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Nihilarian
Oct 2, 2013


I regret picking the Buster Sword because I thought those weapons were character locked and giving Cloud a bigger stick seemed the best option. I already have a 5 star sword so other weapons would have been more useful.

With the new year gun and a 4 star Axe I got from a 5 mythril draw yesterday, I'm getting a bit more variety at least. Hopefully I'll be able to get the Air Knife and Aevis Killer before the event is up. And maybe a good magic stick, I could use a good one.

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goldjas
Feb 22, 2009

I HATE ALL FORMS OF FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT. I HATE BEAUTY. I AM GOLDJAS.
Any tips on Ultimate Exdeath? I feel like I should be able to best him (I've beaten Omega and most of the 120 bosses in recent memory) but he seems to have way to much health and do way to much damage, especially after I get him below half health, for me to actually win. Maybe the problem is the fact that I just have basically no FF5 synergy and I can't come up with enough damage to kill him fast enough due to that fact?

Grozz Nuy
Feb 21, 2008

Welcome to Moonside.

Wecomel to Soonmide.

Moonwel ot cosidme.
Alright, I finally cleared Melusine and I'm toying with whether to go after Ultimate Exdeath since I'm not really totally endgame-d out, I only just started clearing up through +++ pretty recently. But I beat Omega so I figure it's worth a shot. I have Kotetsu for Gilgamesh so I definitely want to bring him and Retaliate, although it sounds like there's no real point in bringing Draw Fire since most of Exdeath's attacks are either magical, multi-target, or both. Here's the setup I was planning on doing, if anybody had advice on anything obvious I'm missing before I spend the 60 stamina that would be great:

Lv. 58 Gilgamesh (High Scorer) Armor Break/Retaliate
Lv. 57 Bartz (SOLDIER Strike) Steal Power/Blizzara Strike
Lv. 64 Terra (Vow of Vengeance) Thundaja/Firaja
Lv. 60 Eiko (Mako Might) Protectga/Carbuncle (I have Golem's Flute for Hastega and more healing, and it seems like having party-wide reflect is very important for the second half of the fight)
Lv. 64 Lenna (Oath of Tycoon) Curaga/Shellga

Then a wall RW for more mitigation. I don't have Boon or a wall SB myself so that kind of limits my options. I could always hold off until after Sunday so I can finish grinding Tyro to 65 and try to get Dr. Mog's Teachings to drop for Lenna so I can get a Regen up right away as well.

Zone of Danger
Apr 21, 2010
Buster Sword isn't that bad of a pick for someone just starting out. There are better weapons, but you're unlikely to have access to them. FF7 synergy is valuable and you'd have to be an extreme whale or spend the lion's share of your mythril on FF7 event banners to not have any use for it whatsoever.

Kawalimus posted:

Now a question. I'm getting closer and closer to clearing all the classic dungeons and I'm starting to wonder. Does Mythril eventually become much, much harder to acquire? I imagine it has to. Kind of makes me wonder how I should spend this on these banners or if I should start stockpiling it and trying for the real real good stuff when it becomes available. I'm not sure.

You get a pretty steady flow from events/login bonuses, but yeah it does start to slow down a fair bit once you've exhausted the story content. From a practical POV it's probably best to spend Mythril on banners for realms you have weak synergy on, until you're reasonably comfortable everywhere and can stand to wait for better combination banners or banners with blanket great relics.

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Kawalimus posted:

Now a question. I'm getting closer and closer to clearing all the classic dungeons and I'm starting to wonder. Does Mythril eventually become much, much harder to acquire? I imagine it has to. Kind of makes me wonder how I should spend this on these banners or if I should start stockpiling it and trying for the real real good stuff when it becomes available. I'm not sure.

Define "Harder". I'm about capped out - which is to say, all I have left to do is the eight elites from this latest Dungeon Update and I'll be out of dungeons - and I still get on average enough for two single pulls (so 10 mythril) a week just on daily logins, plus another 10 mythril per event. It's not unheard of to be able to do a full 11-pull once a month, even once your wellspring has run dry. Events will never stop coming as long as the game is alive, after all.

e:f;b

Kawalimus
Jan 17, 2008

Better Living Through Birding And Pessimism
Well that's definitely more of a trickle than I get now. Cause with logins and such fpr me right now you get like 10 a day, and I still have yet to master a lot of the early daily dungeons. And I have more or less the entirety of the "elite" tree to go. "Slower" is probably better than harder to describe it. But yeah I can get enough for an 11-pull in a week right now. So I will probably use it wisely in realms I don't have synergy on as of yet. But I have a ways to go before that becomes an issue. I'm deciding whether I should do another 11-pull in the ff5 banners before I start stockpiling.

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Kawalimus posted:

I'm deciding whether I should do another 11-pull in the ff5 banners before I start stockpiling.

There's three questions you should ask yourself. The first one is, of course, "Do I want to try to whale out for my favorite character?" Because hey, this game is about using who you want, even if they suck. Unless your favorite is a blue mage of some sort, in which case I've got bad news for you.

The second and third questions are "do I need coverage for this synergy?" and "how much trouble will I have without synergy here?" FF5 is both one of the more populous realms dungeon-wise and one of the harder ones (It and FF3 both have problems with bosses having disproportionately high HP, leading to sloggish battles), so if you need more FF5 synergy, then by all means, this is the best time to do it until we get the Exdeath event. As a counterexample, I'd hesitate to recommend spending a lot of mythril on the Minwu event coming in the far, far off future, because FF2's dungeons aren't that hard (comparatively) even in elite, and we're not going to be getting any new ones, period.

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!
Whew, mastered Ultimate Exdeath. Took a few S/Ls and a lot of luck, but I got there. The Omega Badge and Cursed ring seem like some of the best 5* accessories for a while; a lot of stuff after this seems to be Moderate Fire Resistance or some such.

Valle
Apr 16, 2004

Telling customers how to solve world problems since 2001

k-spar posted:

So I have an option for a "dr. Mogs beginner's choice draw" with choose 1 unique soul break equipment. Should I do that now or wait for a better time? And what should I choose?

As the name implies, it really is a beginner's banner. What I mean by this is that the increased drop rate 5* items with SB's are for Tyro, Rydia, Kain and Wakka, all of which will be some of the first characters you unlock. Basically, drawing on this banner gives you a good shot at making your starting characters more powerful/useful.

As for the free pick at the end...that's more difficult. But you can hold off on actually picking that until later, so just do the draw and come back to the free pick later on.

Kawalimus
Jan 17, 2008

Better Living Through Birding And Pessimism

KataraniSword posted:

There's three questions you should ask yourself. The first one is, of course, "Do I want to try to whale out for my favorite character?" Because hey, this game is about using who you want, even if they suck. Unless your favorite is a blue mage of some sort, in which case I've got bad news for you.

The second and third questions are "do I need coverage for this synergy?" and "how much trouble will I have without synergy here?" FF5 is both one of the more populous realms dungeon-wise and one of the harder ones (It and FF3 both have problems with bosses having disproportionately high HP, leading to sloggish battles), so if you need more FF5 synergy, then by all means, this is the best time to do it until we get the Exdeath event. As a counterexample, I'd hesitate to recommend spending a lot of mythril on the Minwu event coming in the far, far off future, because FF2's dungeons aren't that hard (comparatively) even in elite, and we're not going to be getting any new ones, period.

Yeah that's the mental state I'm starting to get into. I think I will gather mythril and pull on these ff5 realms before I start stockpiling because that was probably my fav ff game and like you said it's a populous and difficult realm. And I totally see why not to put a lot of mythril into stuff like ff1 and 2. I want either the air blade or the Faris bow. Of course the weapons I got were Icebrand(though this is solid, just not a soul break thing and doesn't let Faris attack from back row) and Thor Hammer. Krile rod wouldn't be bad either. So I'm gonna gather mythril til the end of this banner then do 11 pulls then start stockpiling.

Just wish I was in position to do the rest of the ff5 event now, but I only just barely got by Carbuncle on the last one to get Faris' crystal.

My party is Tyro, Auron, Rydia(got her ice whip on an early pull), Cloud, and Faris. And I have them all above 50 now.

Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Jan 2, 2016

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


Can't you sap Ultimate Exdeath? Because I decided to bring a Blade Wing RW with me and Sap seems to eat away his HP real easy? I just gonna get Carbuncle up before <50%.

EDIT: MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR DUDES FULLY HEALED BEFORE YOU CARBUNCLE. I forgot and had to suffer just a bit longer through Normal Exdeath.

Thankfully he killed himself before Doom on Selphie finished. :v:

EDIT 2: Now... should I roll with the casters on the boss rush? Or go back to a much more sensible party that's possibly pumped with Mythril revives since its a boss rush.

widespread fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jan 2, 2016

Charles Bukowski
Aug 26, 2003

Taskmaster 2023 Second Place Winner

Grimey Drawer
Ultimate Exdeath has no elemental or status weaknesses.

Phinneus Periwinkle
Jan 17, 2010

KataraniSword posted:

There's three questions you should ask yourself. The first one is, of course, "Do I want to try to whale out for my favorite character?" Because hey, this game is about using who you want, even if they suck. Unless your favorite is a blue mage of some sort, in which case I've got bad news for you.

Quistis' SSB would like a word with you. You are going to look mighty silly in about 6 or 7 months.

Kawalimus
Jan 17, 2008

Better Living Through Birding And Pessimism
Oh drat it of course I use a memory crystal node to get Auron above 50 a couple days ago and now his memory crystal appears right here in this new event!! But I had to because I got Auron's dragon fang blade so he became a fixture in my party instead of Cyan who I was using before. He's pretty cool. But god drat it of course this happens.

the Orb of Zot
Jun 25, 2013

Apport: the Orb of Zot
The orb shrieks as your magic touches it!
Yoink! You pull the item towards yourself.
You see here the Orb of Zot.
100 gem pull was Auron's 5* katana. Well, guess I'm using him this event then!

EDIT: Well, probably not the Ultimate fight; I'll probably just dump magic into that until it dies

the Orb of Zot fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Jan 2, 2016

Shock Trooper
Oct 24, 2006

TERROR BALTIMORE
100-gem pull got me.... Genji Helm. Not sure why I even spent the dollar, considering I have plenty of FFX synergy (but I get something that's not FFX)

Zurai posted:

To be fair, that's technically still true. Record Keeper was first released in September of 2014.

Also, they probably didn't tell the guy the message would get translated into English and distributed on the Global client as well (the exact same messages are on the JP client).

I know. Hence my whole "outside of Japan" comment....

Kawalimus posted:

Oh drat it of course I use a memory crystal node to get Auron above 50 a couple days ago and now his memory crystal appears right here in this new event!! But I had to because I got Auron's dragon fang blade so he became a fixture in my party instead of Cyan who I was using before. He's pretty cool. But god drat it of course this happens.

Ouch. At least a couple times in this thread there was a link to a list of how long it would be until each character's MC's would be available again after Vale of Memories, guess you missed that :(

Shock Trooper fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Jan 2, 2016

pksage
Jul 2, 2009

You are an experience!
Make sure you're a good experience.
Attack Reels ball in my 100 gem! :swoon: I think this is the only character SB relic I've pulled outside of Lucky Draw. Maybe the second. Also balls are actually usable by more than two characters, unlike armguns/books/gambling/hairpins!

Kawalimus
Jan 17, 2008

Better Living Through Birding And Pessimism

Shock Trooper posted:



Ouch. At least a couple times in this thread there was a link to a list of how long it would be until each character's MC's would be available again after Vale of Memories, guess you missed that :(

I saw it but the thing was a little behind and I didn't pick up on that this was RIGHT around the corner. I don't really even regret it though--auron has been a good char for me and like I said I had one of his unique soul breaks. But I only have about two levels to show for it lol. In the long run if I'm diligent with the game I imagine it will be negligible but that's classic me.

I misread it or something maybe but I thought Auron would be in like 2 months.

Valle
Apr 16, 2004

Telling customers how to solve world problems since 2001

Kawalimus posted:

Oh drat it of course I use a memory crystal node to get Auron above 50 a couple days ago and now his memory crystal appears right here in this new event!! But I had to because I got Auron's dragon fang blade so he became a fixture in my party instead of Cyan who I was using before. He's pretty cool. But god drat it of course this happens.

Shock Trooper posted:

Ouch. At least a couple times in this thread there was a link to a list of how long it would be until each character's MC's would be available again after Vale of Memories, guess you missed that :(

Edit: Guess you should've read the list more carefully when I linked it, oh well.

In other news, the dollar pull got me Rikku's Buster Claw. Event over!

Kawalimus
Jan 17, 2008

Better Living Through Birding And Pessimism

Valle posted:

Edit: Guess you should've read the list more carefully when I linked it, oh well.

In other news, the dollar pull got me Rikku's Buster Claw. Event over!

lol I tend to read things too fast.

But yeah like I said it's not a big deal and since I haven't had too too many "pulls" yet a lot of the characters I use are going to be dependent on which weapons come in when I do the pulls. So two of the others wound up being Eiko and Vivi, the other one was Paladin Cecil just because some people said he was a good character. But other than them I really have no idea what other characters I'll even wind up leveling.

Niton
Oct 21, 2010

Your Lord and Savior has finally arrived!

..got any kibble?

pksage posted:

Attack Reels ball in my 100 gem! :swoon: I think this is the only character SB relic I've pulled outside of Lucky Draw. Maybe the second. Also balls are actually usable by more than two characters, unlike armguns/books/gambling/hairpins!

I got attack reels too! Not from 100 gem, though, from 15 mythril. It seems pretty good considering beforehand I was trying to figure out who to use as my Support character :shobon:

AweStriker
Oct 6, 2014

Thread, I'd like help making a decision.

I'd like to pull on this event since I'm strongly lacking in X synergy, but I'm not sure which banner to do it on.

My current stock of 5* relics looks like this:



(Orange background = unique SB equipment, blue background = shared SB equipment, white background = no SB equipment)
(Purple text = magic/resistance/mind item, red text = attack/defense item, green text = balanced between the two)

Mercury Crusader
Apr 20, 2005

You know they say that all demons are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Pyro Jack and you can see that statement is not true, hee-ho!
100 gem pull got me a FFVII Rune Armlet thing I already had maxed out. Oh well, I have enough X synergy for the time being, so I guess I'll save my mithril for the upcoming IV event in which I don't have much synergy.

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom

Welp. My obligatory 100 gem pull gave me a Warrior's Bracer. I now have the poor man's trifecta: Warrior's Bracer (Protectga), Dragon Armlet (Shellga), and Mystery Veil (Medica). Maybe some day I'll get real walls and heals but I'm set for now at least.

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


No no, Gackt-cha. It's fine. I just... I just have lousy luck is all.

YOU SON OF A BITCH GIMME SOMETHING GOOD GOD DAMMIT I DROPPED MY WELFARE MYTHRILS ON THIS gently caress

Beasteh
Feb 12, 2012

I'M QUESTIONING MY EXISTENCE AND THIS IDIOT JUST WANTS TO PEE OFF A WALL

Is Rikku needed for the bonus battles? I have no decent synergy weapon to give her and her ability selection is kind of awkward (celerity 4 tho so there is that).

Subbz
Nov 4, 2008
Mage's Staff from 100gem. Good I guess, but I recently pulled a Magistral Rod.

Brian Fellows
May 29, 2003
I'm Brian Fellows

YoshiOfYellow posted:

Welp. My obligatory 100 gem pull gave me a Warrior's Bracer. I now have the poor man's trifecta: Warrior's Bracer (Protectga), Dragon Armlet (Shellga), and Mystery Veil (Medica). Maybe some day I'll get real walls and heals but I'm set for now at least.

You're missing the Hastega homie.

KnoxZone
Jan 27, 2007

If I die before I Wake, I pray the Lord my soul to take.

Beasteh posted:

Is Rikku needed for the bonus battles? I have no decent synergy weapon to give her and her ability selection is kind of awkward (celerity 4 tho so there is that).

+, ++, and +++. Thankfully the non-Ultimate bonus battles all look really easy (the +++ is that stupid Defender that can be berserked/reflected).

ETB
Nov 8, 2009

Yeah, I'm that guy.
Does Runic work against Blast Punch? It is effectively a gravity spell, ja?

Armitage
Aug 16, 2005

"Mathman's not here." "Oh? Where is he?" "He's in the Mathroom."
I just talked myself out of spending 100 gems on this banner despite seeing all the luck you guys have had with this one. Too many of the same 3* items lately.

AweStriker
Oct 6, 2014

Armitage posted:

I just talked myself out of spending 100 gems on this banner despite seeing all the luck you guys have had with this one. Too many of the same 3* items lately.

I got junk (one of the FFXII spears), and most people don't post junk gem pulls anyway.

EscortMission
Mar 4, 2009

Come with me
if you want to live.
I got junk but it was a FF3 Knight Armor that I needed to complete a Knight Armor 3++. Now I have full welfare 5* coverage on FF3, which is what I was clearing before the event went live! :3:

Welp thats my story I hope you enjoyed it.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
So far I've spent 75 mythril (25 for a one-time half-price pull with focus on Summoner specials and 50 on the 'Mog's Beginner Selection' 11+1 pull) and I managed to get one of Rydia's special weapons (the whip that lets her summon the Mist Dragon) which is awesome. I also got Krile's 5-star staff with the summon special ability. And Vivi's black robe.

Too bad I don't have Krile yet, or I could switch between her and Rydia to get the 4/5 synchro.

flowinprose
Sep 11, 2001

Where were you? .... when they built that ladder to heaven...

AweStriker posted:

I got junk (one of the FFXII spears), and most people don't post junk gem pulls anyway.

Yeah, you'll hear about bad 11-pulls because it is so noticeable and relatively rare if you get like a single 4-star and ten 3-stars for example... but for single 100-gem pulls you won't hear people posting about getting junk unless someone is keeping track of it over the long term (like I think Schwartzcough was doing for a while with his absurdly long drought).

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




One last 11 pull, 3 4*'s and the rest 3*, I'm out. No money spent, no defensive sb's pulled, a very crap rate for 5* in general. Fun game for what it is, but the progression gear-wise is beyond frustrating.

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!

AweStriker posted:

Thread, I'd like help making a decision.

I'd like to pull on this event since I'm strongly lacking in X synergy, but I'm not sure which banner to do it on.

My current stock of 5* relics looks like this:



(Orange background = unique SB equipment, blue background = shared SB equipment, white background = no SB equipment)
(Purple text = magic/resistance/mind item, red text = attack/defense item, green text = balanced between the two)

You've already got a really good spread of equipment, and I am very jealous. The banners are pretty balanced, honestly; for you I'd guess that the Guardian Targe on the second banner is the more universally useful SB. You've already got a couple 5* fists. *shrug*

I lack X weapons as well (three 5* armors though...), but these banners are too underwhelming for me to draw on.

silvergoose posted:

One last 11 pull, 3 4*'s and the rest 3*, I'm out. No money spent, no defensive sb's pulled, a very crap rate for 5* in general. Fun game for what it is, but the progression gear-wise is beyond frustrating.

Yeah, sorry to hear your frustration. If it's any consolation, you don't really need defensive SBs until the most recent hardest of hard content. Not sure how long you've been at it, though.

Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Phinneus Periwinkle posted:

Quistis' SSB would like a word with you. You are going to look mighty silly in about 6 or 7 months.

Quistis's SSB really isn't as big as it's hyped up to be. Yeah, it's Boon+, but it's on a much worse character. I'd rather bring Sazh with Boon than Quistis with Mighty Guard.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

Zurai posted:

Quistis's SSB really isn't as big as it's hyped up to be. Yeah, it's Boon+, but it's on a much worse character. I'd rather bring Sazh with Boon than Quistis with Mighty Guard.

It's worth noting that if you plan on using Ramza, you might as well have Mighty Guard Quistis over Boon Sazh anyway since Ramza can tote Full Break.

Quistis isn't great though, I'll agree. She really wants a STR boost to compete with Vaan or a MAG boost to compete with Terra. Even then she's still struggling to find a good niche without the Red Scorpion.

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KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Phinneus Periwinkle posted:

Quistis' SSB would like a word with you. You are going to look mighty silly in about 6 or 7 months.

Quistis is the exception that makes the rule, since all of her SBs are her blue magic, and even Maser Eye is pretty decent. Even then, she's kind of like a less adapable Tyro - decent at a lot of things but not really excelling at any of them.

Quina is okay on virtue of being able to Full Break and use spears, but that means s/he's just a less flexible Vaan, really. Even Strago is sort of okay in that "anybody with 4* Black Magic can be good if you put love into them" way.

It's mostly Kimahri that's loving awful.

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