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Sure, but the Battle of Yavin is in ANH, not ROTJ. The Empire hadn't fallen yet.
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:Sure, but the Battle of Yavin is in ANH, not ROTJ. The Empire hadn't fallen yet. What? Yeah, but I'm assuming (maybe this is a bad assumption) that ABY/BBY are markers given to dates, but said calendar only started being used post-ROTJ or fall of coruscant or w/e. Basically deciding "Hey okay it's now ABY 8 because holy poo poo 8 years ago was the most important year of the galaxy".
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Oh, I see what you're saying now. I see where you're coming from, but I don't really agree, I still think it's a silly thing to use, but whatever. Anyway, arguing about this makes us no better than what we're mocking in this thread so I'm happy to shut up about it.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:reading the book, its basically space Heart of Darkness with the indian jedi being kurtz, in space africa/zimbawei. surprisingly, the book that all that dumbshit is in. is pretty good, it actually makes mace a character. Which book?
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BBY/ABY is just an in-universe excuse to start the timeline at ANH.
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did everyone see this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhQPu-5C-WY because it loving owns
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please let it be known that I was not defending ABY/BBY
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:please let it be known that I was not defending ABY/BBY Honestly, me neither; I was merely guessing as to why it was in the EU at all, or more to the point, why wookiepedia uses it everywhere.
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Yeah, missing the incredibly obvious answer must be pretty humiliating.
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site posted:BBY/ABY is just an in-universe excuse to start the timeline at ANH. Yeah. They probably would've used post-ROTJ as the starting marker but so much fiction is devoted to the rebellion era that it's easier to use. Really though, this is the one bit of useful meta-fiction that's used in the insane amount of EU genre fiction. Considering what was said about the actor being listed last in an entry after the encyclopedic minutiae, we're lucky they don't use a more appropriate Republic founding year similar to Rome's AUC.
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Jan 3, 2016 04:33
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BBY/ABY is a perfect thing to use when discussing Star Wars stuff IRL, and a retarded thing to ever be referenced in-universe by the characters. Ok that's 100% of what needs to be said about it glad we wrapped that up.
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so someone tell me about the Wampa that saved the universe
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:so someone tell me about the Wampa that saved the universe Didn't the wampa that attacked luke in empire swear revenge and, one-armed, lead an army of wampa to do uh something I forget who the gently caress went back to hoth
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Any fictional calendar can't be anywhere near as stupid as the calendar that was actually used in Revolutionary France.
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:so someone tell me about the Wampa that saved the universe It managed to type in _WOMPA_STOMPA_ into the control panel and let Dash Rendar survive the attack on Hoth.
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Jan 3, 2016 04:46
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was it aided by the force and thats also the reason it had luke
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For some reason I can't help but read Disney in the voice of Mr. Fishoeder from Bob's Burgers.
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trioculous. lord nyax. the fukkin' vong. inscrutable "near human" space asians. warlike jungle-dwelling "near human" space blacks the eu had it coming. disney did nothing wrong
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Otisburg posted:trioculous. lord nyax. the fukkin' vong. Wait, I thought the space blacks were a peaceful civilization? It always read as 'noble savage' when I looked at that article. Too noble to make war or have any other real negatives, just primitive and in need of the space whites to give them technology.
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Groovelord Neato posted:will never grasp the need to know every tiny bit of minutiae about some piece of media ya like. it's not why you liked the thing you liked to begin with. I understand it, because I used to be like that with the Alien/AvP franchise and to a lesser degree the Star Wars franchise. I was a huge EU junkie in the days before Wookieepedia, and the SW reference books were the best/only way to "know" all of the minutiae and have easy access to it at my fingertips. Hell, my custom title is in reference to an aborted website I used to run, which was basically an online equivalent of the SW Encyclopedia book, but for the Alien franchise. This was all pre-wiki anything, too. Ultimately as I grew up I realized there was more to life than memorizing minutiae about sci-fi franchises I liked, and the advent of fan-made/run wikis made it even easier for me to not give a poo poo because if I ever wanted to look something up, there were community-driven wikis maintained by people with more free time than me that I could visit. I do still gobble up every piece of Alien media that gets released regardless of quality, but it's largely for different reasons than "MUST KNOW EVERYTHINGGGGGGGGG". Wookieepedia is useful even if generally poorly written and badly organized, but there are other fan-run wikis that are equally informative and don't disappear up their own rear end in a top hat or take the source material too seriously. The Transformers wiki is really great, with a really hefty dose of self-aware, self-deprecating humor and a bunch of genuinely clever "gimmick" articles. I also really like the Warhammer40k wiki, because it also seems to recognize the sheer insanity of its source material. although part of that is the source material itself largely being written by people who seem to recognize how over the top everything is, and openly and flagrantly disregarding the notions of "canon" or "continuity".
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:Which book? shatterpoint. Otisburg posted:trioculous. lord nyax. the fukkin' vong. the space blacks are human, its just most of them are force sensitive, because jedi school or some poo poo crashed their like thousands of years before so they are decended from them. but yeah it is retarded and poorly explained. the vong were actualy interesting when the first showed up. they killed a gently caress ton of mainstay characters and shook everything up, then it got boring. lol. there are like 7 things i would save from the EU but not much else. most of them are from kotor(which is still sorta canon) or characters like thrawn. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Jan 3, 2016 |
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Xenomrph posted:I understand it, because I used to be like that with the Alien/AvP franchise and to a lesser degree the Star Wars franchise. I was a huge EU junkie in the days before Wookieepedia, and the SW reference books were the best/only way to "know" all of the minutiae and have easy access to it at my fingertips. Hell, my custom title is in reference to an aborted website I used to run, which was basically an online equivalent of the SW Encyclopedia book, but for the Alien franchise. This was all pre-wiki anything, too. As much as I generally feel what you are saying, WH40k itself is pretty self aware of how ridiculous it is. I'm pretty sure that 99% of the fanbase sees it as a giant joke that its just way to much fun to play straight.
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is there any dumb EU stuff in that old republic mmo bioware did? i'm replaying kotor 2 and the story and writing is great, so i'm wondering if they managed to gently caress it all up in the old republic since i know nothing about it
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Dapper_Swindler posted:shatterpoint. Cool, thanks. Clicking around from this, apparently Indian people also get the "Near-Human" treatment, with the "Chalactans." http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chalactan/Legends I don't even get why they did this with Chalactans and Epicanthix and all that poo poo. Why not just make them humans. Saying that humans from this planet tend to be dark-skinned and like to wear bindis and saris, or are light-skinned with epicanthic folds, works perfectly fine without saying that the minorities aren't human. Which species was it that Wookiepedia noted as being "identical to humans except for their dark brown skin" or something insane like that?
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ThePutty posted:is there any dumb EU stuff in that old republic mmo bioware did? i'm replaying kotor 2 and the story and writing is great, so i'm wondering if they managed to gently caress it all up in the old republic since i know nothing about it star wars: the old republic is an example of good eu material and last i heard disney is probably going to treat biowares stuff as canon it has the same problems with having you visit planets like hoth and tatooine though that a lot of the eu has
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Fojar38 posted:star wars: the old republic is an example of good eu material and last i heard disney is probably going to treat biowares stuff as canon ea has the star wars license and owns bioware. kotor remake is inevitable
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becrumbac posted:ea has the star wars license and owns bioware. kotor remake is inevitable Hopefully they do this but Mass Effect style.
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TK-42-1 posted:Hopefully they do this but Mass Effect style. So, SWTOR?
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EU is such a cesspool that a game jokingly called the "ToR-tanic" is considered a pretty good entry into it. Yes yes tell me how they fixed everything yes yes im sure its great now mhmm ok thanks.
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RFC2324 posted:So, SWTOR? Unless they overhauled combat SWTOR still has the MMO 'walk up and bash until dead' system which is boring as hell.
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it's incredible to me that people are upset the eu was killed.TK-42-1 posted:Unless they overhauled combat SWTOR still has the MMO 'walk up and bash until dead' system which is boring as hell. the best was bioware said oh no it's totally not gonna be reskinned WoW even after videos had been released which made it obvious it was reskinned WoW.
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Chomp8645 posted:BBY/ABY is a perfect thing to use when discussing Star Wars stuff IRL, and a retarded thing to ever be referenced in-universe by the characters. I have OCD, and for years the Bantam books used Endor as the marking point, so now those dates are etched in my brain and can't be changed. Modest Mao posted:did everyone see this Did that director just single-handedly assure Lucas will return to commercial film-making? That would be hilarious, seeing him try to get a mega-hit that wasn't Star Wars related. Remember the massively successful frenzy that was Red Tails?
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Star wars galaxies was great and had a robust economic and crafting system that hasn't been replicated since. Used to be fun looking for or paying for info for the next best materials hot spot. Shame they didn't reuse it for SWTOR
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Lucas released another flop movie about fantasy creatures or something. Maybe third time's the charm?
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Chill la Chill posted:Star wars galaxies was great and had a robust economic and crafting system that hasn't been replicated since. Used to be fun looking for or paying for info for the next best materials hot spot. Shame they didn't reuse it for SWTOR the unlocking jedi character system was insanely dumb they shoulda just made it really really hard to play as a jedi (permadeath, revealing yourself as a jedi in public got everyone on your rear end, etc)
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I've been reading about the EU with a mix of  and  because of how bad it is. I mean, I like Doctor Who, and the Doctor Who expanded universe outside the TV show has a lot of dumb stuff, but so much of the Star Wars EU is just so agressively dumb.Like I was randomly clicking on "List of Star Wars Species" on Wikipedia, and for the Vong, who are meant to be this huge threat it says: quote:The only race the Vong saw as a threat, or as close to a threat as they were willing to believe, were Wookiees. I get that Wookies are big, but the idea of an army of Chewbaccas scaring a race which have wiped out a big chunk of the universe, yeah....
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OldMemes posted:I've been reading about the EU with a mix of How bad is the WHO EU?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:How bad is the WHO EU? The 90s were not great.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:How bad is the WHO EU? I've heard there are some really good radio plays.
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