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GabbiLB
Jul 14, 2004

~toot~

tater_salad posted:

Apparently mice like toyota wire covering my parents have lived in the country and had Hondas Subaru and toyotas, toyota wires got eaten by mice a few times, dealer confirmed they had this issue quite often. They tried traps in the car outside the csr, parking further away no wind, eventually sold it and got another Subaru no issues with mice.

There's a ton of mice where I live and they love to poo poo and piss all over my engine but luckily they don't seem to be eating anything. Last time I was working under the hood I decided to take off the engine cover because it was gross and full of mouse turds and I discovered they also left me presents underneath the cover all over my coils.


stealth edit: Also I just remembered a time when a squirrel left a nut wedged underneath my dads throttle body so you couldn't press the pedal down at all.

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spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Buhbuhj posted:

There's a ton of mice where I live and they love to poo poo and piss all over my engine but luckily they don't seem to be eating anything. Last time I was working under the hood I decided to take off the engine cover because it was gross and full of mouse turds and I discovered they also left me presents underneath the cover all over my coils.

Think I read somewhere that the official way to get rid of furry pets is to put your car in a tent and fill it full of poisonous gas.

Though I don't recall how you are supposed to gt the rotting corpses out from behind the dashboard afterwards.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
Nothing furry, but Mazda had a recall on SPIDERS a few years back. My sister has a huge phobia and was not happy to learn that about her 6.

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.
There are O2 sensors sold in India that have a completely metal cap because ants chew through the grommet filter and allow water inside.

Mercury Ballistic
Nov 14, 2005

not gun related

tater_salad posted:

Apparently mice like toyota wire covering my parents have lived in the country and had Hondas Subaru and toyotas, toyota wires got eaten by mice a few times, dealer confirmed they had this issue quite often. They tried traps in the car outside the csr, parking further away no wind, eventually sold it and got another Subaru no issues with mice.

Mice ate through my imprezas wire in some spots and threw an airbag warning light. I was told it was common in the area on Subarus, maybe the rodents have brand preference in different areas?

clam ache
Sep 6, 2009

xergm posted:

No joke, I had a squirrel pull out some the wires from the control board which controls all the touchscreen stuff in my car.

We had a squirrel set off a knock sensor in a kia Rio hatchback. Is also had lots of blood and guts causing some belt squeal.

clam ache
Sep 6, 2009

Uthor posted:

Nothing furry, but Mazda had a recall on SPIDERS a few years back. My sister has a huge phobia and was not happy to learn that about her 6.

Double post but. I did hundreds of these recalls and found one dead spider body. And it was a surprise to all the other techs in the dealership because they only found webs ever.

morethanjake32
Apr 5, 2009

Cakefool posted:

Market stall. Just be glad we're pretty sure it was a rabbit, not a cat.

Roof Rabbit?

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

FRIED CHICKEN
Slippery Tilde
We had a squirrel get in the engine bay of a 2002 Frontier and eat the spark plug wires and injector harness for the passenger side bank.

gently caress furry creatures that gnaw on stuff.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

When I was still an electrician, I got the pleasure of troubleshooting a bunch of lights and outlets the had mysteriously stopped working, turns out a squirrel had chewed out a 2" section of 12ga. wire, right through the copper, turns out the cloth sheath on old rubber-insulated wire makes great squirrel beds. Lucky for the squirrel it was knob&tube, so it could chew through each conductor individually without frying its poor little brain.

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

Elviscat posted:

the cloth sheath on old rubber-insulated wire makes

IIRC the "cloth" was asbestos, so I hope that squirrel enjoyed it's mesothelioma.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


rndmnmbr posted:

IIRC the "cloth" was asbestos, so I hope that squirrel enjoyed it's mesothelioma.

yeah, take that you stupid squrrel. Next time you'll read the MSDS, fucker.



imagine that embarassing call to the tow truck company.

"yeah, it's a.....a 1987 batmobile."

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Probably a Fiero actually.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


xzzy posted:

Probably a Fiero actually.

That picture is from russia, meaning it's a lada.






60% of the time it's a lada, every time.

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005

kastein posted:

All MJs, XJs, I believe all YJs, and possibly some TJs got the bolt tensioner. Not sure. WJs and late TJs (unsure of year split) I believe had the spring tensioner.


???

My Partner's XJ has a spring tensioner.

I can't even imagine the level of masochism that must be needed to do body mods on a Niva.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


the 2013+ 3.5 and all 2.7 ecoboosts have a stretch belt. You cut the old one off, and need a $50 tool to put a new one on.

The water pump is driven off the timing belt though, so you can drive until the battery is dead and it won't mean an engine rebuilt if you do.

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005

Powershift posted:

the 2013+ 3.5 and all 2.7 ecoboosts have a stretch belt. You cut the old one off, and need a $50 tool to put a new one on.

The water pump is driven off the timing belt though, so you can drive until the battery is dead and it won't mean an engine rebuilt if you do.

So if the water pump bearing fails the engine self destructs?

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
My first car was a 1997 Oldmobile Achieva and when I went to replace the air filter there was a squirrels stash of acorns in there.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


General_Failure posted:

So if the water pump bearing fails the engine self destructs?

Take this with a grain of salt, as it's third word from a ford pit jockey.

Ford has changed from B10 to B50 for their vehicle ratings. they used to say by 150,000 miles, 10% of the vehicle's major systems would need overhaul. Now they say by 250,000 miles, 50% of vehicles major systmes would need overhaul.

Meaning, instead of needing a rebuild of a few bits by 150,000 miles, the entire vehicle is basically disposable at 250,000 miles, unless you're ready for a complete restoration.

That's not a major loss though, as most trucks around here are seen as disposable at 200,000kms, which is only 120,000kms. That means you can buy a drat good truck for $2000 and have 100,000 miles to run it into the ground.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





While I don't necessarily agree with the line of thinking that says it's okay to design cars to a specific failure point... how many vehicles, even today, see the high side of a quarter million miles? To the vast majority of the population, a 250k vehicle is one you drive until something major fails, then you scrap it. 250k at even 20k miles per year is enough time for a vehicle to be in pretty beat condition, let alone 10-15k per year.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


IOwnCalculus posted:

While I don't necessarily agree with the line of thinking that says it's okay to design cars to a specific failure point... how many vehicles, even today, see the high side of a quarter million miles? To the vast majority of the population, a 250k vehicle is one you drive until something major fails, then you scrap it. 250k at even 20k miles per year is enough time for a vehicle to be in pretty beat condition, let alone 10-15k per year.

These things can't last forever though.

Cummins has used B50 forever. The first 5.9 in the cummins was B50 160,000 miles. The current ISB 6.7 is B50 250,000 miles. the ISX is B50 520,000 miles and any truck salesman will ram that down your throat because that happens to be the longest warranty you can buy.

The fact that ford thinks their 6.2 gasser will last as long as a 6.7 cummins says something.

I can't speak for any other market, but locally a ford F250/350 gasser with 200,000kms/120,000mi is esentially worthless in my local economy. To think that the manufacturer thinks that's less than half of the trucks life and you can pick them up for peanuts is comforting.

My own truck i paid $750 for with 190,000kms, and i would challenge any new truck to outlive it. i would bet any money against a new truck, driving coast to coast endlessly, that my truck will be the last one on the side of the road.

McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


Powershift posted:

i would bet any money against a new truck, driving coast to coast endlessly, that my truck will be the last one on the side of the road.

I'll take that bet. :getin:

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


McTinkerson posted:

I'll take that bet. :getin:

You seem to forget that i have a 3.5 ecoboost piston on my keychain :getin:

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin

rndmnmbr posted:

IIRC the "cloth" was asbestos, so I hope that squirrel enjoyed it's mesothelioma.

IIRC Asbestos is harmless when ingested. It's the breathing it into the lungs that gets you.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


While I don't have a picture to go with this, I had a customer come in to night, chick in her 20's. Says she needs some oil to top up her car since she hasn't had it changed since june. I ask her if she just needs one quart and she says she has no idea since she doesn't know how to check her oil, but thinks it'll need like 3 quarts. So we start heading out so I can show her how to check it and tell her how much she's going to need and she mentions on the way that she also is going to need some ATF. I ask her what the problem is and she just says "its all hosed up". I tell her I'll show her how to check that as well. We go out and I show her how to check the oil and it looks reasonably heathy and is still in the cross hatched "good" section on the dipstick. I pull the dipstick for the tranny and am greeted by something that looks like oil. I figure it can't be, so I grab another employee and we both go out and look. It smells like oil, looks like oil and tastes like oil with 0 hint of atf to it. We inform her of this and she immediately grabs her phone, calls someone and just starts royally motherfucking the dude on the other end. I recommended her a couple shops and wished her the best of luck, because god knows what is happening in that poor transmission right now.

Nuevo
May 23, 2006

:eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop:
Fun Shoe

Elmnt80 posted:

I pull the dipstick for the tranny and am greeted by something that looks like oil. I figure it can't be, so I grab another employee and we both go out and look. It smells like oil, looks like oil and tastes like oil with 0 hint of atf to it. We inform her of this and she immediately grabs her phone, calls someone and just starts royally motherfucking the dude on the other end. I recommended her a couple shops and wished her the best of luck, because god knows what is happening in that poor transmission right now.

Oh man, this reads like a question on Yahoo Answers or some poo poo.


Q: I checked my oil but it was red so I poured oil in until it looked right but it overflowed a bit and now my car sounds real bad, did I break something?

A: :stare:

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

Powershift posted:

The water pump is driven off the timing belt though, so you can drive until the battery is dead and it won't mean an engine rebuilt if you do.

This is a fun game I used to play in my Ford Escort when it ate an alternator every year. I called it "hunt for red october" because if you turn off everything inside the car and pull up the e-brake one click to turn off the DRL headlights you can go a surprisingly long time with a freshly charged battery.

Hugh G. Rectum
Mar 1, 2011

I managed to go two weeks without an alternator in my '83 civic going to/from school every day. Just park it on hills and pop start it, the thing had barely anything electrical besides the ignition.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

Boat posted:

Oh man, this reads like a question on Yahoo Answers or some poo poo.


Q: I checked my oil but it was red so I poured oil in until it looked right but it overflowed a bit and now my car sounds real bad, did I break something?

A: :stare:

Why do we use atf instead of oil? Asking sincerely as someone who leaves all car stuff to qualified mechanics.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Additives / friction modifiers, and weight. ATF tends to be super low weight and has a bunch of poo poo added in to deal with clutch packs.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Motorcycle wet clutches are basically the same thing as an automatic transmission and a ton of us just run Rotella.

BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Jan 1, 2016

spookykid
Apr 28, 2006

I am an awkward fellow
after all
ATF has a bunch of detergents and deposit inhibitors added to it. Enough that it really wouldn't like rings and smooth bearings, and burns really easy in the presence of high heat, thus why failing trans fluid gets dark fluid pretty quick .

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

tater_salad posted:

Apparently mice like toyota wire covering my parents have lived in the country and had Hondas Subaru and toyotas, toyota wires got eaten by mice a few times, dealer confirmed they had this issue quite often. They tried traps in the car outside the csr, parking further away no wind, eventually sold it and got another Subaru no issues with mice.

Can confirm that rodents like Toyota wiring. Something chewed through several wires of the engine harness on my mother's Avalon awhile back, causing it to throw codes for both knock sensors.

The ABS light has been having random seizures ever since as well. I don't mean it'll pop on; it'll start flickering like a burned out fluorescent light that the ballast can't quite get to light... then suddenly light up, then go out, then light up really bright, and OH HEY IT'S ABS WARNING LIGHT RAVE TIME. Then goes back out for another few weeks (aside from coming on briefly at startup like it's supposed to).

No codes in the ABS controller, and it happened to do it once when I was driving in an empty parking lot, so I hammered the brakes - the ABS was definitely working.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 09:09 on Jan 1, 2016

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!
Early '70s Jeeps used actual whale squeezins' in the transfer case lube. Late-'70s-'80s used regular ATF. IIRC the whale-enhanced stuff for the OG QuadraTrac was $20/quart at the turn of the last century. I had an '84 that used regular ATF, but the guys on the forums with older ones were always complaining about the cost of fancy ATF+friction modifiers or deadstock whale-oil fluid recommended in the manual for their limited-slip center diffs.

Also there's a reason why Marvel Mystery Oil, what cleans the carbon off your valves &c., is bright red. It's ATF mixed with paint thinner and nail polish remover, more or less.

I assume the "high mileage"-branded engine oil and ATF just skimp on the detergents, so as to avoid washing out the years worth of crud that's holding the seals in place?

Speaking of seals going, my dad once had a work truck -- F250 with a dual-exhaust 351 HO -- that had a leaky rear main seal ... which pissed oil at the rate of a quart a week directly on the collectors/H-pipe. I could see him coming home from work from a mile away, from the cloud of smoke.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


On the subject of rodents and wring, a pack-rat once ate/trashed basically every bit of wire and harness insulation forward of the firewall in my dad's early 90s chevy pickup once while he was out of town for an extended with project. I guess thats what you get for barn parking. :v:

sirnollem
Apr 12, 2008

Delivery McGee posted:

Speaking of seals going, my dad once had a work truck -- F250 with a dual-exhaust 351 HO -- that had a leaky rear main seal ... which pissed oil at the rate of a quart a week directly on the collectors/H-pipe. I could see him coming home from work from a mile away, from the cloud of smoke.

That was the best part of getting gas in my old Ranger with the 2.9l that I was too lazy to replace the valve covers that were putting into the manifolds. The panicked looks when I pulled next to someone with smoke rolling from under the hood.

DethMarine21
Dec 4, 2008

Johnny Aztec posted:

My first car was a 1997 Oldmobile Achieva and when I went to replace the air filter there was a squirrels stash of acorns in there.

The same thing happened to us a few times on both a Camry and a 328i which were parked outside. No problems with the wiring getting eaten.. that we know about :ohdear:

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


You're not going to believe this, but an underbuilt bosch fuel pump has tanked yet another dodge diesel.

This time it's the 3.0 ecodiesel. Basically above about 26k psi/3500rpm, the HPFP will start eating itself leading to 3 different failure modes. The cheapest of which the pump just chews itself up sending little bits of metal throughout the the fuel system. $11k for pump, injectors, lines, all that fun stuff.

Alternatively, the fuel pump can seize, and it's gear driven off the left bank exhaust cam. and that gear is just pressed on. if the gear holds, it can stop the cam and mash exhaust valves into pistons. if the gear breaks loose it just makes the oil a little sparkly.

like the VP44 in the 24 valve 5.9s, it seems to be a "when" not "if" situation as well, especially in colder climates. And much like the VP44, the dodge solution is to replace it with the same faulty parts to get the truck to live long enough to get out of warranty.

Even better, it looks like the 5.0 cummins uses that same hpfp, only it's driven off the timing chain instead of the cam. It might work there, because the 5.0 is governed to 3400rpm, unlike the 3.0 which is goverened to 4,800rpm.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Powershift posted:

You're not going to believe this, but an underbuilt bosch fuel pump has tanked yet another dodge diesel.

This time it's the 3.0 ecodiesel. Basically above about 26k psi/3500rpm, the HPFP will start eating itself leading to 3 different failure modes. The cheapest of which the pump just chews itself up sending little bits of metal throughout the the fuel system. $11k for pump, injectors, lines, all that fun stuff.

Alternatively, the fuel pump can seize, and it's gear driven off the left bank exhaust cam. and that gear is just pressed on. if the gear holds, it can stop the cam and mash exhaust valves into pistons. if the gear breaks loose it just makes the oil a little sparkly.

like the VP44 in the 24 valve 5.9s, it seems to be a "when" not "if" situation as well, especially in colder climates. And much like the VP44, the dodge solution is to replace it with the same faulty parts to get the truck to live long enough to get out of warranty.

Even better, it looks like the 5.0 cummins uses that same hpfp, only it's driven off the timing chain instead of the cam. It might work there, because the 5.0 is governed to 3400rpm, unlike the 3.0 which is goverened to 4,800rpm.

Considering Bosch is the primary injection pump provider for multiple heavy and medium duty diesels, what the hell is happened to these designs that is causing such premature failure?

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8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
First scenario sounds like what my Audi did. loving cam follower

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