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Louisgod posted:Is there a specific level I should wait to be at before exploring Sylvalum further? I'm 32 with the most expensive skell, decked out with the most intergalactic weapons a stud like me can get thus far, but I still get wrecked regardless, relegating my travel to hugging the mountainside, hoping nothing sees me. It got to a point where a couple of the FrontierNav sites are guarded by enemies I can't kill. To add to the previous response: Quite a lot of the stuff that will ruin your day in a skell will be content to completely ignore you on foot. Stay away from flowers, shrubbery, odd looking rock outcroppings... basically everything. Actually, stay away from rocks in general, unless you like having a Thallus or an Ictus pop up to ruin your day. An awful lot of those big ugly critters that like sitting on probe points are visual aggro, so you can pick the point up if you're careful and stay behind them. A visial cloaking aug might help, but you can do it just fine without them. The big wide field leading up to Cauldros is relatively safe, and the early parts of Cauldros themselves aren't that bad if the weather's not acting up. The beaches are also surprisingly friendly if you go by water.
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When your she'll is destroyed you get a quick time circle. If you get a perfect you don't lose any insurance, you come out with full health and all your arts at level two. If you get a good you use one insurance and come out with full health. If you fail you lose two insurance and come out with 1 hp
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greatn posted:If you fail you lose two insurance and come out with 1 hp No, you still only lose 1, as far as I can see.
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Jan 4, 2016 23:58
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AI members always get perfect ejects from their skells, so if you have a skell that's running low on insurance, just pass that one off to a party member.
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Jan 4, 2016 23:58
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falling into the abyss doesn't give you a qte prompt :'( also vandham why do you keep calling people eggheads, you were the chief engineer why you frontin'
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If you're going to sylvalum pay attention to the xe-dom patrol routes. They'll ignore you if you're on foot provided you don't accidently hit one, but they have a huge bone to pick with skells. Felt so good when I got a level 50 skell and could finally take one of those fuckers down.
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chumbler posted:Also you kind of have to mix up your party a lot to get some more personality out of them from after battle exchanges and their heart responses to things you say when talking to people. You can hear the after-battle exchanges? I can't, unless I turn the volume up, and then the music during battle is too loud. God the sound mixing in this game is atrocious. I loved that stuff in the first Xenoblade, but after a hundred hours in this one I still couldn't tell you how any of them go. year199X posted:Is there any reason to not be in skells all the time now that I have them? In addition to the stuff about aggro that was already mentioned, you also can't target appendages on smaller enemies if you're in a skell, which could bite you in the rear end later if you want to craft stuff and don't have the materials. Also you'll run out of fuel, which may or may not be an issue depending on how good your FrontierNav setup is, or whether or not you've maxed all the arms manufacturers already
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Louisgod posted:The only character I've found incredibly interesting is Professor B, mostly because of the mythos of the human race and nod to BTTF. I hope he comes back. He comes back in chapter 7 and you want to do that ASAP because he gives you those sweet sweet Gravity Attribute weapons
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Chapter 11 spoilers: "We can't risk damaging the data terminal, so let's let him get away so we can risk damaging the data terminal in a boss fight arena instead." "It's not fair that some people died, so I'll make sure everyone dies!" "Elma, we're on the same side even though he's clearly marked himself as a traitor and tried to kill us!" Then the game takes control of my character and forces me to be as stupid as Lin instead of helping Elma pull the trigger? In the words of Waluigi, "You're Lao Z!" 
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Jan 5, 2016 02:51
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Suspicious Cook posted:Chapter 11 spoilers: I hated that too. The only reason I'd have picked, given the choice, for walking over there is to put a bullet in Lao's head myself. Also remember that moment; It will hurt more later.
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And then when I turn it in they try to paint Irina as coming from the same place? She's never once shown suicidal tendencies and she was even on my team to go hunt down Lao! Please don't disrespect a valued member of BLADE by comparing her to a traitor that literally tried to kill every single human being.
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Jan 5, 2016 02:59
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Suspicious Cook posted:Chapter 11 spoilers: You should play Chapter 12 immediately!
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Suspicious Cook posted:And then when I turn it in they try to paint Irina as coming from the same place? She's never once shown suicidal tendencies and she was even on my team to go hunt down Lao! Please don't disrespect a valued member of BLADE by comparing her to a traitor that literally tried to kill every single human being. Irina is cool and probably the closest the game gets to having someone approaching a reasonable human. I kinda feel like she's more or less the fourth party member, but they didn't want to force a completely static party for the story missions. She is too good for Gwin.
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Suspicious Cook posted:And then when I turn it in they try to paint Irina as coming from the same place? She's never once shown suicidal tendencies and she was even on my team to go hunt down Lao! Please don't disrespect a valued member of BLADE by comparing her to a traitor that literally tried to kill every single human being. Yeah, that really bothered me too. Not only did Irina never show any suicidal tendencies, you also literally have to complete a Gwin affinity mission right before chapter 11 and he never once mentions it to the party then. So that's two steps removed from the player: You don't get too see Irina in action and you don't get to see Gwin coming to Elma because he's concerned about her. Both of these things would have been great character building, and god knows that Gwin needed it, but nope, let's just have Lin mention it once and never have it come up again!
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TurnipFritter posted:you also literally have to complete a Gwin affinity mission right before chapter 11 and he never once mentions it to the party then. Why did I have to do a Gwin quest first, anyway? He didn't have any baring on the story mission at all and the only mentioning of Irina is that he had a crush on her. Maybe that's why she's so depressed. Neddy Seagoon posted:Also remember that moment; It will hurt more later. Looper posted:You should play Chapter 12 immediately! Oh boy, I can't wait.  Chapter 12 will wait for another time. I'm going to clean up the new batch of "talk to this person" quests first. Probably tomorrow.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Apparently because of a dialogue choice in an earlier sidequest Cavern Clan couldn't help Tree Clan defend the East Gate from indigens and a bunch of Tree Clan warriors died as a result. Not to mention the 10,000-year animosity continuing Sooooo what quest was this? I tried to get slovity to help cause we're bros, but she wanted nothing to do with tree clan 
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Sooooo what quest was this? It's a dialogue option in one of Slovity's quests, I can't remember which.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It's a dialogue option in one of Slovity's quests, I can't remember which. So if I had answered in a specific way, slovity would have helped? I haven't completed that quest because I was afraid I hosed something up. She did initially show up offering to help, I think and tree clan was like "FUCKIN CAVERN CLAN EAT poo poo" so she was moping on the ma-non ship. Maybe that's the good way, that she initiated help?
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GreenBuckanneer posted:So if I had answered in a specific way, slovity would have helped? I haven't completed that quest because I was afraid I hosed something up. She did initially show up offering to help, I think and tree clan was like "FUCKIN CAVERN CLAN EAT poo poo" so she was moping on the ma-non ship. Nope, I checked the guide. There's an actual outcome of "Cavern Clan helped, no-one died as a result". Though if you talk to the Tree Clan guy that started the quest afterwards, he does actually say "..We probably should've let them help us...".
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Nope, I checked the guide. There's an actual outcome of "Cavern Clan helped, no-one died as a result". Though if you talk to the Tree Clan guy that started the quest afterwards, he does actually say "..We probably should've let them help us...". Well gently caress. I wish I had known what it was I should have picked. I hope in a year or so there will be a better guide or wiki that lists each quest and what happens for each options. I'll probably replay the game then.
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How do you get to either the extreme east or the very north of Noctilum? I need 30% survey rate there for the next story mission, and the only probes i haven't put down are in those areas.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:How do you get to either the extreme east or the very north of Noctilum? I need 30% survey rate there for the next story mission, and the only probes i haven't put down are in those areas. The one to the East is actually on the coast near the water. You have to have the flight module to get up north and even then at least one of them requires level 5 mechanical. Also, everything up north wants you dead and can accomplish that very easily.
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Does that mean you have to swim to the one in the east?
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:How do you get to either the extreme east or the very north of Noctilum? I need 30% survey rate there for the next story mission, and the only probes i haven't put down are in those areas. Just go loot some Segment treasure chests (the map segments with two sparkles over them) and do some side-missions if you don't have probe sites available.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Does that mean you have to swim to the one in the east? Unless you can find a way to jump over the mountain to it, yes. I think I had the flight module when I went looking for it, though. Neddy Seagoon posted:Just go loot some Segment treasure chests (the map segments with two sparkles over them) and do some side-missions if you don't have probe sites available. This is probably the easiest way to take care of that exploration problem, though.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Just go loot some Segment treasure chests (the map segments with two sparkles over them) and do some side-missions if you don't have probe sites available. I have not been having good lucking finding those, which is why i decided to go for the probes.
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You can swim to the FN on the east coast of Noctilum. Nothing north of the giant waterfall with the things hanging over it is accessible on foot.
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Okay the final affinity missions in the barracks are total bullshit. "Hey want to fight two level 80 things you can't even hit, at the same time with basically no warning when the last fight was just a mere 60 and the level requirement is 58? We sure hope so, because now you're locked into it!"
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chumbler posted:Okay the final affinity missions in the barracks are total bullshit. "Hey want to fight two level 80 things you can't even hit, at the same time with basically no warning when the last fight was just a mere 60 and the level requirement is 58? We sure hope so, because now you're locked into it!" Stack up on XX M-Accuracy's, and focus-fire on one of them with your Skells. G-Busters do decent damage to them. Also the Wrothian Battle Gauntlet is a fun questline. It's a steamroll all the way to the end, even on foot, and then the last guy breaks out his loving Level 90 Skell. I only had one Skell on me at the time and having it appear at the start of the fight was a real "Hahaha... Oh, I'm boned...  " moment.
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chumbler posted:Okay the final affinity missions in the barracks are total bullshit. "Hey want to fight two level 80 things you can't even hit, at the same time with basically no warning when the last fight was just a mere 60 and the level requirement is 58? We sure hope so, because now you're locked into it!" What I ended up doing is getting out of my skell and dying over and over on purpose to lower the difficulty and then fighting them one at a time. They don't aggro unless you hit them, so pull one away and kill it. Just be careful not to aoe the other one, or aoe the first's respawn while fighting the second.
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chumbler posted:Okay the final affinity missions in the barracks are total bullshit. "Hey want to fight two level 80 things you can't even hit, at the same time with basically no warning when the last fight was just a mere 60 and the level requirement is 58? We sure hope so, because now you're locked into it!" Hope you did the Hexad Partican one first, because that thing will wreck them. Mostly. That or farm up an Ares 90.
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Wait, so I need to do Doug and Gwin's second affinity missions to finish the plot? Damnit, now I need to use them for so many side missions to boost their affinity, since they're both at like one heart each. And I was in the middle of getting the C-team's affinity up to. Guess its time to boost the E-team.
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Ashsaber posted:Wait, so I need to do Doug and Gwin's second affinity missions to finish the plot? Damnit, now I need to use them for so many side missions to boost their affinity, since they're both at like one heart each. And I was in the middle of getting the C-team's affinity up to. Guess its time to boost the E-team. Boot Camp only requires one Hart with Gwin.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Well gently caress. I wish I had known what it was I should have picked. I haven't done the later quests yet but during the quest where I had to find Slovity's team I didn't side with her & told her that talking with the Tree Clan guy is more important (so I'll go find her team instead). They seemed to be getting along by the time I got back so maybe that's it?
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kirbysuperstar posted:
Hey that's me! And me! I definitely need to update my shared avatar though, he's gotten a little work done. So, end of game spoilers I finished the game and I'm actually reasonably happy with how they left it. The "there's something weird about this planet..." thing was already coming if you'd been paying attention (aliens all share language, Professor B can't time travel away from Mira, some NPC mentions that human and Ma-non scientists have found that the space around Mira is "smaller" somehow than it should be. Not only that, it's definitely a hook into "keep doing endgame and side missions and stuff to explore the planet, which is the most fun part of the game." I foresaw that Elma was either going to be an AI or an alien with all the references to her mysterious past, so that was pretty natural. Tatsu calling the humans "hom homs" and then grinning at the camera actually got a laugh out of me. I was initially pissed with Lin about Lao but I actually bought her explanation, that if she was told that she could save her family but it turned out to all be a lie, she'd feel incredibly betrayed by the project too. Lao coming back to make amends also helped. I was initially annoyed by Doug being an rear end in a top hat seemingly out of nowhere but then I remembered that he and Lao have been friends and worked together for like a decade so he would have taken Lao's betrayal the hardest. At this point, the only mysteries that look like they have no explanation whatsoever is who "the Great One" is, where the Vita came from and why it was with the Tainted, what the Tainted even were, what Telethia is, who the other alien faction fighting with the Ganglion at the beginning of the game were... We know the Vita is similar in make to the Ares, which Elma brought with her. Maybe some of the postgame answers this. Guess I'll find out because I'm ready to jump in. bloodychill fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Jan 6, 2016 |
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Are there certain Field Treasure things that only show up after you make a given amount of progress? There's a treasure segment in Noctilum near one of the Coil Trees northwest of the Elephant Trunk land bridge and the mini-map is not showing the little yellow square anywhere while I'm in that segment. Also I don't have the game running atm so I can't really be more specific. Anyway, do some of these just not show up right away or am I not looking hard enough?
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bloodychill posted:Hey that's me! And me! I definitely need to update my shared avatar though, he's gotten a little work done. This was aaaaaages ago, so don't fret too much
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Vanrushal posted:Are there certain Field Treasure things that only show up after you make a given amount of progress? There's a treasure segment in Noctilum near one of the Coil Trees northwest of the Elephant Trunk land bridge and the mini-map is not showing the little yellow square anywhere while I'm in that segment. Also I don't have the game running atm so I can't really be more specific. Anyway, do some of these just not show up right away or am I not looking hard enough? If I'm thinking of the right one, try going up. Waaaaay up. The little square doesn't show on the mini-map if you're far above or below it
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Vanrushal posted:Are there certain Field Treasure things that only show up after you make a given amount of progress? There's a treasure segment in Noctilum near one of the Coil Trees northwest of the Elephant Trunk land bridge and the mini-map is not showing the little yellow square anywhere while I'm in that segment. Also I don't have the game running atm so I can't really be more specific. Anyway, do some of these just not show up right away or am I not looking hard enough? Some of the markers don't appear if you aren't on the same elevation as the treasure sometimes, I think
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