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Mister Macys posted:Will I need a wired keyboard and mouse for when I attempt to use a USB key to install El Capitan, to a brand new, nothing on it HDD, to my Mac Mini (2012)? Yes, I learnt that the hard way the other week.
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Well, poo poo. Will I need to format my brand new HDD beforehand too, or will it do that as part of the process?
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IuniusBrutus posted:So I have the bug big time for an external monitor. I just got done trying a cheap Samsung 28" 4k panel, which was cringe worthy. I am in fact not cringing and having a nice time.
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Mister Macys posted:Well, poo poo. It'll (El Capitan) install a lot faster and run better on a SSD, though.
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Do you guys use FanControl while playing games on your laptop? I'm a little worried about the heat, and I've already bought a cooling pad (which lowered the average temperatures to the mid/low 80s°C), but now I am wondering whether or not I should crank up the fans, too. I am playing stuff like Pillars of Eternity on a base model 15" rMBP (mid-2014) with integrated graphics. Is there a downside (other than the noise) to simply setting the minimum speed of the fans to something like 4500rpm while playing games?
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When I use Lightroom my fans spin up to maximum and I don't give a poo poo. You shouldn't give a poo poo either, all modern processors downclock themselves to prevent thermal overload.
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Jack's Flow posted:Do you guys use FanControl while playing games on your laptop? And then turn it back down when you're done. You could have two shortcuts with the necessary parameters included.
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Alright, I'll stop worrying about some light gaming melting the intestines of my laptop. I've never played games on my Macbook before, and rarely ever heard the fans at all, that's why I was worried. Thanks guys.
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Which of the MacBook Pros had SSD issues because of the motherboards? I know the NVIDIA ones did (aluminum MacBook, 2009 MBP) but what about the 2012 13" MBP? I have a 480GB Mushkin Chronos (Sandisk SF2281) sitting around that I'm not using and plan to put in there.
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Curious, is anyone sporting the 11" MacBook Air? How is it?
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Bob Morales posted:Which of the MacBook Pros had SSD issues because of the motherboards? I know the NVIDIA ones did (aluminum MacBook, 2009 MBP) but what about the 2012 13" MBP? Anecdotal but I got an SSD for my 2012 13" MBP and it didn't work at all. Waiting to hear back from Crucial. This was within the last 2 weeks.
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Tab8715 posted:Curious, is anyone sporting the 11" MacBook Air? How is it? I have it and I love it. I wish the display was sharper and higher-resolution but that's literally my only complaint. I've owned it for over a year and battery life is still insane, it's fast as hell in day-to-day usage and I've actually been surprised at how many games I've been able to play on it, even if I do have to turn some of them down to medium or low settings. Also, it makes almost all other laptops seem huge and unwieldy by comparison.
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The rear end Stooge posted:I have it and I love it. I wish the display was sharper and higher-resolution but that's literally my only complaint. I've owned it for over a year and battery life is still insane, it's fast as hell in day-to-day usage and I've actually been surprised at how many games I've been able to play on it, even if I do have to turn some of them down to medium or low settings. Also, it makes almost all other laptops seem huge and unwieldy by comparison. I have one as well, and have zero complaints other than the aforementioned screen resolution (and even that isn't that big of a deal). It's just a great, little machine that makes all other laptops feel heavy in comparison. I don't game on it, but I can run Ableton (audio software) and even apps like Pixelmator just fine.
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Tab8715 posted:Curious, is anyone sporting the 11" MacBook Air? How is it? I've bounced between the 13" and 11" models a few times. It's so cute and tiny and portable. If you get a 2013+ the battery life is good (7-8 hours). I had the previous models and they would only last 3-4 hours which isn't really enough for me. 1366x768 sucks for some tasks (programming etc). If you're okay with not having to look at things side by side or having a ton of vertical screen estate you should be okay. I like to have a terminal or two, a website plus a Chrome Inspector/Firefox web console open, and maybe a PDF open as well. If you're good with virtual desktops or using stuff like screen for terminals you should be okay. Also didn't work very well for graphics editing. If you have a big external monitor at home or the office you might be okay as well. If they could cram in a 1600x900 panel (or even a 1440x1900) and lose the bezel (like the XPS 13) it would be perfect
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Tab8715 posted:Curious, is anyone sporting the 11" MacBook Air? How is it? I really like mine, but the display is terrible.
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I wouldn't say it's terrible, just sub-optimal. Despite the low resolution, it's far better in terms of brightness, color reproduction, and viewing angles than most laptop displays of a similar size.
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I'm in this really weird spot right now with the laptops. I love the idea of the MacBook, but 1 USBC port is a huge turnoff for me, at the same time I really want retina but I don't want a MBP. Horsepower wise, the MacBook is probably fine for me, as it would just be a general use machine with VPN/RemoteDesktop/Terminal work stuff. The 8 gigs/256gb option would also suit me fine since I use spotify and have a desktop at home. It would mainly be a couch/travel laptop. The 480p cam also kind of sucks.
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Anyone have real world experience with OWC's Aura 6 SSDs for 2012-2013 rMBPs? My 512GB factory drive is saturated with assets I actually use (3D video projects) and I'm thinking of uprading to the 1.0TB Envoy + USB 3 enclosure, but it does not seem faster. They claim ~550MB/sec read, but I've seen up to 770MB/sec on the built-in drive. I don't want to take a 30% speed hit at the cost of expandability. I scrub a lot of hi-res video two streams at a time. But... the 2015 rMBP gets 2000MB/sec, so... I guess I'll just sit tight for a potential March refresh. I doubt the resale value of Early 2013 rMBP 15" is that high. Maybe a g?
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kuskus posted:Anyone have real world experience with OWC's Aura 6 SSDs for 2012-2013 rMBPs? My 512GB factory drive is saturated with assets I actually use (3D video projects) and I'm thinking of uprading to the 1.0TB Envoy + USB 3 enclosure, but it does not seem faster. They claim ~550MB/sec read, but I've seen up to 770MB/sec on the built-in drive. I don't want to take a 30% speed hit at the cost of expandability. I scrub a lot of hi-res video two streams at a time. OWC's Air SSD's were unreliable. Your other option is to get the adapter for $18 http://www.amazon.com/SATA-mSATA-MACBOOK-Retina-Adapter/dp/B00OQG630U And then spend $345 on a 1TB mSATA Samsung EVO 850 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TGIVRYU/ref=twister_B00U2G8PUO?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 (or whatever SSD is cool right now and on sale) The 2012 and early 2013 Retinas are the only ones you can do this with, though. Another option is the 768GB (biggest they made) OEM drive, find them on eBay for $440 or so. Edit: I just saw your note about the speed hit. The 2012 and early 2013 are SATA so you're not going to get the > 600MBs speeds. Are you sure you don't have a late-2013 with the PCIe storage? There are no aftermarket upgrades that I am aware of. Bob Morales fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Jan 4, 2016 |
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LmaoTheKid posted:I'm in this really weird spot right now with the laptops. I love the idea of the MacBook, but 1 USBC port is a huge turnoff for me, at the same time I really want retina but I don't want a MBP. The current showstopper is that there is no existing USB-C hub on the market that will support charging the laptop while connected. IMHO if they had just left the charge port separate it'd be a good machine. There are two possible charging hub solutions set to appear this month, one has an HDMI out, the other an MDP out. Even so, leaving the headache of port management to third parties seems like such a cop-out. quote:The 480p cam also kind of sucks. Probably best they could do to fit in such a small space.
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Binary Badger posted:The current showstopper is that there is no existing USB-C hub on the market that will support charging the laptop while connected. IMHO if they had just left the charge port separate it'd be a good machine. There are two possible charging hub solutions set to appear this month, one has an HDMI out, the other an MDP out. Even so, leaving the headache of port management to third parties seems like such a cop-out. Yeah, I'm really not crazy about it not having magsafe. I get that the battery life is so good that you shouldn't really need it but cmon guys. I just want to replace my 2011 MBA with a retina machine with the same formfactor. I guess I'll wait to see what Skylake brings.
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I wouldn't buy the current MacBook solely based on the fact that it's a Gen 1 Apple device.
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Bob Morales posted:I wouldn't buy the current MacBook solely based on the fact that it's a Gen 1 Apple device. Yeah, there's that too.
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Bob Morales posted:The 2012 and early 2013 are SATA so you're not going to get the > 600MBs speeds. Are you sure you don't have a late-2013 with the PCIe storage? There are no aftermarket upgrades that I am aware of.
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Now that I've decided to get the 256GB 13" mbp when the new one comes out (hopefully April or so), is it wise to get the 16GB RAM version? I won't need it as the heaviest things I will use it for is some simple editing in Adobe Premiere once in a while, some Photoshopping and maybe some gaming. What I'm afraid of is 8GB as a standard is running out of style and 3 years from now will be a major limitation or at least a reason for people willing to pay a lot less second hand. The price difference is 200 euros. Do you guys think that investment will mean a meaningful increase in lifespan and resale value? I'm most concerned about lifespan as this laptop is going to be a big investment for me and I hope to make it last.
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The answer for any modern MB that you plan on using for more than a couple of years is always "max out the RAM." All it takes is a major OS revision a few years down the road for your perfectly reasonable amount of RAM today to seem like a major hinderance.
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Bob Morales posted:Which of the MacBook Pros had SSD issues because of the motherboards? I know the NVIDIA ones did (aluminum MacBook, 2009 MBP) but what about the 2012 13" MBP? For what it's worth, it looks like Apple offered a full range of SSD options on the 2012 13".
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smackfu posted:From what I've heard, this year's CES (which is this week) is when all the USB-C stuff is going to be announced. Most importantly new chipsets which all the cheap manufacturers can then build a product around. Oh and magnetic USB-C cable (like MagSafe): https://griffintechnology.com/us/device/laptops/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-type-c-cable japtor fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Jan 4, 2016 |
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BobHoward posted:For what it's worth, it looks like Apple offered a full range of SSD options on the 2012 13". Yea, I think they offered Toshiba and Samsungs as OEM drives. But there was an issue with at the very least Sandforce drives and some of the earlier MacBooks. I know I had the issue on an aluminum MacBook with a OCZ Sandforce (Agility 2, bleh) drive. It came with a utility to force SATA 2.0 (auto-detect didn't work) and sleep mode was wonky. OWC supposedly had special firmware but I wasn't sure if the problem extended to the 2011 or 2012's with the Intel chipset. Back when I had my 2010 13" Pro I had an Intel XM-25 (lol 80GB) and then an Intel 320 (160GB) but I didn't have any issues with those.
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Cyrano4747 posted:The answer for any modern MB that you plan on using for more than a couple of years is always "max out the RAM." All it takes is a major OS revision a few years down the road for your perfectly reasonable amount of RAM today to seem like a major hinderance. Thank you. This is exactly what I was worrying about, but I have no experience with macs and if I hadn't known this I would've felt silly spending so much money for what feels like an upgrade I don't need.
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I Am Crake posted:Now that I've decided to get the 256GB 13" mbp when the new one comes out (hopefully April or so), is it wise to get the 16GB RAM version? Yes, definitely. I went with 8GB and started wishing I had more RAM to spare once I started using virtual machines. Premiere and Photoshop are guaranteed memory hogs as well. Are you sure it's a 200 euro difference? When I was buying, I think the jump from 8GB to 16GB was only like $80 USD.
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LmaoTheKid posted:I'm in this really weird spot right now with the laptops. I love the idea of the MacBook, but 1 USBC port is a huge turnoff for me, at the same time I really want retina but I don't want a MBP. Just get a 13" rMBP. It's honestly not that far off from the Air in terms of dimensions (it's actually smaller in the horizontal length/width departments and as thick as the Air's thickest point, minus the wedge taper that shaves weight) and it's only a little bit heavier. It's no retina MacBook or iPad but it's a much smaller computer than one would think given the way ports have been getting axed in favor of portability.
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Just get a 13" rMBP. It's honestly not that far off from the Air in terms of dimensions (it's actually smaller in the horizontal length/width departments and as thick as the Air's thickest point, minus the wedge taper that shaves weight) and it's only a little bit heavier. I'm beginning to lean this way. I just took my MBA in for battery service because my wife wants it when I upgrade. The haptic touchpad is really nice as is the screen. At this point I might as well wait for skylake.
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Bob Morales posted:Yea, I think they offered Toshiba and Samsungs as OEM drives. SanDisk as well.
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Binary Badger posted:SanDisk as well. Not until the Airs and Retinas. The only 2.5" SSD's I've seen as OEM in an MBP were the Toshiba (JMICRON? Not sure) (silver) or Samsung 830 (black) drives.
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