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hallebarrysoetoro
Jun 14, 2003

A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

There's one guy commenting on a page amongst a lot more people and then there's another guy singling him out and encouraging raiding of his profile.

its 1 step away from tumblr level doxxing bullshit. You dudes wonder why dnd is the worst forum, it's because your heads are so far up your arses you can't actually see you are exactly the same types of people as the ones you poo poo on, except for your political alignment.

going to need oven mitts to handle that hot of a take

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Xandu
Feb 19, 2006


It's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am.

A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

There's one guy commenting on a page amongst a lot more people and then there's another guy singling him out and encouraging raiding of his profile.

its 1 step away from tumblr level doxxing bullshit. You dudes wonder why dnd is the worst forum, it's because your heads are so far up your arses you can't actually see you are exactly the same types of people as the ones you poo poo on, except for your political alignment.

E: But then again, this is the same forum who thinks what these guys are doing is worse than rioting and burning peoples cars and businesses.

It's a public, high profile page, not even someone's profile. I think posting screenshots of morons' opinions is a pretty low form of discourse, but I don't think it's doxxing and I'm okay with it.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
'So you've been publicly shamed'

There are no private individuals anymore.

Man Whore
Jan 6, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT SPHERICAL CATS
=3



I think this flag is more fitting for this particular situation.

Rhesus Pieces posted:

Here's all you need to know about the militia movement in the U.S.:



"There's a Democrat in the White House? TO ARMS!!"

Uhhh, is there some text off to the side that was cut that explains why the numbers and the size of the bars don't correlate at all or is this some fox news poo poo?

Man Whore fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Jan 5, 2016

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
Besides the silly impotent liberal rage, I don't see anybody actually trying to rally goon justice in here.

ShutteredIn
Mar 24, 2005

El Campeon Mundial del Acordeon
Did anybody post this yet?
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/01/ammon-bundy-oregon-protest-sba-loan

quote:

Ammon Bundy runs a Phoenix-based company called Valet Fleet Services LLC, which specializes in repairing and maintaining fleets of semitrucks throughout Arizona. On April 15, 2010—Tax Day, as it happens—Bundy's business borrowed $530,000 through a Small Business Administration loan guarantee program. The available public record does not indicate what the loan was used for or whether it was repaid. The SBA website notes that this loan guarantee was issued under a program "to aid small businesses which are unable to obtain financing in the private credit marketplace." The government estimated that this subsidy could cost taxpayers $22,419. Bundy did not respond to an email request for comment about the SBA loan.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Knifegrab posted:

So wait I am confused. Are they holding hostages right now?

The birds never asked for this.


Knifegrab posted:

So I take it if we all wait long enough they'll be sad and hungry right?

They are already asking to be resupplied, and didn't fully realise that there is a reason why the BLM site is closed.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Xandu posted:

It's a public, high profile page, not even someone's profile. I think posting screenshots of morons' opinions is a pretty low form of discourse, but I don't think it's doxxing and I'm okay with it.

Scratch Monkey posted:

Cross post from the pic thread

Supposedly found on the Bundy Ranch FB page



The Daniel Brewer in question https://www.facebook.com/daniel.brewer.372

Look at that thug flashing his crazy gang signals! What a deplorable culture of violence that produced him

That's a profile link.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
The best sovereign citizens are the ones who rack up millions in debt because money is an illusion and uncle sam foots the bill.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

McDowell posted:

The best sovereign citizens are the ones who rack up millions in debt because money is an illusion and uncle sam foots the bill.

Pfft. We all know fiat currency is worthless anyhow.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Tokamak posted:

They are already asking to be resupplied, and didn't fully realise that there is a reason why the BLM site is closed.

You would think that as military LARPers they would understand the basic concept of supply lines.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Joementum posted:

Pfft. We all know fiat currency is worthless anyhow.

Might as well make some fraudulent loans to cash in against my berth certificate

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Does it seem ironic to anyone else that justification of the occupation of public assets by armed militia is justified by "they started it!"

Spaceman Future!
Feb 9, 2007

A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

That's a profile link.

youll never stop us gumshoe, weve got all the social medias see. All those publicly available posts, see. And when we link the urls of those publicly available social medias all youse coppers are gonna get mud in your eye, see!

Dude poo poo in the town square, you dont get to make privacy complaints at that point. No one is doing wierd stalkery friending and reporting type stuff this is all publicly viewable.The guy said this poo poo because he wants it seen by everyone, not our fault its dumb fluff he's running up the flagpole.

RuanGacho posted:

Does it seem ironic to anyone else that justification of the occupation of public assets by armed militia is justified by "they started it!"

at this point id be able to settle the situation in my mind if they could actually even give precise demands. At this point all they ve said is give us free land and poo poo and government goes away forever make it happen bitches. I mean, I knwo they havent actually THOUGHT about it, but these are long cold nights they should pow wow and nail down an agenda.

Spaceman Future! fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Jan 5, 2016

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

That's a profile link.

Which you can get from the comment posted on the bundy ranch page. It's not in good taste to post it on the forums, but it's not a hill worth dying on. Especially when the implication is 'look at the other crazy poo poo he is saying', and not 'go cause this guy some grief'. I'm pretty sure the type of people who want to troll constitutionalists already know how to trawl fb groups for public profiles and don't need our 'help'.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
This lack of preparation all makes sense when you look at the camping section of Cabela's. Did you know they have a propane-powered blender? Well they do. Growing up going to REI I was unprepared for an "outdoors" store where the apparent goal is to make the outdoors as much like the indoors as possible.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Spaceman Future! posted:

youll never stop us gumshoe, weve got all the social medias see. All those publicly available posts, see. And when we link the urls of those publicly available social medias all youse coppers are gonna get mud in your eye, see!

Dude poo poo in the town square, you dont get to make privacy complaints at that point.


at this point id be able to settle the situation in my mind if they could actually even give precise demands. At this point all they ve said is give us free land and poo poo and government goes away forever make it happen bitches. I mean, I knwo they havent actually THOUGHT about it, but these are long cold nights they should pow wow and nail down an agenda.

if you want to use that analogy, what he did was say something to someone in the square and then had it recorded without his knowledge and given to people to poo poo on

There's a reason "don't touch the poop" is a saying.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
On NPR a reporter was talking about how the Militia wants to secure the land for all tax paying citizens. They wouldn't let media in though. The reporter said he was a tax paying citizen and the ended up getting him in with Ritzheimer as his escort.

Spaceman Future!
Feb 9, 2007

A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

if you want to use that analogy, what he did was say something to someone in the square and then had it recorded without his knowledge and given to people to poo poo on

There's a reason "don't touch the poop" is a saying.

He yelled something to thousands of people in the square. Into a mic. That was being broadcast worldwide... with free language translation. Where in that is the expectation of privacy you're on about?

Xandu
Feb 19, 2006


It's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am.

A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

That's a profile link.

Lol I just skimmed the screenshot. Yeah, that's probably not something we're going to encourage here, but whatever.

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

There's a reason "don't touch the poop" is a saying.

What does "don't touch the poop" mean? Like, in what sort of circumstance would I warn someone not to touch the metaphorical poop

Astrofig
Oct 26, 2009
Just leave them alone; they're so inbred they'll die within a few years.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

if you want to use that analogy, what he did was say something to someone in the square and then had it recorded without his knowledge and given to people to poo poo on

There's a reason "don't touch the poop" is a saying.

They should killed in an air strike and survivors detained and interrogated, so complaining about citizens using their freedoms to read public information they posted seems especially dumb.

ManlyGrunting
May 29, 2014

Flavahbeast posted:

What does "don't touch the poop" mean? Like, in what sort of circumstance would I warn someone not to touch the metaphorical poop

Basically it means going out and aggrandizing these assholes instead of laughing at a safe distance; actually interacting with them by going and starting arguments or sending them links and whatnot. Basically it means "don't poke at the tiger through the cage" only with angry old white dudes.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Flavahbeast posted:

What does "don't touch the poop" mean? Like, in what sort of circumstance would I warn someone not to touch the metaphorical poop

Safari rules, really. Admire the poop, comment on the poop. Discuss the poop, photograph the poop. Never, ever touch the poop.

For example, when one of your idiot friends posts stupid right wing bullshit on the Facebox don't reply or try to engage them in debate. You won't win and the fact that people are disagreeing with the idiotic posts is just fuel on the fire. You may, however, pilfer the image, bring it here, and make fun of it. Engaging the idiot in debate is one form of poop touching.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.

Flavahbeast posted:

What does "don't touch the poop" mean? Like, in what sort of circumstance would I warn someone not to touch the metaphorical poop

Laughing at something a dumbfuck said which was linked or quoted on the forums is watching the poop. Seeking said person out, in order to gently caress with them directly, is touching the poop. Don't touch the poop, because all you're going to do is get poo poo on your finger. (In this metaphor, the poo poo on your finger is dumbfucks getting pissy and coming into the forums to bitch, or emailing lowtax directly, because stupid people do aggravating things.)

Just enjoy the poop in it's pristine glass bubble, don't reach your finger out.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Safari rules, really. Admire the poop, comment on the poop. Discuss the poop, photograph the poop. Never, ever touch the poop.

For example, when one of your idiot friends posts stupid right wing bullshit on the Facebox don't reply or try to engage them in debate. You won't win and the fact that people are disagreeing with the idiotic posts is just fuel on the fire. You may, however, pilfer the image, bring it here, and make fun of it. Engaging the idiot in debate is one form of poop touching.

Strangely, this approach has never been shown to have any value, whereas annoying right-wingers and driving them to rage and extremism has demonstrable value. As Saint John Boyega said, "bring the baddies out of their hole."

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Share and be transformed. The only frontier that has ever existed is the self.

jerk1000
Dec 3, 2014

quote:

John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 53m53 minutes ago

Ryan #Bundy says he does not recognize the @HarneyCoSheriff as the sole "decider" about leaving, but says they will listen to community.

quote:

John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 51m51 minutes ago

Ryan #Bundy tells @OPB that "This is their county – we can’t be here and force this on them." #bundymilitia #burns cc @HarneyCoSheriff

quote:

John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 49m49 minutes ago

Again, @OPB is told the Bundy family will leave peacefully if the people of Harney County want them to.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
So... Go then?

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005

Al! posted:

You would think that as military LARPers they would understand the basic concept of supply lines.

That's the thing though, they're like kids playing army instead of acting like people who have actually done it. From the guy making the "tearful" farewell video to his kids on why he won't be home for Christmas, to asking for snacks and warm socks, they're doing things that make more sense in the context of spending months overseas on deployment. It's cargo cult stuff. It's also why they're wearing a range of surplus and/or high speed gear instead of just showing up in appropriate civilian clothes.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

Man Whore posted:

Uhhh, is there some text off to the side that was cut that explains why the numbers and the size of the bars don't correlate at all or is this some fox news poo poo?

Not sure what's up with that, found this on SPLC's site:


https://www.splcenter.org/file/1924

And this one:


https://www.splcenter.org/file/10486

Lycus fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Jan 5, 2016

Aves Maria!
Jul 26, 2008

Maybe I'll drown

A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

There's one guy commenting on a page amongst a lot more people and then there's another guy singling him out and encouraging raiding of his profile.

its 1 step away from tumblr level doxxing bullshit. You dudes wonder why dnd is the worst forum, it's because your heads are so far up your arses you can't actually see you are exactly the same types of people as the ones you poo poo on, except for your political alignment.

E: But then again, this is the same forum who thinks what these guys are doing is worse than rioting and burning peoples cars and businesses.

Stop being a big baby and go post somewhere else if you think DnD is a liberal hivemind.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.

Armyman25 posted:

to asking for snacks and warm socks, they're doing things that make more sense in the context of spending months overseas on deployment.

Wait a minute...


Hahaha, holy poo poo you're right. This dude is asking for some loving Operation Shoebox poo poo. He wants people to send him care packages like they do to soldiers on deployment. This just adds an entire new layer of sadness to the whole ordeal, what a loving tool.

unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
High Country News has some excellent, detailed journalism on not just the current mixup, but the whole history of confrontations and conflict relating to land use. My thanks to whomever first posted a link to the public employee harassment story- their site is an excellent resource.

Liberal_L33t
Apr 9, 2005

by WE B Boo-ourgeois

Volkerball posted:

but liberal leet, these guys shot rocket launchers at qurans. they are your extremist allies.

weren't you one of the most prominent voices in the mid-east thread of despair saying that the U.S. and the west should have made an alliance of convenience with Al Qaeda and other jihadists in Syria because they were the lesser of two evils? I would have thought that you would be saying we should make diplomatic overtures to these hick terrorists and give them some weapons because somewhere in America there might be a terrorist group with beliefs one iota more objectionable than theirs.

what makes you love and sympathize with religious extremists trying to create a theocratic state in Syria, but not these particular extremists?

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

if you want to use that analogy, what he did was say something to someone in the square and then had it recorded without his knowledge and given to people to poo poo on

There's a reason "don't touch the poop" is a saying.

SA destroyed the conservative attempt at making a new facebook by flooding it with Hitlers and gay interracial porn.

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!

Liberal_L33t posted:

So yeah, I don't care what all of the buzzkills in this thread advocating minimum use of force say. I will be seriously disappointed if this ends without any shots being fired, because if these terrorists are allowed to end this standoff on their own terms after having declared an armed occupation of a federal building (regardless of whether said building contained any employees at the time it was occupied), then the militia movement will be able to declare victory, just like they did after the first Bundy standoff.

I don't necessarily hope these people or any LEOs actually get shot, but I do sincerely think an exchange of gunfire would be a good thing at this point. A demoralizing surrender at gunpoint after shots are fired would A) ensure that these "3%" terrorists don't get off with a slap on the wrist from some rural shitbag judge who sympathizes with their grotesque cause, and B) the G.O.P. (for whose interests these terrorists are acting as a proxy) would be forced to actually confront this incident in the press and get all their statements about how the #BLM protesters should've been mowed down where they stood thrown back in their face.

Speaking to the "tacticlol" particulars of the situation, since there are no hostages or bystanders I don't see why the feds would need to attempt a forced entry if and when the decision is made that the terrorists need to be forcibly dealt with. If any #YokelHaram takes aim at a federal agent with a rifle, then the feds ought to just hose the place down with automatic rifle fire from extreme range until the terrorists agree to come out with their hands on their heads.

Sounds like a great way to get yourself another OKC bombing, which was retaliation for Ruby Ridge and Waco. Good luck stopping lone wolves. The response the feds are using has evolved for a reason.

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Liberal_L33t
Apr 9, 2005

by WE B Boo-ourgeois

Captain Bravo posted:

Laughing at something a dumbfuck said which was linked or quoted on the forums is watching the poop. Seeking said person out, in order to gently caress with them directly, is touching the poop. Don't touch the poop, because all you're going to do is get poo poo on your finger. (In this metaphor, the poo poo on your finger is dumbfucks getting pissy and coming into the forums to bitch, or emailing lowtax directly, because stupid people do aggravating things.)

Just enjoy the poop in it's pristine glass bubble, don't reach your finger out.

Who cares if they do?

SedanChair posted:

Strangely, this approach has never been shown to have any value, whereas annoying right-wingers and driving them to rage and extremism has demonstrable value. As Saint John Boyega said, "bring the baddies out of their hole."

Agreeing with the latter (feel free to ironically doxx me and touch the poop that is my posts, SedanChair). If literal loving ISIS can have web-pages up regularly posting their propaganda, does Lowtax really have to worry about some jackass emailing him impotent legal threats? And more importantly, if said trolling wasn't directly organized via forum posts, why does Lowtax get a say in the matter even if he is still terrified of frivolous internet lawsuits?

More importantly, those who argue in opposition to "poop touching" (god I hate that term) should be honest and argue from the premise that it's about fears of legal retaliation instead of making a weaselly argument about some kind of mandatory-moral-high-road.

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