centric. The Rey is Luke's daughter will probably turn out to be true, so Kylo Ren has a challenge for the legacy of the Skywalkers.
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Dr. Poz posted:Something I noticed while rewatching tonight: During Reys flashback in Maz' basement the camera goes to a real low angle and shows one of the Knights of Ren about to strike the cameras POV and before they can swing they are killed by Kylo Ren. This is when it cuts to the wide shot of Kylo Ren and the rest of the Kinghts of Ren in the rain. Sorry if this has already been pointed out but I think it further solidifies the theory that Rey was present for the betrayal and rather than killing her, Kylo instead abandoned her someplace out of the way. I thought the guy Kylo killed was a Jedi.
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I feel super bad if this got asked a million times but I just got to see the movie: Do we know why Kylo was hitting himself repeatedly in his ribs/sides during the snowy forest Lightsaber battle? Self-harm? Fantastic movie. The MSJ posted:The shipping is well under way. These two own but I kinda want Finn to get with everyone.
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Bottom Liner posted:Are you being purposely oblivious to Vader's redemption in RotJ? There's no way in hell this becomes a Kylo Ren redemption story when they used the first movie to make you hate him and see how nuts he is. and Vader murdered 30 kids. Its like, 95% likely that they give him some sort of redemption story It might be like Vader and he'll turn at the last minute and sacrifice his life, or, (more likely from what I can guess) they'll go the route of Zuko from Avatar and give him a whole redemption storyline.
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Armani posted:I feel super bad if this got asked a million times but I just got to see the movie: Because getting hit with CHewie's bowcaster literally explodes people, and they didn't want us to forget how physically and forcally powerfully Kylo Ren was? Also, you know how you rub your arm when someone punches it? Probably something like that.
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Armani posted:I feel super bad if this got asked a million times but I just got to see the movie: Maybe he is hurting himself to make himself angrier and thus more in tune with the Dark Side.
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The punching himself in the side was perhaps the most memorable aspect of the character. I wonder if it was in the script or Driver's idea. It's extremely dense in terms of characterization.
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Mike N Eich posted:and Vader murdered 30 kids. We did not know this when RotJ released.
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Bottom Liner posted:We did not know this when RotJ released. But you did know he was a murderer/torturer/killer of his father (figure)/party to planetary destruction. Are you saying that RotS undoes Anakin's RotJ redemption? That's real dumb. Prolonged Panorama fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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Prolonged Priapism posted:But you did know he was a murderer/torturer/killer of his father (figure)/party to planetary destruction. Are you saying that RotS undoes Anakin's RotJ redemption? That's real dumb. We also know he helped hunt down and kill the Jedi, even if that didn't necessarily imply children yet.
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I know that this way lies the dark shadow of the Eu and the ridiculousness of the Mos Esley cantina, but I want to know more about Resistance Spy Robot Jazzman. He's too cool for a five-second shot.
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Why is it so hard to find pictures of Snoke online? The movie's been out 2 weeks now.
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:Why is it so hard to find pictures of Snoke online? The movie's been out 2 weeks now. Just watch a stream of some lovely cam recording and get them yourself if you want.
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Armani posted:Do we know why Kylo was hitting himself repeatedly in his ribs/sides during the snowy forest Lightsaber battle? Self-harm? The reverse. Kylo needs negative emotions to use his Dark Side powers, but he's not feeling enough. So every time the wound Chewie gave him stopped hurting he hit it to make himself feel worse.
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Yeah this is right after he killed his dad and didn't immediately become a sith legend. He's looking for anything to fuel the dark side.
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Dr. Poz posted:Something I noticed while rewatching tonight: During Reys flashback in Maz' basement the camera goes to a real low angle and shows one of the Knights of Ren about to strike the cameras POV and before they can swing they are killed by Kylo Ren. This is when it cuts to the wide shot of Kylo Ren and the rest of the Kinghts of Ren in the rain. Sorry if this has already been pointed out but I think it further solidifies the theory that Rey was present for the betrayal and rather than killing her, Kylo instead abandoned her someplace out of the way. Yeah that was my interpretation too. A viewpoint from a low POV, watching Ren save the viewer from someone about to attack. Ren totally couldn't bear to execute a little 5-year old girl, so he dropped her off on Jakku and rolled out.
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Fly Molo posted:Yeah that was my interpretation too. A viewpoint from a low POV, watching Ren save the viewer from someone about to attack. Which would explain why he seems so intensely interested in any news from Jakku about a girl. So essentially this is Snow White and Jakku is the Huntsman who couldn't follow orders.
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PassTheRemote posted:If that's the case, it would put the Luke's Daughter is Rey theory into question, but if Luke felt all were killed, then perhaps he thought Rey was killed and went to Space Ireland to watch seagulls or something. That Pablo Hidalgo guy on Twitter said that that wasn't even the same planet as the Jedi Massacre.
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Wouldn't it be great if these things came across in the film, rather than the pseudo-EU of the crew explaining their intent via tweets and interviews?
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