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Angepain posted:The trick is to wander off before they can even ask the question, rookie mistake Or repeatedly refuse to answer the question and then claim that you have answered it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khGa49rM6iM A less favourable media would have spun this interview as Cameron admitting that he was blackmailed by a Saudi government that was threatening to blow up bombs over the UK.
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serious gaylord posted:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...lking-away.html What he actually said to the Telegraph reporter was quote:I'm talking about railways this morning... I'm talking about railways this morning. I'll come to you in a moment on that, ok? I’ll do a separate [answer] on that, if you wish http://i100.independent.co.uk/artic...m_campaign=i100 Which the reporter has decided to interpret as Corbyn "ignoring" it. It just shows, yet again, that it doesn't matter what he does (or doesn't) do, he will not get fair treatment from most of the press, and I'm frankly surprised that otherwise sensible people here are still falling for it.
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can someone confirm or deny with authority whether it is possible to pancake flip saudi arabia with underground nukes? quite possibly a better foreign policy idea that the current government
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baka kaba posted:Are these the British Values I've been hearing so much about?
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dispatch_async posted:Or repeatedly refuse to answer the question and then claim that you have answered it. David Cameron:If we weren't friends with Saudi Arabia THIS MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQbYm2MHLw0
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Jan 4, 2016 14:59
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:The main sticking point at the moment is pay progression. At the moment you get a pay increment for every year you've served. That means if you fail exams and have to extended training or switch specialities you can be paid more then someone more senior to you. The government want that to be changed so you are paid at your grade of responsibility. At the moment though the automatic increment makes up for the fact that there hasn't been a real terms pay rise for years so LTFT trainees and those on maternity leave who've had a pretty good deal under the current system are obviously very anti change Loss of automatic pay progression absolutely is something worth fighting for, if for no other reason than it massively disadvantages women doctors. Having kids essentially requires you to take time out of training and losing the progression would massively widen the gender pay gap. It's also not the case that the government wants 'pay by seniority'. They want 'pay by position'. That means that if you are an ST6 and your trust decides to rotate you into a position where they only need an ST3 to fill the rota, they only have to pay you as an ST3. Ditto if you decide you want to change career paths. If this comes into force you are almost certain to see rotas being changed so that senior doctors are forced to take up a more 'junior' position so that the trust can pay them less. It's all part of a plan to reduce the overall pay envelope even more than it has been already.
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Ken Livingstone was on the World at One earlier saying Benn/Burnham is probably happening. If he can keep the cabinet largely together, try to minimise any moves that could be spun as punitive and come out with something that will at least make him less likely to be disagreeing with shadow ministers on their briefs quite so publicly in future then... it will still be a brutal Stalinist purge by a weak and ineffective leader who, despite being a limp-wristed pacifist vegetarian, will sweep to power and destroy Britain and all its Traditional Values given half a chance, according to our beloved Free Press.
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Instead of saying that it was against the will of the leadership, they'll probably portray is as being against the will of the party membership, which was consulted and came out strongly against the war decision. It's harder to argue that you blatantly voted against the will of your party when you infact did blatantly vote against the will of your party as far as members go.
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XMNN posted:Ken Livingstone was on the World at One earlier saying Benn/Burnham is probably happening.
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I hope the Labour Party find a willing black market surgeon to remove the vocal chords of Ken Livingstone so he can no longer go on the radio or TV & say things.
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forkboy84 posted:"I know it's only been 4 months but Burnham has looked quite good at Home, he's not come out with anything vaguely totalitarian & that seems quite long time for a Home Secretary judging by the past 20 years, Shadow or not". Except for supporting the Snooper's Charter.  Burnham also once alleged Shami Chakrabarti and David Davis were sleeping with each other because they both opposed 90 days detention. Spangly A posted:He has a professional expectation not to abuse a position of authority, he did so. Rochdale just had a major, major paedophile scandal and Danzcuk is sexting teenagers. He's done. They both did. Except in Rochdale white men were also at it, so, you know, the media paid less attention.
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Renfield posted:i thought the exchange started after she applied for a job in the consistency office, so he was in a position of power/trust at the time, regardless of the responsibilities of an MP The legal framework regarding consent refers to a 'position of trust', not a position of power. Being in a position to grant or not grant someone a job does not equal a position of trust, and as such Danczuk did nothing illegal. What went on with his ex-wife definitely does sound illegal however, but I doubt he would ever be convicted of anything. Best case scenario I can see happening is that he's kicked out of Labour and clings to his position as an independent generally hated by everyone until 2020, before instantly disappearing into obscurity to be replaced by a glorious Corbynite.
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jabby posted:The legal framework regarding consent refers to a 'position of trust', not a position of power It'd be worth a laugh if someone pressed charges and he had to go public arguing that an MP is not a position of trust
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Jan 4, 2016 15:34
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Guavanaut posted:I hope they get reshuffled to Bran/Hennbum. might need to tone down the gratuitous sex scenes given their proclivities, though
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Jan 4, 2016 15:35
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TinTower posted:Except for supporting the Snooper's Charter. All that is still pretty good for Home in fairness, though that's more a reflection of how loving dreadful Home seems to be. Who was the last Home Secretary that wasn't repellent? Ken Clarke during the Major years? Or do you have to go back to Roy Jenkins? I can never tell if it attracts arseholes or if it's just the atmosphere of the department which leads people to thinking civil liberties are a extravagance at times of *insert war, threat of war, existential threat, or anything else you need here*.
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forkboy84 posted:All that is still pretty good for Home in fairness, though that's more a reflection of how loving dreadful Home seems to be. Who was the last Home Secretary that wasn't repellent? Ken Clarke during the Major years? Or do you have to go back to Roy Jenkins? I can never tell if it attracts arseholes or if it's just the atmosphere of the department which leads people to thinking civil liberties are a extravagance at times of *insert war, threat of war, existential threat, or anything else you need here*. Probably Clarke or Jenkins, yeah.
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Oh aye, mind how Nigel Farage had an attempt on his life? Well. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...d-a6796071.html  TL;DR The Glorious free market made an attempt on the Non Racist Libertarian party leader's life.
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Think the biggest revelation is that our Nige drives a European car. No wonder it tried to kill him.
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jabby posted:The legal framework regarding consent refers to a 'position of trust', not a position of power. Being in a position to grant or not grant someone a job does not equal a position of trust, and as such Danczuk did nothing illegal. Mind you, isn't this a textbook case of sexual harassment? She played along but as she said in the original story she was looking to get into politics and was in awe of the man. *puts on lab coat and raises clipboard* we need to get to the bottom of this, internet law experts
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"It's just EU Elf and Safety nonsense" He was heard screaming as his car drifted off the cliff side.
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forkboy84 posted:Think the biggest revelation is that our Nige drives a European car. No wonder it tried to kill him.  He could drive a Morgan or something. Or a vintage Morris Minor but those are pretty good and I don't want him associated with them.Tesseraction posted:*puts on lab coat and raises clipboard* we need to get to the bottom of this, internet law experts
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Gonzo McFee posted:Oh aye, mind how Nigel Farage had an attempt on his life? Thanks for the reminder because this was hilarious, but a goon beat him to that discovery.
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You'd think given the week he's had Simon Danzcuk would take a break from blaming Corbyn for everything and of course you'd be wrong. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/04/simon-danczuk-labour-mp-sonia-rossington-will-contact-police-claims-drink-fuelled-bullying quote:Simon Danczuk has accused “Corbynites” and other political opponents of fuelling a protest outside his constituency office in Rochdale in an attempt to gain political capital. I'd say you have to admit the mans commitment but that's clearly not one of his good qualities.
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Guavanaut posted:There are no mass manufactured British cars left though.
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Fans posted:You'd think given the week he's had Simon Danzcuk would take a break from blaming Corbyn for everything and of course you'd be wrong. 
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Baron Corbyn posted:This is so painful, he might well be the least dignified MP we have. A normal person would have had the good sense to resign and at the very least not word this like he was being hounded out of his position by bitter, vindictive exes. Fans posted:You'd think given the week he's had Simon Danzcuk would take a break from blaming Corbyn for everything and of course you'd be wrong. Beaten like a 49 year old MP with a ball gag.
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There aren't many people in this country for whom I feel genuine, unrelieved hatred. One is Kelvin Mackenzie.
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Guavanaut posted:There are no mass manufactured British cars left though. Landrovers and Jaguars are mass produced in Britain or at least it looks that's what's happening in the big factory five minutes walk from me. Fair enough JLR is a subsidiary of an Indian company but the subsidiary itself is headquartered in Britain, so its about as close as you get.
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Tesseraction posted:Thanks for the reminder because this was hilarious, but a goon beat him to that discovery. That's what I get for rolling over posts.
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Guavanaut posted:There are no mass manufactured British cars left though.
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Guavanaut posted:Corbyn Dressed As Sexy Teen To Message Me to be fair, who could say no to Jeremy Corbyn dressed as a sexy teen
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TACD posted:Ha, that happened after I posted in (or started, not sure which) a thread arguing about whether 0.9 recurring is equal to 1 (spoiler: it is). It devolved into a complete frothing cesspool of nerd rage on both sides and I think it was actually bannable to bring it up for a while. A real life friend of mine who's also a goon bought me this so I could always remember <3 How did arguing if 0.999999... = 1 even become a thread? The airplane-treadmill thing at least has some complex engineering in it, but the proof for why 0.99999... = 1 is so simple we were taught it in year 8, and I'm pretty sure its in IGCSE maths, if not GCSE.
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 Metaphorical acts of war, the worst kind of acts of war. Unlike the actual acts of war that Hilary Benn pushed for, which were good.
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Gonzo McFee posted:
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Angepain posted:so uh has it actually been confirmed that he's been demoted or are they just getting pre-emptively outraged over something they've just imagined happening A man from The Sun on Twitter is claiming that Benn might not be demoted at all. "Instead" Lord Falconer will go? Which seems like a non-sequiter. This is an example of the reshuffle being a shambles & not the media being idiots listening to people who don't actually have the leader's ear.
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Angepain posted:so uh has it actually been confirmed that he's been demoted or are they just getting pre-emptively outraged over something they've just imagined happening I don't think anyone finds out until tomorrow, but setting the narrative is all part of the game
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The horse penis guy is "only" getting deported. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-35220941
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Hitler B. Natural posted:There aren't many people in this country for whom I feel genuine, unrelieved hatred. One is Kelvin Mackenzie. Holy loving poo poo. How is this not outright racism. Like not hidden at all.
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Who likes polls? We like polls!quote:Britain Elects @britainelects 27 secs28 seconds ago
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