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Al! posted:Connection to the land? Hell if they had even gone camping a little bit anywhere, they'd know to at least be prepared for cold nights. Just because you(r illegal immigrant ranch hands) work the land, doesn't mean you have any respect or love for it. I mean, just checking the 7-day forecast for your destination is trip planning 101 level stuff, and they couldn't even do that right. "Whoops, the land here is white, not forest-patterned, and my fruit of the loom, 100% cotton, $5 per dozen white gym socks aren't cutting it in subzero weather!"
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They can get started by eating all of the taxidermied migratory birds stored at the headquarters:
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Jan 4, 2016 21:05
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Abner Cadaver II posted:This is gonna get very Oregon Trail very quickly. 
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Spaceman Future! posted:So who is gonna go out and occupy the minor bundy's house while he is occupying the federal building? Or at least you know, burgle the poo poo out of it I bet he left a fortune in guns behind. Robbing a home left empty around the holidays? Sounds like a job for the Wet Bandits.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:06
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ansel autisms posted:They can get started by eating all of the taxidermied migratory birds stored at the headquarters: With all those eggs they're layin', we won't need to eat em.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:07
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:Just so people understand you want cops to storm a building and shoot a bunch of people because they disagree with you politically. Just want to make sure everyone sees your post for what it is. We're not in the same bucket as these folks. Nice try though.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:07
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Here lies Ammon Peperony and chease
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Lotka Volterra posted:Of course. I'm sure that most of us goons that enjoy the outdoors have much greater appreciation for the places these militia idiots say were "stolen" from them than they do, regardless of where we live. I suppose I can see why people living in the boondocks get frustrated with federal land use regulations but I also gather that if we let them go whole hog slaw dog on the Western landscape it would rapidly become barren and dead, losing a range of unique species and, at best, providing several years of meager funding for these idiots before they have no hope at all.
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To be fair, they went Banker and spent all their money on bullets instead of supplies, which was viable in 1848, however in 2016 there aren't any buffalo for these idiots to shoot.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:12
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Seems the Bundys lost another valuable ally: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/oath-keepers-urge-members-back-oregon-standoff-opposite-bundy-ranch
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 BabelFish posted:Update on the Oregon militia standoff: http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/01/twice-sentenced_ranchers_expec.html#incart_big-photo This is going to be the most effortless siege in history.
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Mr Interweb posted:Seems the Bundys lost another valuable ally: quote:the current standoff is being “manufactured by potheads who want a fight” unsurprisingly, all he knows about pot he got from Reefer Madness
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This is going to be the most effortless siege in history. [/quote] While this is funny, it doesn't look like any snow is in the forcast, definitely not enough to prevent pickup trucks from driving around: http://www.wunderground.com/us/or/burns They are pretty temperate year-around looks like. Every month has an average low temp of above freezing.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:18
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Nessus posted:You probably appreciate it for its like, life and beauty and poo poo. These guys just want a chunk of terrain they can claim mineral and water rights from. The sad bit is that evil environmentalists and scientists are incredibly willing to work with ranchers if they're not huge assholes, e.g. this ranch in Utah by Canyonlands. The reason these people find that everyone treats them like poo poo is because they're assholes who think that the land is theirs and theirs only.
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Salt Fish posted:While this is funny, it doesn't look like any snow is in the forcast, definitely not enough to prevent pickup trucks from driving around: Their global warming strategy is starting to pan out.
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Salt Fish posted:While this is funny, it doesn't look like any snow is in the forcast, definitely not enough to prevent pickup trucks from driving around: Entirely possible that it's enough to stop their pickup trucks designed for hauling, not offroading.
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Lotka Volterra posted:The sad bit is that evil environmentalists and scientists are incredibly willing to work with ranchers if they're not huge assholes, e.g. this ranch in Utah by Canyonlands. The reason these people find that everyone treats them like poo poo is because they're assholes who think that the land is theirs and theirs only.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:24
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ansel autisms posted:Entirely possible that it's enough to stop their pickup trucks designed for hauling, not offroading. Never bet against a hick's ability to have a kick-rear end pickup truck.
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Local federal law enforcement, surely?quote:The White House on Monday referred to an armed occupation of a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon as a “local law enforcement matter.” http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/264673-white-house-calls-oregon-standoff-a-local-law-enforcement This seems dumb. Hard to imagine local law enforcement in rural Oregon are equipped to do much of anything, and god forbid they try and it really would turn into a bloodbath.
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Salt Fish posted:Never bet against a hick's ability to have a kick-rear end pickup truck. as a resident of hick country, never underestimate a hick's ability to flip a pickup
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Xandu posted:Local federal law enforcement, surely? If the FBI really has yet to set up a basic circumvallation of these dipshits and their birdwatching fort, I really have to question the competence of every level of the federal response to this.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:35
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CommanderApaul posted:Just got an email that they're closing our federal building in Corvallis, OR due to inclement weather after they were delayed for 2 hours due to ice. It's 5 hours away from Burns, but hopefully these asshats are going to get a nice taste of PNW winter weather later this evening. They aren't in Oregon Valley winter, their in Alvord Desert. The day the protest started it was 6 degrees outside, snowing, and severe winds, they're going to be very very miserable in the coming weeks.
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zeal posted:If the FBI really has yet to set up a basic circumvallation of these dipshits and their birdwatching fort, I really have to question the competence of every level of the federal response to this. A decision like that was almost assuredly made at the highest level and is more likely political than anything else.
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Xandu posted:Local federal law enforcement, surely? If he ends up turning over a NWR to a dozen or so hicks with guns because he cannot muster the will to deal with it, he's essentially saying that all federal lands out West are fair game for these people. I was promised "I don't give a gently caress" Obama for 2016, not this poo poo
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Jan 4, 2016 21:37
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:They aren't in Oregon Valley winter, their in Alvord Desert. They're not in the Alvord Desert - the Alvord is purely within the rain shadow of Steens Mt. They're currently on the southern edge of Malheur Lake.
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Salt Fish posted:Never bet against a hick's ability to have a kick-rear end pickup truck. Are these guys even from Oregon or are they all from out of state? It wouldn't surprise me at all if they all had pickups suited for the Nevada desert and no snow tires between them.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Are these guys even from Oregon or are they all from out of state? It wouldn't surprise me at all if they all had pickups suited for the Nevada desert and no snow tires between them. Out of state and apparently not even requested by the arson ranchers' families
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Xandu posted:A decision like that was almost assuredly made at the highest level and is more likely political than anything else. Like hyping San Bernadino as 'terrorism' while actively avoiding that label for the Charleston shooting?
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Are these guys even from Oregon or are they all from out of state? It wouldn't surprise me at all if they all had pickups suited for the Nevada desert and no snow tires between them. They're almost all from out of state. Nevada desert does get similar snowfall, fwiw.  For some perspective on the people out there, "Narrows" is just a small store and RV park and almost everything else is a junction between roads at best.
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McDowell posted:Like hyping San Bernadino as 'terrorism' while actively avoiding that label for the Charleston shooting? Yes, although I don't love your examples. I would hardly say people were hyping San Bernadino as terrorism until it became abundantly clear they were supporting ISIS. FBI repeatedly refused to make any statements for days on whether or not it was terrorism and a lot of people seemed to think it was just a workplace shooting until that no longer made sense.
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zeal posted:Out of state and apparently not even requested by the arson ranchers' families there's actually controversy over this. the leader of the oathkeepers says that the family doesn't want them there, but bundy responded by saying that the family has accepted their punishment, yet they still support bundy in this action to prevent it from happening to other people. so in short, all of these groups of armed men are completely uncoordinated and have no idea what the gently caress is going on. it's like watching a bunch of nerds from the stolen valor videos trying to run a fighting force.
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Xandu posted:A decision like that was almost assuredly made at the highest level and is more likely political than anything else. I suspect it's trying to tell the militia "We're not impressed. You dipshits aren't worth our time."
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I wonder if the USPS will refuse to deliver mail/packages to a federal facility that is closed. I'd imagine that they'd normally be setup to have mail for the facility held until it reopened in springtime. Could make their "resupply via internet begging" plan even more of a bust.
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For anyone wondering: the unincorporated community of Voltage is definitely not cool enough to deserve that name.
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Xandu posted:Yes, although I don't love your examples. I would hardly say people were hyping San Bernadino as terrorism until it became abundantly clear they were supporting ISIS. FBI repeatedly refused to make any statements for days on whether or not it was terrorism and a lot of people seemed to think it was just a workplace shooting until that no longer made sense. Actually I'm trying to make the point that local offices have some discretion. San Bernadino was as much a workplace shooting as it was terrorism.
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Xandu posted:Local federal law enforcement, surely? I think local law enforcement is very capable of sitting back and watching a bunch of dumbasses become a national laughingstock.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:52
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Why exactly are these men not being evicted? Is there any rhyme or reason to it beyond not legitimizing their dumb movement with a response? They're occupying a federal building, yes? Really feels like there's a law against that somewhere.
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Volkerball posted:Why exactly are these men not being evicted? Is there any rhyme or reason to it beyond not legitimizing their dumb movement with a response? They're occupying a federal building, yes? Really feels like there's a law against that somewhere. Waco, Ruby Ridge, white privilege, are guns, etc.
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Volkerball posted:Why exactly are these men not being evicted? Is there any rhyme or reason to it beyond not legitimizing their dumb movement with a response? They're occupying a federal building, yes? Really feels like there's a law against that somewhere. Yeah why aren't the BLM rushing out to get shot at and die.
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