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Baracula posted:Charlemagne hosed his kids, and also europe Looks like someone bought Empress Irene an account.
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Jan 3, 2016 10:51
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Baracula posted:He tried! The story i choose to believe because gently caress him is he slept with his study materials under his head so it'd be absorbed and he wouldn't be a dumb idiot anymore. His biographer Einhard (who was biased towards Charlemagne, regarding him as a sort of foster father) wrote that he was an intelligent and eloquent speaker, a fluent Latin speaker and could understand Greek to some extent, and that he hired private tutors for himself, but was illiterate and attempts to learn to write and read came very late in life and were abortive: Einhard posted:Charles had the gift of ready and fluent speech, and could express whatever he had to say with the utmost clearness. He was not satisfied with command of his native language merely, but gave attention to the study of foreign ones, and in particular was such a master of Latin that he could speak it as well as his native tongue; but he could understand Greek better than he could speak it. He was so eloquent, indeed, that he might have passed for a teacher of eloquence. He most zealously cultivated the liberal arts, held those who taught them in great esteem, and conferred great honors upon them. He took lessons in grammar of the deacon Peter of Pisa, at that time an aged man. Another deacon, Albin of Britain, surnamed Alcuin, a man of Saxon extraction, who was the greatest scholar of the day, was his teacher in other branches of learning. The King spent much time and labour with him studying rhetoric, dialectics, and especially astronomy; he learned to reckon, and used to investigate the motions of the heavenly bodies most curiously, with an intelligent scrutiny. He also tried to write, and used to keep tablets and blanks in bed under his pillow, that at leisure hours he might accustom his hand to form the letters; however, as he did not begin his efforts in due season, but late in life, they met with ill success. It's almost sort of sad. I have a feeling he may have been dyslexic. The later biographer Notker the Stammerer (less sober than Einhard and prone to confabulation) also notes his patronage of learning and attention to study: Notker the Stammerer posted:But when Albinus (Alcuin), an Englishman, heard that the most religious Emperor Charles gladly entertained wise men, he entered into a ship and came to him. Now Albinus was skilled in all learning beyond all others of our times, for he was the disciple of that most learned priest Bede, who next to Saint Gregory was the most skillful interpreter of the scriptures. And Charles received Albinus kindly and kept him at his side to the end of his life, except when he marched with his armies to his vast wars: nay, Charles would even call himself Albinus's disciple; and Albinus he would call his master. As to the incest stories, they appear to be a later invention connected to legends of St. Giles, and possibly mutated into incest from earlier charges of sodomy. Hellequin has a new favorite as of 11:04 on Jan 3, 2016 |
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Jan 3, 2016 11:00
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Baracula posted:The political divisions of Europe: not retarded It has to be said that the division of Europe was due to the fact that Primogeniture was not the accepted method of succession back then. Every son was entitled to his little share.
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Jan 3, 2016 11:21
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Dalris Othaine posted:Speaking of Charlemagne, he's basically the reason that Ecclesiastical Latin exists. Said twitter produced one of the funniest ice burns on dumb islamophobes ever recently: 
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Jan 3, 2016 11:35
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) the Pope has his own Twitter account @Pontifex. He tweets in English and Latin.
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Munin posted:It has to be said that the division of Europe was due to the fact that Primogeniture was not the accepted method of succession back then. Every son was entitled to his little share. Charlemagne couldn't increase Crown Authority high enough 
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Jan 3, 2016 12:21
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Comrade Koba posted:Looks like someone bought Empress Irene an account. If that was true at least I'd have a legitimate imperial title, unlike Karl 
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Jan 3, 2016 12:43
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I'm Charles II's of Spain parachute account. Goo goo gaa gaa.
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Jan 3, 2016 13:15
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Tasteful Dickpic posted:I'm Charles II's of Spain parachute account. Goo goo gaa gaa. No negative post count, no deal.
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Jan 3, 2016 14:38
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... There's a post counter?
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Jan 3, 2016 14:48
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Tasteful Dickpic posted:... There's a post counter? Yes, and the fact that it isn't visible on every post is a godsend.
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Tasteful Dickpic posted:... There's a post counter? It increases if you post on a good subforum, decreases if you post on a bad subforum and doesn't change if you post on a neutral subforum.
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Jan 3, 2016 15:15
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Well, I'm mostly here, so it should be minus 500.
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Munin posted:It has to be said that the division of Europe was due to the fact that Primogeniture was not the accepted method of succession back then. Every son was entitled to his little share. BravestOfTheLamps posted:Charlemagne couldn't increase Crown Authority high enough Gavelkind strikes again 
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Jan 3, 2016 18:01
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The most famous philosopher in the world at the time, Ludwig Wittgenstein, spent part of World War II in a hospital ward delivering medication from the pharmacy - but he advised the patients not to take their medicine.
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Jan 3, 2016 18:20
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Baracula posted:Charlemagne couldn't read at all. He was a dumb illiterate motherfucker. Tasteful Dickpic posted:I'm Charles II's of Spain parachute account. Goo goo gaa gaa. It's always weird how Charles V came before Charles II :V
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Jan 3, 2016 18:32
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Weren't the overwhelming, vast majority of people illiterate at the time? My understanding was that anyone, especially rulers/royalty being able to read and write would have been incredibly rare.
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Jan 3, 2016 18:36
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What was there to read anyway?
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Jan 3, 2016 18:44
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Lives of Famous Whores by Suetonius.
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Jan 3, 2016 18:53
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Back To 99 posted:Lives of Famous Whores by Suetonius. Suetonius is basically the Stephenie Meyer of 80 AD.
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Jan 3, 2016 21:31
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steinrokkan posted:Heh, this fucker conquered half of Europe and established the political divisions of the continent for the better part of a millennium... What a retard! Transliteration of Chinese characters is awesome and should not be besmirched.  Like, computer is 'electric brain' (diannao) in Chinese. How cool is that?
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Jan 3, 2016 22:11
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:Weren't the overwhelming, vast majority of people illiterate at the time? My understanding was that anyone, especially rulers/royalty being able to read and write would have been incredibly rare. Yes and the reason why you reached the position of leader in German warbands, confederations or tribes wasn't exactly based on SAT scores. Well Alaric, your thesis on "Climate Change and migratory process of the tribes along the Danube" was fascinating, how you'd like an internship as king of the Goths?
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Jan 3, 2016 22:16
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Mans posted:And yet he was one of the brightest military minds of the time with such a great focus on building a stable and lasting state and logistics behind it that probably weren't seen for centuries before or after in europe. Charlemagne: good at breaking things, possibly forever!
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Jan 3, 2016 22:19
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Have we done Jack Churchill yet? If not, why not? The man fought in WW2, armed with a longbow, bagpipes, and a broadsword. Because "An officer who goes to battle without his sword is not fully dressed. " He was creditted with being the last British soldier to get a confirmed kill using a longbow, in 1940. When he was captured he was playing the pipes. Basically, Mad Jack was one of the most  soldiers ever. Read more here: http://www.badassoftheweek.com/churchill.html
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Jan 3, 2016 22:30
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Mans posted:It's always weird how Charles V came before Charles II :V Charles V was also Charles I. And Charles IV was simultaneously Charles I as well. And then Charles I of Austria was also Charles III or possibly Charles IV of Bohemia (because the title of Charles III was also claimed in 18th century Charles VII) and Charles IV of Hungary. This sort of poo poo was my professor's favourite excuse for failing students at oral exams. steinrokkan has a new favorite as of 22:35 on Jan 3, 2016 |
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Jan 3, 2016 22:30
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Baracula posted:Charlemagne: good at breaking things, possibly forever! Yeah gently caress him for breaking the peaceful European community of the eight century
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Jan 3, 2016 22:31
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Rad Gravity posted:Yeah gently caress him for breaking the peaceful European community of the eight century Baracula seems to have been directly affected by this medieval warlord's injustices.
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Jan 3, 2016 22:33
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Rad Gravity posted:Yeah gently caress him for breaking the peaceful European community of the eight century I'm sure the Saxons and Lombards appreciated his peacemaking
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Jan 3, 2016 22:35
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It spawned that hilarious music video with breathing (until recently) historical fun fact Christopher Lee, so Charlie's alright in my book.
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Jan 3, 2016 23:10
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In the 6th century the ByZaNtInEs sent 2 men on a top secret mission to steal the secret of silk from India. A few things went wrong and a few things went right. - Namely they found out Silk is made in China. OK whatever can't be too far. - Then they found out Silk is made from bugs?? Constanti-no-thanks! - Finally after a while they got over that one weird fact and successfully stole silkworm larva. - ...and took them home and closed that dumbass Silk Bug Road down for good. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smuggling_of_silkworm_eggs_into_the_Byzantine_Empire
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Jan 3, 2016 23:25
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Solice Kirsk posted:Suetonius is basically the Stephenie Meyer of 80 AD. 50 Shades of Gaius 
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Jan 3, 2016 23:37
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Widukind had some good ideas.
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Speaking of Charlemagne there's a theory with some traction that his aggressive Christianizing of Europe led to the Viking Age. Some Franks high on zeal burn down some Norse temples in lower Denmark and the local Vikings go on a revenge raid or two and figure out that Christian churches are both rich and easy pickings, thus leading to a medieval gold-rush of sorts. At the very least Charlemagne's proselytizing by sword would have raised tensions contributing to Norse aggression. Baracula posted:I'm sure the Saxons and Lombards appreciated his peacemaking Pretty much any empire maker in history has been a massive asshat, short of the dudes pulling together a community of other oppressed people maybe.
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hard counter posted:Speaking of Charlemagne there's a theory with some traction that his aggressive Christianizing of Europe led to the Viking Age. Some Franks high on zeal burn down some Norse temples in lower Denmark and the local Vikings go on a revenge raid or two and figure out that Christian churches are both rich and easy pickings, thus leading to a medieval gold-rush of sorts. At the very least Charlemagne's proselytizing by sword would have raised tensions contributing to Norse aggression. Interesting, I would like to know more!
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hitler bad 
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Snapchat A Titty posted:Interesting, I would like to know more! I'll try to hit you with some proper sources later but wiki has a small section on this for now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_Age#Probable_causes_of_Norse_expansion
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Virtually all British princes have the name "Arthur" buried somewhere in their list of names. Prince William, for instance, is William Arthur Philip Louis. However, not a single prince with the first name of Arthur has ever lived to take the throne.
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Jan 4, 2016 09:04
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Victoria Woodhull was the first woman to run for president of the USA. In 1872. There are a few technicalities that you could bring up to disqualify her (such as not being quite old enough), but still. She also did a bunch of other stuff, and was once married to a man whose name leads me to assume that he was a super-villain, Colonel Blood.
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Jan 4, 2016 11:59
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hard counter posted:Speaking of Charlemagne there's a theory with some traction that his aggressive Christianizing of Europe led to the Viking Age. Some Franks high on zeal burn down some Norse temples in lower Denmark and the local Vikings go on a revenge raid or two and figure out that Christian churches are both rich and easy pickings, thus leading to a medieval gold-rush of sorts. At the very least Charlemagne's proselytizing by sword would have raised tensions contributing to Norse aggression. Hahahaha Blaming the Viking raids on Christian aggression? That's a new one.
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Orkin Mang posted:hitler bad Hitler... good?
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