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BrianWilly posted:I'm loving Legends of Wonder Woman. It was a little slow starting up but it's turning into one of the most epic and engaging WW stories I've read. I like that it's not very "meta" or self-referential...like, there are no quips about invisible planes or star-spangled underwear or anything like that. It really is just a forthright, sincere story about a young princess who has to step up to save the world. I hold the, I think, second Perez Annual as one of my favourite single issues of all time. That's Who Killed Mindi Meyer?, right? Cause that's the story I mean. Does a fantastic job of making you realise how much Perez managed to build up a tertiary character.
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Swillkitsch posted:Black Canary is still pretty great too. I'm hoping Annie Wu stays on the art for awhile. If the arc is concluding with the next issue, it'll be too soon. I still want to know who Kurt is, but based on what y'all said about Team Seven and the New 52 Birds of Prey I guess I'll continue to live with the mystery. Kurt was Dinah's wife and Team Seven teammate. Then he died. Then he wasn't dead but had amnesia. Also he was doing something to affect her powers, I dunno.
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Jan 3, 2016 04:58
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I just found out about 1985's DC Challenge where there was a new creative team for each of the twelve issues and the whole point was seemingly to give the next person down the line the most ridiculous set of characters and events to tie up, and it was full of inside jokes.  Anyone read it? Is it as fun as it sounds?
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Jan 3, 2016 07:53
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quote:Perez's run is one of the most definitive and cohesive Wonder Woman runs to the point that I don't think anyone can really "understand" post-Crisis Wonder Woman without having perused it. If you've read Rucka, for instance, there's a bunch of things in there where you'll be like "Oh, so that's what Rucka was referencing." Perez's worldbuilding is incredible, not just by WW standards, but by by all standards, period. His development and characterization of the Amazons still makes all other Amazons characterizations feel halfassed in comparison. I completely agree with all of this. Perez WW kicks rear end, and is totally worth your time.
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Jan 3, 2016 16:24
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So the JLA trades are confusing the gently caress out of me. I want all of Morrison's run, which appears to be JLA Vol. 1-4, with Vol. 5 being Mark Waid's run. However, I also want Tower of Babel by Waid, which apparently isn't included in Vol. 5 or any of the preceding volumes? Is it just a separate collection for some reason?
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Jan 3, 2016 19:03
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Volume 4 is part Morrison and part Waid. It's in there.
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Jan 3, 2016 19:10
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Dunbar posted:Volume 4 is part Morrison and part Waid. It's in there. Weird, the Wiki article for Tower of Babel says it's JLA #43-46, but on Barnes & Noble's site (their buy 2, get 1 one free sale always cleans out my wallet), it says Vol. 4 collects JLA #36-41. I figured it must have had Tower of Babel since the cover for Vol. 4 is the same as the one for Tower of Babel, but that discrepancy was tripping me up.
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Jan 3, 2016 19:17
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Weird, the Wiki article for Tower of Babel says it's JLA #43-46, but on Barnes & Noble's site (their buy 2, get 1 one free sale always cleans out my wallet), it says Vol. 4 collects JLA #36-41. I figured it must have had Tower of Babel since the cover for Vol. 4 is the same as the one for Tower of Babel, but that discrepancy was tripping me up. I think the hardcover and paperback editions have different material - the hardcovers only collected the comics written by Morrison and excluded the various fill-ins by Mark Millar and Mark Waid (e.g. the stories with Amazo and Julian September, and possibly the No Man's Land tie-in, though I'm less sure about that one) whereas the paperbacks have every issues consecutively. Maybe that has something to do with it?
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Jan 3, 2016 19:23
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That Amazo story is a good Amazo story. One of my Wee Nerd Child toe-dips into close reading was realizing that for (many) DC characters (much of the time), the slogan was the power. It didn't matter how terrible the science or plain real-world logic would have to be, that's just how it was: the Flash was the fastest man alive, because gently caress you. The DC universe openly functioned on narrative logic. Seeing Good Mark Millar clearly agree with my past child-self owned. Amazo has all the powers of the Justice League, because eat me fucko, so disbanding the League totally depowers him.
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Jan 3, 2016 19:57
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That sure does sound like a Morrison idea. He has written a few stuff for Miller at other times...it'd be hilarious if he ghost wrote a fill in on his own run.
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Jan 3, 2016 20:11
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It sounds like a Millar idea. Like, him and Grant are at a bar, and Mark makes a joke about Amazo losing its powers when the JLA disbands. They laugh, and it ends up as a comic. I figure that's the same way we got Skrull Kill Krew. Pre fame Millar seemed like he'd be a fun guy to hang out with. Few beers, few laughs, and end up with comic script so you can afford to do it again.
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Jan 3, 2016 20:35
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It's also great that the Atom applied some science-thinkin' to go "Oh yeah, reality works like a children's story—how would a five-year-old try to beat Amazo?". He'd be a terrible physicist if he didn't at some point realize that science consisted mainly of nursery rhyme-grade logic puzzles, and punching.
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Jan 3, 2016 21:28
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I missed this earlier DC Fans Take Action...and Succeed!quote:“It’s a great time to be a DC fan.”
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Jan 4, 2016 03:50
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The middle paragraph is kind of hilariously patting on back. "We cancelled this book before it reached it's 12 issues like we promised, but then you got mad at us enough that we decided to change our minds and only cancel it at 12 issues instead!"
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Teenage Fansub posted:I just found out about 1985's DC Challenge where there was a new creative team for each of the twelve issues and the whole point was seemingly to give the next person down the line the most ridiculous set of characters and events to tie up, and it was full of inside jokes. It is worth the read just because it's so unlike anything else. Each issue ends with commentary by the writers describing the narrative situations thrown at them and how they cared to get out of them (if they even tried to!). The story definitely loses the plot at certain points but as a round-robin story, what-ya-gonna-do. I even made myself a hardcover version a few years back:     bobkatt013 posted:I was wondering how the Perez Wonder Women is? Is it worth a read! Does it hold up? redbackground fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jan 4, 2016 |
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Jan 4, 2016 18:11
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I believe the Pérez WW omnibus can be acquired pretty cheaply at the moment. As a matter of fact, I pre-ordered the second one via Amazon UK when it was announced, and last time I checked the price had dropped to about £18 - now that's pretty good for what's likely to be a 600-page oversized hardcover, considering I've bought TPBs that were more expensive than that.
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Jan 4, 2016 22:57
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Wheat Loaf posted:I believe the Pérez WW omnibus can be acquired pretty cheaply at the moment. I got it all off comixology and looking forward to reading it.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I believe the Pérez WW omnibus can be acquired pretty cheaply at the moment. £25 right now, actually, but that's still really good. Hell, if the first one is still around £30 in a few weeks, I may take the plunge and replace my old dog-eared tpbs.
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Jan 5, 2016 02:23
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Right - since I pre-ordered it, I get it for whatever the lowest price it drops to is, so it must have gone back up.
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Jan 5, 2016 02:54
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Okay I know I'm one of like, 3 people on the planet reading Superman / Wonder Woman, but I've gotta vent. The most recent storyline growing out of Supes depower and Diana's ascension to God of War-hood has been utterly retarded. Sudden, drastically different characterizations to justify a will-they/won't-they split up tension is just amateur hour. I thought putting Clark and Diana together was a bold and interesting move on the launch of the New 52, and I'm pretty disappointed to see it handled this way.
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Jan 5, 2016 16:08
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Ferret posted:Okay I know I'm one of like, 3 people on the planet reading Superman / Wonder Woman, but I've gotta vent. The most recent storyline growing out of Supes depower and Diana's ascension to God of War-hood has been utterly retarded. Sudden, drastically different characterizations to justify a will-they/won't-they split up tension is just amateur hour. I thought putting Clark and Diana together was a bold and interesting move on the launch of the New 52, and I'm pretty disappointed to see it handled this way. Every time Superman and Wonder Woman got together, it has been the opposite of bold and interesting.
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Jan 5, 2016 16:42
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Honestly Tomasi should only write Batman books because that area is what he excels at the most. Good JSA run too but that team doesn't quite exist anymore so moot point. Superman/Wonder Woman has been floundering for a long time and he can't save it. No one can.
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Jan 5, 2016 17:01
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lotus circle posted:Honestly Tomasi should only write Batman books because that area is what he excels at the most. Good JSA run too but that team doesn't quite exist anymore so moot point. Superman/Wonder Woman has been floundering for a long time and he can't save it. No one can. I really enjoyed his Green Lantern Corps 
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Ferret posted:Okay I know I'm one of like, 3 people on the planet reading Superman / Wonder Woman Yeah, the whole annual was clearly editorial mandate to wrap up the relationship in time for BvS.
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Equeen posted:Every time Superman and Wonder Woman got together, it has been the opposite of bold and interesting. It was interesting in Kingdom Come, but only because it was the end of the story and allowed for a good Batman moment. Though Bruce has terrible taste in how to cook a steak.
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Endless Mike posted:It was interesting in Kingdom Come, but only because it was the end of the story and allowed for a good Batman moment. Also Lois was gone and it was more about the two of them being more human and less gods. Is there anything that needs to be read before Omega men? Is anything in regards to Kyle Rayner important to get the story or is he just in it?
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Jan 5, 2016 17:45
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bobkatt013 posted:Is there anything that needs to be read before Omega men? Is anything in regards to Kyle Rayner important to get the story or is he just in it? So long as you start with the free preview issue, which establishes how The Omega Man portray themselves and Kyle to the galaxy, you should be fine. In fact, with regard to the seven issues currently out, you should be at kind of an advantage, as Kyle was previously a White Lantern with the cosmos as his oyster, and Omega Men reverts him to Green status acting on behalf of the Corps. If there was a story linking the change, I missed it, so better to go in blind.
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Jan 5, 2016 18:43
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SM/WW sure was a huge waste of Doug Mahnke. The comic was good under Soule
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Jan 5, 2016 21:02
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Anything that doesn't involve Vera Black in almost every panel, is a waste of Doug Mahnke.
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Jan 5, 2016 21:07
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I had a really vivid dream about Kyle Rayner the other day and I'm choosing to interpret it as a sign. What's he been up to nowadays? Is it worth catching up to his shenanigans?
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Jan 6, 2016 12:35
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He's been hanging out with terrorists/revolutionaries in Omega Men which has been great. Kyle himself is written pretty well. That's the only recent Kyle Rayner thing worth reading.
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Jan 6, 2016 12:38
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Kylo Rayne, temper tantrum-throwing Green Lantern. I'd read it.
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Sentinel Red posted:Kylo Rayne, temper tantrum-throwing Green Lantern. I'd read it. I would accept this if he murdered Hal Jordan with a green lightsaber.
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ImpAtom posted:I would accept this if he murdered Hal Jordan with a green lightsaber. A true hero of the galaxy
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Jan 6, 2016 16:48
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Well it looks like Swamp Thing is returning to its gothic horror roots (pun intended) which isn't a terrible thing, but it does seem like a step back after all the excellent writers and stories that preceded this issue. It's clear Wein is trying to channel the original stories he did way back in the day with Wrightson, and while Jones isn't a Bernie Wrightson himself he isn't a slouch either. Jones' artwork goes well with the story and it is solidly done. The story is pure horror so not really much in the way of characterization, especially for ST.
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Jan 6, 2016 19:42
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If you miss Animal Man, you should pick up today's Midnighter.
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Jan 6, 2016 22:15
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Man, Fernandez is knocking out of the park     If only he weren't using the idiotic Destro helmet it would be perfect. And Lobdell is no slouch either, we're finally getting some explanation on what the gently caress are the Nethers and hey, JD is actually named Duela. Who knew? 
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Jan 10, 2016 16:46
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Javier Fernandez loving slayed it on Magneto too, the coloring just wasnt nearly as good as those pages. He's really great and apparently super reliable to finish books every month.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:and hey, JD is actually named Duela. Who knew?
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I think he means current continuity. But also, it's Joker's Daughter, so who gives a poo poo?
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