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Cartoon posted:I like the fact that these Neanderthals can't fathom that the strategy of burying this is completely undone by their outraged declarations of unfairness. Logic gets thrown out the window when you're a seething Abbott supporter. The intent of any manufactured outrage seems purely to paint Turnbull as reactionary and heavy handed toward supporters of the former PM. Not at all like that fair minded Abbott.
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Graic Gabtar posted:If they are thinking of something like FATCA for say the UK and the US I'm going to laugh so hard I'll do myself an injury. Would other countries bother signing up if we did something like that? I can imagine nations being a bit unwilling to ignore a US or UK request to do stuff like that because those two actually have some clout on the world stage, but who would give a gently caress what a little tinpot state like us wants?
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# ? Jan 2, 2016 05:27 |
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Thread favourite Chris Kenny is here to explain why it is not a big deal: If the incident was so innocent, then why have they held back the details (unless it's for legal reasons)? You'd think that if the government were being proactive about (even minor) misconduct that they would be happy to publicise it. Yet from the way they are talking about it, it seems like they just want the whole thing to disappear. The quality of punditry in this country is pretty abysmal.
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# ? Jan 2, 2016 05:48 |
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Recoome posted:i cannot believe that Chris "dogfucker" Kenny, known fucker of dogs, has carnal knowledge of an animal of the canine variety now come on, that is not the allegation. is it really such a big deal that chris kenny complimented a dog on its looks, put his arm around it, gave it a kiss on the cheek, slowly began to undress etc. etc.? do we really live in a day and age where reporters can't enjoy some quality one-on-one time with a lovely dog in an informal setting? photographs of the alleged incident show the dog looking perfectly at ease with chris kenny's presence.
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# ? Jan 2, 2016 06:03 |
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gay picnic defence posted:Would other countries bother signing up if we did something like that? I can imagine nations being a bit unwilling to ignore a US or UK request to do stuff like that because those two actually have some clout on the world stage, but who would give a gently caress what a little tinpot state like us wants? Very unlikely. FATCA is insane given there is zero benefit to the Australian financial sector - with those costs passed straight onto us. As you say, no other country is going to bear that burden unless they are forced to. So maybe some level of basic data sharing with debtors stung with a "no re-payment agreement/no leave" deal when they re-enter Australia will be the extent of it. On another completely unrelated topic. Went to the supermarket before. 2nd January, hot cross buns.
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quote:The consular staffer told the investigator Mr Briggs had told her she had “piercing” eyes and had placed his arm around her and kissed her on the neck. quote:borderline incident The Australian government, ladies and gentlemen. Smegmatron fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Jan 2, 2016 |
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Smegmatron posted:The Australian government, ladies and gentlemen.
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# ? Jan 2, 2016 07:49 |
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Some dogfucker posted:Photos of the night in question — which I have seen — show Briggs happily posing, and the young diplomat who sparked the inquiry in familiar and informal pose with Briggs’s chief of staff, Stuart Eaton. Yet Briggs has lost his ministerial position for similar informality. quote:At one point, the staffer, a legal graduate on her first overseas posting, complained to Mr Eaton that Mr Briggs was standing too close to her. Mr Eaton suggested she stand next to him, which the staffer did until the night out wrapped up about 2am. Yes, I wonder why she might seem more comfortable and informal next to someone not being a loving creep? e: Like that's a really hosed up understanding of consent he has there. 1st that being informal is consent at all, and that if it were that it would be transferable to whoever else is in the room at the time. I wonder if its the same rationalisation he uses for loving his dogs. WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Jan 2, 2016 |
# ? Jan 2, 2016 07:53 |
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If it didn't want it, it shouldn't have wagged its tail like that.
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# ? Jan 2, 2016 09:14 |
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gay picnic defence posted:Would other countries bother signing up if we did something like that? I can imagine nations being a bit unwilling to ignore a US or UK request to do stuff like that because those two actually have some clout on the world stage, but who would give a gently caress what a little tinpot state like us wants? They could refuse to renew your passport if you're not making repayments.
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open24hours posted:They could refuse to renew your passport if you're not making repayments. That sounds like a favour to me
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# ? Jan 2, 2016 09:51 |
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Graic Gabtar posted:On another completely unrelated topic. Went to the supermarket before. 2nd January, hot cross buns. They were in Coles on New Years Eve.
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# ? Jan 2, 2016 10:00 |
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ewe2 posted:They were in Coles on New Years Eve. I'm sure they price crunched any small companies in the supply chain and paid poo poo wages to employees stacking them on shelves as well. Just a bit of the Coles truly magical spirit of the season.
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# ? Jan 2, 2016 10:23 |
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I for one thing hot cross buns are rad and would be happy to see them all year. Ditto easter eggs
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# ? Jan 2, 2016 10:25 |
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freebooter posted:I for one thing hot cross buns are rad and would be happy to see them all year. Ditto easter eggs Yeah, if this is how an eternal holiday season manifests I'm okay with it. Better than Christmas music in October, but that's not hard since Christmas music universally sucks.
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# ? Jan 2, 2016 10:29 |
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freebooter posted:I for one thing hot cross buns are rad and would be happy to see them all year. Ditto easter eggs Agreed. I'm always disappointed when Easter ends because there are no more hot cross buns. What amazes me is not that the media starts attacking any woman who accuses someone high profile of sexual harassment (par for the course really) but that any women actually go through with reporting it at all, given the treatment they receive. One of those articles was appalling. They weren't going to identify the victim for "privacy" but here is the job she does and a bunch of identifying details about her background.
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# ? Jan 2, 2016 10:31 |
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freebooter posted:I for one thing hot cross buns are rad and would be happy to see them all year. Ditto easter eggs Yeah maybe, but would they be special to you anymore? I have no personal sensibilities with regards to religion but I respect that many people do when it comes to blatant commercialization. Can't you just buy chocolate and bake your own spicy treats through the year? e: Or do what we do, put a poo poo load in the freezer.
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Agreed. I'm always disappointed when Easter ends because there are no more hot cross buns. Uhh my local Woollies had the standard and the chocolate ones for months after Easter, they only stopped for the Xmas season. It's effectively year-round now. quote:What amazes me is not that the media starts attacking any woman who accuses someone high profile of sexual harassment (par for the course really) but that any women actually go through with reporting it at all, given the treatment they receive. Not just that but arses like dogfucker and Uhlmann whine about losing Briggsy, someone who was "at least interesting". More interesting to them than his victims.
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ewe2 posted:Not just that but arses like dogfucker and Uhlmann whine about losing Briggsy, someone who was "at least interesting". More interesting to them than his victims. Here's the funny thing about that: was he, really? Before this happened, was he a blip on anybody's radar, did anybody give a poo poo? We're not losing 'a character', we're losing a footnote, and the fact the best they can say is that he was 'interesting' when he wasn't even someone like Bernardi is hilariously damning.
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Graic Gabtar posted:Very unlikely. FATCA is insane given there is zero benefit to the Australian financial sector - with those costs passed straight onto us. As you say, no other country is going to bear that burden unless they are forced to. So maybe some level of basic data sharing with debtors stung with a "no re-payment agreement/no leave" deal when they re-enter Australia will be the extent of it. I wonder if this is the precursor to privatising the HECS debt. The taxpayer pays for the extra expenses required to get money from HECS refugees and some financial institution collects the repayments and interest. open24hours posted:They could refuse to renew your passport if you're not making repayments. How would they guarantee that they know that you should be making repayments? Seems like a huge penalty for something so vague.
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gay picnic defence posted:How would they guarantee that they know that you should be making repayments? Seems like a huge penalty for something so vague. They'll probably just say you should be making repayments irrespective of how much you earn. That's how they do it in New Zealand if you have a student loan and live overseas.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-02/music-festival-users-would-nearly-vomit-drugs-field-day-overdose/7064054quote:Dr Fulde said there was a trend over the last year or two of more women using ecstasy. Pfft whatever granddad I took pills that were up my arse when I had dysentery and they were loving great.
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# ? Jan 2, 2016 11:35 |
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Sounds like he recommends shelving.
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# ? Jan 2, 2016 11:39 |
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Cleretic posted:Here's the funny thing about that: was he, really? Before this happened, was he a blip on anybody's radar, did anybody give a poo poo? As Preston Towers points out, the whole CPG shtick is what's in it for them, they're not there to inform us, they're not doing political journalism out of any social contract, and they're unable to connect what they're doing to anything real. They're just bored with most of the politicians and get actual entertainment out of losers like Briggs. It helps explain the Ashbygate reaction, why they just assumed this kind of thing was business as usual and wasn't important enough to discuss with us plebs anyway, but now the police and Malcolm have pulled their finger out, suddenly we're getting backgrounded on how much the party hated Brough and Briggs anyway. In the general scheme of things, noone should give a poo poo except that it's a sign of how badly things are being done in our name by people Howard wouldn't spit on let alone be ministers.
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quote:
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/chinese-debt-binge-is-fuelling-a-dangerous-property-bubble-20100615-yd1a.html
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Sky Poos posted:Briggs admits sharing photo of public servant
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# ? Jan 3, 2016 00:12 |
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Maybe he should keep walking from the front bench, all the way out of the door.
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# ? Jan 3, 2016 00:57 |
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Tokamak posted:Maybe he should keep walking from the front bench, all the way out of the door. You think the guy who admits he sent the photo to other people but denies leaking the photo has an ounce of self awareness or fucks given about this? The only thing going through Briggs mind is 'loving females made me lose my cabinet position'.
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# ? Jan 3, 2016 01:09 |
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What will happen to the economy / house prices this year? Will housing become more affordable?
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# ? Jan 3, 2016 01:11 |
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Depends, will you get a better job?
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open24hours posted:Depends, will you get a better job? Joe, is that you?
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# ? Jan 3, 2016 01:16 |
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The definition of "dig up, stupid"
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# ? Jan 3, 2016 01:32 |
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Nice to know at least one of the photos slime bag took wasn't an up skirt.
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Predictably the CPG is now going full cry on Briggs in the hunt for retweets and a fake "debate" where the boys line up against the girls and we all m̙̱e͇̙̯̲̱e̻̰͈͙̤̤ț̣̳̣̯̙̠͎ ̪̟̺̥̞̣̼u͖̣̩̬̘̪͇p͚̯̙ ̠͓ḭ̯̜n̼͖̦̲ ̥̳̰̟̗̯͕a͓ͅ ̝̝̙b͎̣̰̝͈̻i̭͓̦͚͓g͇̳͈ͅ ̝g͈̙̻̣͕̙̰͙r̠̝̰͓̺͓ͅo̙̫̫͓u̟̖̖͙͙̝̝p͓̗̺̭̦̬ ͔̭̣̱̤͓͕h͉̖̙̭̭̻͔u̻̘̣̪̭̠g̖̝̻ ̝̙̭a̹̲b̖̲̥͖̤͉̮̗̪o̥̰̘͉̬̯̥̯u̗̲̬̖͉̹̼̭ͅt̫͚ ̤͍̩̗̱͈̯h͇̬͇̥̞o̖̦̘͍͍̺̭w̯̙̳͎͍̪̥͇ ̦̝̱͍̳̫m̮e̜̲̫̪̣͎̠a͓̺̣͕̟̤n͙͉̘̻̻̪i̯̯̪͇̞̦n̺̥g͙̮̳̳̱͇͇f̤͇͇̙̻͇̥u͕͖̦̖͇̳l̮̯͉̪͙̦̫ ͍̰̬̱̪̩̟͔i̬̺͉t͈̟̹̪̤͕̩ ̰̦̲a͙͉͎̗l̟̻̦̪̘l̲͙͉ ̲i͔̲̖s͙̮ͅ ̲̟̤͕͎͇̥̺̣a͖͙̫̱n̜͖̱̫̦͔d͔͙̙͈͖ ̹͓͎͕͔̤̗h͈͎̞̩͔̪͔̦o̹̭̦̟̘ͅw̖̦̱̥͉ͅ ̳̠̳̺̲̥̼w̳͍̫̩͎e̪̱̯̹̣ͅ'̱͙͉͕͚̼r̫͉͕̣͇̰̻̜e͙͓͍ ͈͇͖͍͚̙̝r͈̱̦̲͔e̥̰̩̫p͓̺r͙͕͓e̞̙̦͈͙s͕̺̰͔̬͍͙̻e͙n̦̣̩̘͖̟̝t̲̤̫͍͖̣̘i̭̤n̟͇̜̜̭͈g̼̮ ̭̥̞͖t͕̦͕ḥ̲͚̫̲͕̤ḛ̙ͅ ̱͇̻̘̫͙͇͕w̳̖̬͖̜̞͈͉̜i̻͙̘̦̩l̯̰̮͎̤͔̥l͖̬̗̘ ̗̖̟̹o͓͉͎̭ͅf̪͉̯̱̦͇͍ ͉̪͔̜̫ṱ̥̭̯͕̙̘ḥ̺̱e͇̦̯̳͔ ̪̼̱͙̪̦̝̹ͅp̤̦e͙ọ̘̪p̫̗l̲̮̜͙̜̙ͅe̼͖̰̰̰̼̠̦ͅ Also Samantha Maiden's piece reveals another sad little highlight: quote:The Sunday Telegraph can also reveal some cabinet ministers were “shocked” at the volume of alcohol he disclosed consuming to investigators in a cabinet-in-confidence report that detailed his Hong Kong high jinks with the young public servant. How about them Cabinet leaks? ewe2 fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Jan 3, 2016 |
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Yes, calling the complainant is definitely the "right thing to do" and not "harassment" or "intimidation". Does he also forward on photos of people he just met on the regular, or only those with piercing eyes?
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ewe2 posted:How about them Cabinet leaks?
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# ? Jan 3, 2016 02:38 |
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you see it was her fault because
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# ? Jan 3, 2016 03:01 |
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Trapezium Dave posted:It was painfully obvious from how Cabinet announced the resignation that there was a long conga line of bullshit from Briggs and they were trying to save face for everyone. To then turn that around and attack Cabinet for being too hard on what was the final straw means the biggest question in all of this is how someone as politically stupid as Briggs got a ministerial position in the first place. Because the bullshit has become systemic. Preston Towers on the latest Wonky podcast made a very good point: these are people who cannot be discreet and don't understand the purpose of discretion. Turnbull is presiding over people who will leak anything to anyone. He won't know from one minute to the next what loving moronic manchild will do. Here's another fantastic example I've only just seen on twitter: That's almost fractally wrong. Not just that they don't get why Briggs got the boot, not just that they want the right to go full idiot on an overseas taxpayer-funded junket, they saw nothing wrong in telling the loving media about it too.
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# ? Jan 3, 2016 03:09 |
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The bar for acceptable conduct is TOO HIGH* *Don't act like a loving mouthbreather
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Yeah that's the comment that sparked mine. A direct challenge to the PM to itemise each and every way that he was acting beneath ministerial standards, that's sure to be a winner.
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