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disjoe
Feb 18, 2011


Isn't there a way to determine mathematically what the best moves are for every map?

And then your time is determined by level up RNG?

Basically what I'm saying is this is terrible

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Cowman
Feb 14, 2006

Beware the Cow





Lid posted:

two hours of watching a turn based strategy in japanese

this is hell

I'm gonna watch the whole thing :getin:

:suicide:

disjoe posted:

Isn't there a way to determine mathematically what the best moves are for every map?

And then your time is determined by level up RNG?

Basically what I'm saying is this is terrible

on that FFT speedruns page I posted earlier there's a separate table for using maths and not using them. In otherwords, yes.

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world


think of all the runs that got cut

and remember this got through, on the first day

e: I smell another mercy kill because characters aren't getting str again

Ahh Yes
Nov 16, 2004
>_>
Still better than that poo poo Kirby garbage
e: okay it's as bad

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

disjoe posted:

Isn't there a way to determine mathematically what the best moves are for every map?

And then your time is determined by level up RNG?

Basically what I'm saying is this is terrible

i think there might be a difficulty with set level-ups, but it's bad either way

disjoe
Feb 18, 2011


Ya'll

He's using the lady on the horse to kill folks

Cowman
Feb 14, 2006

Beware the Cow





Ahh Yes posted:

Still better than that poo poo Kirby garbage

gently caress off crystal shards owned. didn't pay attention to squeak squad but it's better than that

Motto posted:

i think there might be a difficulty with set level-ups, but it's bad either way

why wouldn't you use that for a live speedrun?

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

voltcatfish posted:

e: I smell another mercy kill because characters aren't getting str again

lmao

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

itskage posted:

I would watch it as the last Sunday AM game, just to see how it works and what tricks they use.

Yeah, it'd be a solid pick for the finale game, since Final Fantasy usually has that spot anyway.

I could see a Fire Emblem speedrun being interesting if you know the game, it's probably got some neat setups or exploits. But yeah, if you're not into the game it's a downer shift. I still like them having these sorts of games, though, since it's undoubtedly interesting to someone and sometimes that someone is me.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Is that the same spergy asian guy who was commenting on Monkey Ball or one of the Kirby games earlier?

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world


disjoe posted:

Ya'll

He's using the lady on the horse to kill folks

is he on easy?

if he's on easy then he probably can't lose

The Mattybee
Sep 15, 2007

despair.

Cowman posted:

on that FFT speedruns page I posted earlier there's a separate table for using maths and not using them. In otherwords, yes.

No that means something very different in FFT

Cowman
Feb 14, 2006

Beware the Cow





wait I think I remember watching this guy speedrun before and it went very badly

disjoe
Feb 18, 2011


voltcatfish posted:

is he on easy?

if he's on easy then he probably can't lose

I seem to remember him saying this is on normal.

Cowman
Feb 14, 2006

Beware the Cow





The Mattybee posted:

No that means something very different in FFT

I know mathematician is a class. I was trying to make a joke.

The Mattybee
Sep 15, 2007

despair.

Cowman posted:

I know mathematician is a class. I was trying to make a joke.

I'm the bad joke getter :saddowns:

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



disjoe posted:

Isn't there a way to determine mathematically what the best moves are for every map?

And then your time is determined by level up RNG?

Basically what I'm saying is this is terrible

Some versions of Fire Emblem have a deterministic psuedo-random number generator for combat and every time you move the cursor it increments one position. So you can control it there by moving the cursor around until you're in the value you want. This is also boring to watch, though.

Distant Chicken
Aug 15, 2007
This is hell. This is what hell feels like.

Roflan
Nov 25, 2007

I used to have a vague interest in trying a Fire Emblem; not anymore. My backlog is relieved.

Cowman
Feb 14, 2006

Beware the Cow





The Mattybee posted:

I'm the bad joke getter :saddowns:

it's ok it wasn't a very good one.

fire emblem is actually a very good game but good lord is it horrible for speedrunning. I'm tempted to just watch that prince of persia speedrun sdgq 2015 someone mentioned earlier. was that a good one as in everything went great or a good one as in a hilarious clusterfuck of mistakes?

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Roflan posted:

I used to have a vague interest in trying a Fire Emblem; not anymore. My backlog is relieved.

Fire Emblem is really good but speedruns are basically the worst way to show them off.

If you have a 3DS you should get Awakening and then Fates when its released.

homphgomph
Nov 23, 2007

So that's what that feels like
Well they're having fun at least.

LionYeti
Oct 12, 2008


I'm watching the Prince of Persia SGDQ run instead and its a marked improvement.

LionYeti fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Jan 4, 2016

disjoe
Feb 18, 2011


This is going to make me subconsciously associate Fire Emblem with boredom and hatred, and that isn't fair to the game.

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Internet Kraken posted:

Fire Emblem is really good but speedruns are basically the worst way to show them off.

If you have a 3DS you should get Awakening and then Fates when its released.

those ones are infected with The Anime though

Cowman
Feb 14, 2006

Beware the Cow





LionYeti posted:

I'm watching the Prince of Persia run instead and its a marked improvement.

yea me too. I hope it's a good run. runner is more interesting at least :)

holy poo poo he's getting into history. this is like an informative LP mixed with speedrunning. neato.

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world


Oh I didn't even notice that donation drought

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
I forgot how bad the music in Path of Radiance is.

Motto posted:

those ones are infected with The Anime though

This series has been anime from the start.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Ahh Yes posted:

Still better than that poo poo Kirby garbage
e: okay it's as bad

Its close...

Cowman
Feb 14, 2006

Beware the Cow






which kirby are you talking about the crystal shards one was good

I also played the poo poo outta that game to be fair

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Nice dodge!

Ahh Yes
Nov 16, 2004
>_>
all of the kirby

Cowman
Feb 14, 2006

Beware the Cow





Ahh Yes posted:

all of the kirby

crystal shards owned because the game owned

disjoe
Feb 18, 2011


Is this what chemo feels like

Is AGDQ trying to teach me something

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Think of how many Golf runs Big Jon could have done instead of this

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

- an analysis of speedrunning

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



Oh look they're all saying that their first Fire Emblem game was the very first one North America ever got

WHADDA YA KNOW?!

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
kirby was bad this is worse do something fun

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Distant Chicken
Aug 15, 2007
I feel like we're all watching someone's basement

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