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I'll go further and say I really don't see any problem with Jake Lloyd's performance. He comes across as a believable nine year old kid trying to please the adults around him. And Amidala is fine in the first one.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:With Force Awakens, it's like "hooray... um, when does the next one come out?" It just ends. It's already done. I'm going to be honest, I almost fell for your trolling and was about to point out how this is one of the worst posts I've ever seen on The Internet.
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Yeah, Jake Lloyd isn't as good an actor as the kids in Game of Thrones or something, but he did fine. I don't really understand why people hated him in particular, I think all the problems people had with him would be present no matter who was cast, because people generally don't like precocious kids in movies.
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I think the terrible acting was largely because of the director and the fact a huge portion of their environments were green-screened. It's one thing to act convincing when a single element is being added in via special effects. It's something else entirely when everything is computer generated. Didn't Ian McKellen lament about all the green-screens on the Hobbit (as opposed to the more practical effects in LOTR)? Maybe actors have developed new tricks to looking convincing when everything is being added in later (i.e. Game of Thrones), but it was all still pretty new back then and it showed. Beeez posted:I think Natalie Portman is the only major actor whose performance seems heavily impacted by her contempt for the production.... She also hates being contractual bound to Marvel movies. You'd think after the prequels she'd know not to get stuck in another franchise.
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Beeez posted:Yeah, Jake Lloyd isn't as good an actor as the kids in Game of Thrones or something, but he did fine. I don't really understand why people hated him in particular, I think all the problems people had with him would be present no matter who was cast, because people generally don't like precocious kids in movies. Jake Lloyd was just a convenient target and I feel really awful for him.
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Jan 4, 2016 19:32
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Krispy Kareem posted:
Curious about this, what is she limited from taking part in aside from other super hero films/franchises? And why does she hate it, she has a minor role in a very successful franchise.
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Krispy Kareem posted:I think the terrible acting was largely because of the director and the fact a huge portion of their environments were green-screened. It's one thing to act convincing when a single element is being added in via special effects. It's something else entirely when everything is computer generated. Didn't Ian McKellen lament about all the green-screens on the Hobbit (as opposed to the more practical effects in LOTR)? Dear god these ideas never die. They have a life of their own!
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Jan 4, 2016 19:38
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Bottom Liner posted:I'm going to be honest, I almost fell for your trolling and was about to point out how this is one of the worst posts I've ever seen on The Internet. Actually, it's a well-written post that is making fun of you.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Actually, it's a well-written post that is making fun of you. It's hard to imagine anyone being particularly upset by being made fun of someone so desperate for attention they frantically post regurgitated Zizek quotes on a comedy website's movie subforum.
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Jan 4, 2016 19:42
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kiimo posted:Unfortunate to see the same stupid arguments spill over into the spoiler thread, is nowhere safe? You can try any other forum on the internet, I think even TBB is usually safe.
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Jan 4, 2016 19:43
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Goddamn, this thread now makes up 100% of my ignore list members. Well done nerds. Watched the movie again last night and got a chuckle out of Rey's first interaction with BB-8 where she mocks his "classified" backstory by saying, "Oh yeah me too, big mystery." JJ is not subtle but he is clever. Also starting to doubt Luke being her father, though no other possibility makes any sense to me.
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Jan 4, 2016 19:52
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I wonder if Snoke was the origin of Vader's spirit "showing Ben the Dark Side". Easy enough to project that vision. You just have to create a Force Proxy.
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I haven't heard of that one before but I agree that I really don't believe the real deal Vader showed himself to Kylo ever, he just wants it too badly.
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Why would Anakin decide to go Sith again as a force ghost? He was a Good Guy when he died. it doesn't make any sense for him to actually be coaching Kylo.
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Many works of art/literature/film explore the nature of good and evil, and that exploration is at the heart of the Star Wars movies, trouble is they're really loving bad at it. That's mostly on Lucas with his poo poo story and writing. The best thing Lucas got right in RotJ was making sure Vader was dead at the end of it. At the last moment Vader had a revalation, or a reawakining or whatever the gently caress you want to call it, but did that one moment wash away all the bad poo poo he did? I mean the dude was a literal mass child murder. Adam Lanza with a lightsaber.
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Blistex posted:Biggest gripe would have to be Captain Phasma. . . what was the point of that character except marketing? I'm wondering if we're going to find out that a lot of her scenes were left on the cutting room floor. The prevailing theory is that she will be disgraced by her actions and spend the next movie or two on a personal mission to kill Finn. Which would be pretty interesting itt.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Why would Anakin decide to go Sith again as a force ghost? He was a Good Guy when he died. it doesn't make any sense for him to actually be coaching Kylo. This is not anything 'canonical' but apparently the art book says that because he turned so close to death his ghost is trapped in some weird in-between state or something like that. There's concept art of a weird skull-like Vader face which is supposed to be Vader's ghost and didn't show up.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Why would Anakin decide to go Sith again as a force ghost? He was a Good Guy when he died. it doesn't make any sense for him to actually be coaching Kylo. The helmet might be strong with the Dark Side the way that Dagobah cave is, or something like that.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Why would Anakin decide to go Sith again as a force ghost? He was a Good Guy when he died. it doesn't make any sense for him to actually be coaching Kylo. All of it is made up by Snoke. Han & Leia's acknowledgment of Snoke's role in turning Kylo amounts to this. All Snoke had to do, whenever he was a publicly known figure / not yet an official bad guy, was hand Kylo a Vader comic book & a copy of The Secret & a treasure map to the Endor funeral pyre. Done.
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ImpAtom posted:It's hard to imagine anyone being particularly upset by being made fun of [by] someone so desperate for attention [that] they frantically post regurgitated Zizek quotes on a comedy website's movie subforum. I agree; that is a strange fantasy. The truth is even stranger.
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Bottom Liner posted:Curious about this, what is she limited from taking part in aside from other super hero films/franchises? And why does she hate it, she has a minor role in a very successful franchise. I think she just soured on it. Her choice for a director on Thor 2 got canned and she probably just didn't think the Marvel universe would be this big or go on this long. Idris Elba reportedly hates his role in Thor as well, although he came back to 'clarify' his quotes and say how much he loved working for Marvel. It's all derivative of Alec Guinness hating his Obi-Wan character because it overshadowed his more serious work.
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Has Idris Elba been overshadowed by his Marvel work? Most people seem to know him for being a sex symbol and shows like The Wire and Luther.
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I didn't even know Idris Elba was in Marvel movies. That's definitely not what he's known for.
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Thor was a pretty crappy movie, so I can understand why anyone who was in it would be grumpy about having to came back and do more of them.
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Maybe they'll get Hayden Christensen back and he'll have to fight himself as Vader. All as force ghosts. And by maybe I mean no way.
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greatn posted:Maybe they'll get Hayden Christensen back and he'll have to fight himself as Vader. All as force ghosts. And by maybe I mean no way. There's an ongoing rumor he's been in training for a cameo of some sort of Episode VIII.
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greatn posted:And Amidala is fine in the first one. Princess Monotone?
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I find it difficult to dislike child actors. The worse they are at acting, the more childlike (and natural) they come across. I only really dislike when a movie exploits the cuteness of a child, or makes terrible use of one, to score points with cunts.
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Red posted:Princess Monotone? Oh my god 
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Sure, she's regal, detached, burdened, frustrated at her lack of agency, she's believable to me.
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Steve2911 posted:I find it difficult to dislike child actors. The worse they are at acting, the more childlike (and natural) they come across. I only really dislike when a movie exploits the cuteness of a child, or makes terrible use of one, to score points with cunts. Force Awakens is kind of interesting for what it eliminates from its universe. There are no children in the film.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Force Awakens is kind of interesting for what it eliminates from its universe. Good. W.C Fields was right.
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2001 and Jurassic Park both have child characters.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Force Awakens is kind of interesting for what it eliminates from its universe. And they vaporized all the politicians lol the "emperor" literally dissolved the senate.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Force Awakens is kind of interesting for what it eliminates from its universe. Are there children in the OT?
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crowoutofcontext posted:Are there children in the OT? Ewoks.
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crowoutofcontext posted:Are there children in the OT? There is one on cloud city for a brief second.
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greatn posted:Sure, she's regal, detached, burdened, frustrated at her lack of agency, she's believable to me. She has no personality or actual character, or any real motivation or reasoning for her decisions or actions. A.) If you watch Auralnauts' Jedi Party, the parody voice goes, in a perfect monotone match: "Thank you, magic trash can." to R2-D2. Her entire character is just being a princess, or a fake princess, depending on the situation. B.) They ask people, in the Plinkett review, to describe her character. No one can come up with anything besides wearing tons of different outfits.
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crowoutofcontext posted:Are there children in the OT? Not unless you count Ewoks. :iamafag:
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crowoutofcontext posted:Are there children in the OT? You mean besides Luke?
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