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The real answer is that continuity doesn't matter. There are shows where it absolutely does matter (any serial series, like Breaking Bad), and some where it absolutely does not (something like Robot Chicken). The Simpsons takes a moderate track, adapting continuity when convenient but then resetting the scale when it wants to. So for example, the continuity of Flanders becoming a widower and then marrying Bart's teacher (and then becoming a widower again) is preserved, but various episodes that should have real life consequences are not.
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Hodgepodge posted:Skipped a few pages of more Family Guy chat to point out that Rick and Morty has basically eclipsed it in it own genre, and owns. The creator of Rick and Morty was sued by Bill Cosby.  Rick & Morty wins.
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I was the age of Bart, when The Simpsons first aired. Someday I will be the age of Marge. This makes me feel weird.
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ToastyPotato posted:I wouldn't be surprised if KOTH started off as a live action idea (since he had success with Office Space already) but that it ended up being animated because Beavis and Butthead were at peak popularity and the only way he was getting a show greenlit was if it was something that looked vaguely like it. So you grab a well known character/voice from B&B and kind just reuse it for a new show. Maybe it was also cheaper, but I am not sure since I also hear animation can be very pricey. "Why is Obama spying on Republican Congressmen and our greatest allies in Israel?" That one would have been easy even if i hadn't already seen Fox News lose their poo poo over it it the other day right before everyone bailed for New Year's.
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STAC Goat posted:"Why is Obama spying on Republican Congressmen and our greatest allies in Israel?" Yeah the party that gave the NSA unlimited spying power is shocked, shocked they used it to actually spy on people. The expected answer.
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If J. E. Hoover was still alive, I'd say the FBI is pol pot compared to the actions of the NSA since 9/11.
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Bast Relief posted:I was the age of Bart, when The Simpsons first aired. Someday I will be the age of Marge. This makes me feel weird. I'm only about five months older than the show itself. I have experienced an entire childhood, adolescence, and young adulthood while Bart and Lisa stayed under the age of ten.
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I got really sad when I realized I am homers age, but I;m nowhere near as successful as he is (in that he has a house and 2 cars and such).
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Bast Relief posted:I was the age of Bart, when The Simpsons first aired. Someday I will be the age of Marge. This makes me feel weird. Simpsons came out in 1989, Bart is 10, Marge is 34 apparently so congratulations you're already older than her!
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twistedmentat posted:I got really sad when I realized I am homers age, but I;m nowhere near as successful as he is (in that he has a house and 2 cars and such). You and Frank Grimes have so much to discuss.
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twistedmentat posted:I got really sad when I realized I am homers age, but I;m nowhere near as successful as he is (in that he has a house and 2 cars and such). That's because the Simpsons came from an era where a man who could support a house, two cars, three kids, and a stay-at-home wife with a middle management job that only required a bachelor's degree (or like 7/10ths of a BSc, in Homer's case) was still a thing. It was on it's way out the door very slowly at that point in time, but it was still a vestige of the norm of the 60s, 70s, and early 80s. If the Simpsons reflected today's economic environment, Homer and Marge would both have jobs, Maggie wouldn't exist (nor would Lisa, probably), and they'd also probably be living in Grandpa Simpson's house (who would also still be working in some capacity).
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Mr. Burns fought in World War I.
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The true American family has always been Hank Hill's. Also I'll actually chuckle watching it.
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swampland posted:Simpsons came out in 1989, Bart is 10, Marge is 34 apparently so congratulations you're already older than her! Ha! My childhood perception of her was as much older. When I was a kid, there was just other kids, teenagers, and everyone else was +40s or +70s.
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twistedmentat posted:The scary thing is the story was about a suburban middle class family that was placed on a watch list because they visited a gardening store, and a cop wrote down their plates. Then they went through their garbage and found traces of THC in it, and what I thought were processed plant material, which gave them probable cause.
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twistedmentat posted:The best comment was someone saying "Obama wants to take our guns so this can happy every day", becuase when you've done nothing wrong and the SWAT team descends on you the best thing to do is to open fire on them. Because the former Iraq vets who are over armed for domestic duty will react so well to that.
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twistedmentat posted:The best comment was someone saying "Obama wants to take our guns so this can happy every day", becuase when you've done nothing wrong and the SWAT team descends on you the best thing to do is to open fire on them. Speaking of this, I wonder how they'll report Obama's impending executive order on guns? I'm expecting a full on shitstorm and a huge spike in gun purchases.
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Nonsense posted:The true American family has always been Hank Hill's. Also I'll actually chuckle watching it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKmoze-hlXU There's so many good scenes in that show.
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I wonder if you invested heavily in Gun company stocks the day Obama took office, how well you'd have made out. Edit: I looked up 'Smith and Wesson' and you'd have made a fortune. It's stock values increased almost 1000% since his first inauguration. Deptfordx fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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Ugh, local talk radio station has been pretty much completely converted into conservative political radio. It used to be conservative stuff in the middle of the day, but sports, local news, and other talk the rest of the day. A couple months ago the regular talk shows started taking political slants every day, which at least felt topical. Then even the sports hosts started awkwardly inserting politics into everything. poo poo, the news had always been unslanted with dry statements like "President Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law today." Now they are slightly colorful. When the spending bill passed the house the report was along the lines of "Paul Ryan turned his back on conservatives and pushed a spending bill leaving Obamacare and Planned Parenthood funded and the southern border fence unfunded, disappointing many Americans." Not nearly as bad as the other changes, but everything still feels like it gets slanted. Lately most of the hosts have been shuffled around and replaced with much more political hosts, or at least has added political voices to the shows. The worst part is that one of the shows has a guy who plays the part of a liberal, but is obviously instructed to concede every single point immediately and spit straw-men. One day the "liberal" host "admitted" that Obama was likely a closet Muslim or "at least supports Muslims more than Christians". This sucks because I actually like talk radio, but might have to drop it because someone has decided to make it so ham-fistedly political lately. I keep hoping it was just some program director and/or hosts on vacation, but even when a few of the ones we definitely were on vacation returned, their shows were still turned into lovely conservative stuff. I'm gonna have to listen to something else, which sucks cause I am a stubborn idiot who doesn't want to change my station. Plus, all the local sports play through that station. I never minded the political stuff before, I even enjoyed having an idea what the right wing was frothing over at any given time, but I can't stand the idea of hearing it every single time I drive. Only bright side is giggling every time they complain about the "liberal media" considering their current situation. Is this a normal thing during election years and I just never noticed before?
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computer parts posted:The real answer is that continuity doesn't matter. There are shows where it absolutely does matter (any serial series, like Breaking Bad), and some where it absolutely does not (something like Robot Chicken). The Simpsons takes a moderate track, adapting continuity when convenient but then resetting the scale when it wants to. This is pretty much how every show, comedy or not, worked in 1989 too, and while the genre changed, Simpsons hasn't. nine-gear crow posted:That's because the Simpsons came from an era where a man who could support a house, two cars, three kids, and a stay-at-home wife with a middle management job that only required a bachelor's degree (or like 7/10ths of a BSc, in Homer's case) was still a thing. It was on it's way out the door very slowly at that point in time, but it was still a vestige of the norm of the 60s, 70s, and early 80s. This has made the social media rounds, but it's not really true. The old sitcoms Simpsons started off building parodies of had the much-mocked common property of people living way beyond the means you'd expect from their income, even when they had episodes about money problems or something. It wasn't reflective of reality in 1989, it was reflective of TV's long-established unreality. I suppose a lot of old conservatives and young liberals both believe it was once true though, and it makes sense TV would contribute.
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wilderthanmild posted:Is this a normal thing during election years and I just never noticed before? Been normal since Fox News started up and invented the act. Hannity and Colmes for example. But it's ramping up all the time since the President turned out to be a black man and not a 0.01% insider, and will continue to be until the President has a white penis and announces free guns to newborn whites only at a Jesus Against Black Muslim Poor People rally.
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wilderthanmild posted:Is this a normal thing during election years and I just never noticed before? They're following the money, just like FoxNews. http://spectator.org/articles/55425/am-radio-signing quote:A perusal of the April ratings for the nation’s biggest media markets shows that just 11 percent of the stations populating the top 10 reside on the AM band. In Washington, D.C., for example, the top-rated AM station ranks 20th among all stations. AM’s dwindling appeal to young people helps explain its dwindling overall ratings. Bill Heywood lost his last radio job by aging himself out of the coveted listening demographic. But the desired demographic and the one actually listening remain far apart. Calcified formats, sonic limitations, and automated programs, more so than any geriatric host, has aged AM out of the demographic targeted by advertisers. More than three-fourths of AM listeners exceed 45 years of age. Surely stages of life—when young people reach 45 they too will inevitably show more interest in the talk and news that dominate the AM band—explain the AM/FM generation gap. That and repeal of the Fairness Doctrine in the late 80's. Talk has been a huge revenue source ever since, you don't pay royalties when there's no music being played. Stations like Pacifica show that there isn't really any money in liberal talk, especially when the Dems are in control of the Presidency, but the right loves to hear that stuff and it seems to only be getting more common on that front. It also helps that the "MSM" stopped calling out any abject lies from either side and is obsessed with giving obviously untrue perspectives a fair shake. It's like we have a new version of the Fairness Doctrine for infowarriors.
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People are turning 45 every day yet ratings are still dropping, I hope they're not actually counting on young people getting old saving them Maybe if literally every single one of their ads weren't a transparent scam or, worst of all, wasn't the host pitching a transparent scam they wouldn't be losing so many ears among informed people
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Sir Tonk posted:They're following the money, just like FoxNews. The other issue is that it's more profitable to spread sensationalist bullshit than anything else. Fear mongering is the thing that's most likely to get people to tune in which is why every news outlet is looking for the next potential catastrophe. This is part of why Fox News likes the  OBLAMMO IS TRYING TO DESTROY EVERYTHING YOU CARE ABOUT line so much. It gets people to watch.The media also figured out little weasel words that let them say whatever they want. "Some people are saying..." has become a notorious phrase specifically because "some people" could be Bob and Carol talking at the water cooler. "Somebody said that..." is a factual statement as long as somebody did, in fact, say what came next.
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Epic High Five posted:People are turning 45 every day yet ratings are still dropping, I hope they're not actually counting on young people getting old saving them I mean, do they really think that younger people today, who apparently have no interest in listening to AM talk radio, will suddenly, on their 45th birthday, be compelled to listen? If it is in decline now, then that is pretty much it.
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Deptfordx posted:I wonder if you invested heavily in Gun company stocks the day Obama took office, how well you'd have made out. Conversely, how do gun stocks manage when a Republican takes office? And what other stocks tend to dip or jump when people of whatever party get elected? Not that I can actually invest in US stocks all that easily.
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evilmiera posted:Conversely, how do gun stocks manage when a Republican takes office? And what other stocks tend to dip or jump when people of whatever party get elected? Not that I can actually invest in US stocks all that easily. Here is Smith & Wesson:  The peak is around October 2007. The bottoming out is around Inauguration Day, 2009. Most Firearms manufacturers seem to be privately owned. computer parts fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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So what I'm seeing here is that the global financial crisis hosed them up pretty hard. When everybody was spending, spending, spending and Bush was rattling his saber they did well. Then the economy shat itself and they fared poorly too. Then as soon as Obama got his second term gun sales shot through the roof. It looks like his first term was "meh" but soon as he got reelected people started to stockpile guns.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:So what I'm seeing here is that the global financial crisis hosed them up pretty hard. When everybody was spending, spending, spending and Bush was rattling his saber they did well. Then the economy shat itself and they fared poorly too. What's interesting is that the first term of Obama is when the proportion of gun owners to the wider population grew for the first time since the 70s (barring a few random years in the 80s and 90s), but the second term showed massive sales despite actual gun ownership falling again. If I just get 400 guns, THEN Obama can't grab them! - hundreds of thousands of people, apparently
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Epic High Five posted:People are turning 45 every day yet ratings are still dropping, I hope they're not actually counting on young people getting old saving them This is the biggest problem Pacifica has been facing the past decade or so. The Houston station, specifically, has been extremely bad at reaching anyone that wasn't alive for Woodstock. The station management seems actively hostile to allowing anyone under thirty in the station and has canceled just about every show that targets them. They've been targeting the same boomers for donations every quarter and the number is going down every year as more of them end up on fixed incomes. With podcasts and streaming there's been a chance to target people that don't use AM/FM in their cars anymore, but Pacifica hasn't been nearly as good as NPR/APM/PRI has been with this and it's killing them.
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Sir Tonk posted:This is the biggest problem Pacifica has been facing the past decade or so. The Houston station, specifically, has been extremely bad at reaching anyone that wasn't alive for Woodstock. The station management seems actively hostile to allowing anyone under thirty in the station and has canceled just about every show that targets them. They've been targeting the same boomers for donations every quarter and the number is going down every year as more of them end up on fixed incomes. For everybody business that says "hey guys the world is different now, we need to change" there is always another that says "gently caress change, the problem is the world, not us."
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I thought Pacifica's major problem was they let a bunch of people pushing bullshit "alternative medicine" stuff into their broadcasting schedule, and that turns off most people with half a brain from wanting to stick around and listen to other stuff? And also just a bunch of people doing shows that are plugs for various other scammy things, the equivalent of if like Glenn Beck was just directly hawking scammy gold companies throughout a radio show instead of during sponsor time.
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I'm so glad San Antonio has a jazz radio station and I can drift off into full communism and drooling delusion.
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Meanwhile, in Texas http://conservativetribune.com/armed-gangs-black-panthers/ (the article is a month old, but Texas recently enacted open carry so it's coming up again) quote:The New Black Panther Party has been suspiciously silent since their unfortunate part in the Ferguson debacle. Thankfully, for those of you following the zany antics of Eric Holder’s favorite group of militants, they’ve popped up again. 
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My friend works for the Republican Party and got to meet Newt Gingrich a couple of years ago. I asked him afterwards what he thought of him and all he could say was "He had the sweatiest and the most limp handshake he had ever felt." He was grossed out greatly.
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Sir Tonk posted:Meanwhile, in Texas Can't wait for the NRA to make a statement on this.
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fishmech posted:I thought Pacifica's major problem was they let a bunch of people pushing bullshit "alternative medicine" stuff into their broadcasting schedule, and that turns off most people with half a brain from wanting to stick around and listen to other stuff? And also just a bunch of people doing shows that are plugs for various other scammy things, the equivalent of if like Glenn Beck was just directly hawking scammy gold companies throughout a radio show instead of during sponsor time. I heard this has been an issue with the west coast stations, although there were a couple of individual shows in Houston doing this. At least one of them is no longer on the air, as of the last time I was up there. The infowars crowd was also trying to get airtime, but noone at KPFT likes them so they've been pushed out consistently. It'd probably be a bigger problem if the station was in Austin, Jones was all over the public stations up there before he got banned from them all for being himself (and getting his rear end kicked in the process) Bizarro Kanyon posted:My friend works for the Republican Party and got to meet Newt Gingrich a couple of years ago. I asked him afterwards what he thought of him and all he could say was "He had the sweatiest and the most limp handshake he had ever felt." He was grossed out greatly. You don't know gross, the stories about Gingrich's time in Houston for the GOP convention in 1992 are severely hosed up.
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CommieGIR posted:Can't wait for the NRA to make a statement on this. I like how white people with guns are stalwart, patriotic defenders of freedom while black people with guns are menacing terrorists that want to take over. I actually don't know a ton about the NRA. Is it almost entirely full of white people?
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