USPOL Jan: In the Year of Our Trump 1

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eviltastic: Feb 8, 2004; Fan of Britches

It sounds broader than what I was thinking. Given how much different stuff is mentioned in the article, I'm surprised there's nothing about gun trusts.

e: too slow on the draw with the article, there.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 02:44

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Dolash: Oct 23, 2008; aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,

Good to see Obama saying "gently caress it" and doing what he can on his own, considering how captive Congress is on this issue. He might as well, too, since with a budget passed and someone being elected to replace him in 11 months he doesn't have a lot to lose.

They were going to run on "Obama and Hillary are gun-grabbing Demon-rats!" regardless of what he did, so he might as well do something. Otherwise what's the point of being President?

# ? Jan 5, 2016 02:45

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

Edit ~ these headlines are both from the National Review.

GalacticAcid fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jan 5, 2016

# ? Jan 5, 2016 02:45

Mr Hootington: Jul 24, 2008; I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

RuanGacho posted:

So they're going to pay for that land they're stealing from the public, right?

Why would they pay for taking back property stolen from the public?

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

IT'S TIME... FOR GUN CHAT!!!

These are good and cool.

Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Jan 5, 2016

# ? Jan 5, 2016 02:48

eviltastic: Feb 8, 2004; Fan of Britches

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

IT'S TIME... FOR GUN CHAT!!!

Busted link, you left a quote mark in. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d124_story.html

# ? Jan 5, 2016 02:54

RuanGacho: Jun 20, 2002; "You're gunna break it!"

Mr Hootington posted:

Why would they pay for taking back property stolen from the public?

We are the government. I said this jokingly but now, :dogbutton:

# ? Jan 5, 2016 02:54

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/01/04/3735745/move-vs-oregon-standoff/

Tim Wise, of course, posted this comparison of MOVE back in the 80's and the current situation.

quote:

And 30 years ago, a similar standoff between police and a black anti-government group in Philadelphia played out very differently. Armed members of a fringe liberation group called MOVE were bombed and burned alive for directing their weapons at police. The bombing highlighted the stark contrast in the way cops treat black and white radicals.

Tear gas was thrown into the building to smoke them out. But when someone started shooting back, the officers returned the gunfire with 10,000 rounds. Without knowing how many people were inside, they began throwing explosives at the house. And when nobody came out, they dropped a bomb from a helicopter � setting off a fire that spread to 65 homes and that firefighters were ordered not to put out.

In the end, one woman and one child made it out of the house alive. Five children and six adults were killed.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 03:06

DeusExMachinima: Sep 2, 2012; This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!

Put this loser on ignore immediately!

quote:

�If it does stop one act of violence, this will be worth it.�

"This but for terrorism." ~D. Trump

# ? Jan 5, 2016 03:08

Unzip and Attack: Mar 3, 2008; USPOL May

Remember all those extremely well-thought out laws to combat voter fraud by requiring photo ID? Turns out it's actually about preventing certain people from voting. I for one am shocked.

quote:

Wisconsin Republicans are pushing state legislation that would block local governments from issuing voter ID cards -- which are required at the ballot box under a 2011 law -- even though the locals IDs currently being considered in a Milwaukee program aren't meant to be used for voting.

Republican state Sen. Van Wanggaard and state Rep. Joe Sanfelippo are floating a proposal that would bar cities and villages from issuing any photo ID card, according to the Journal Sentinel. It also would require that any ID issued by local governments to state clearly that it does not meet the state's voter ID requirements. Nor can local government IDs be used for any public benefits program, under the proposal.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 03:09

BloodFeastIslandMan: Jul 30, 2005; What are you doing here?

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

So where are those cops now, and is this going to be a retrial?

It looks like this was a civil trial, the family was seeking 10 million in damages. One of the cops was taken off the streets after the shooting, remains on desk duty. It was his third shooting, second fatal. This article gives a lot more background and info on the trial, that first article is very unclear. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-fatal-shooting-met-20150303-story.html

quote:

The Tribune first disclosed in 2011 that within six months of Pinex's death, Sierra was involved in two other shootings, one of those fatal as well. A video of the shooting from a police dash camera showed Sierra fired his final three shots into Flint Farmer's back as he lay on the ground. Sierra claimed to have mistaken a cellphone Farmer was holding for a gun, but Farmer was unarmed.

After the third shooting, Superintendent Garry McCarthy stripped Sierra of police powers and had him placed on paid desk duty, where he still remains nearly four years later, according to the department.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 03:10

CannonFodder: Jan 26, 2001; Passion’s Wrench

duz posted:

Are you kidding? They live for that kind of thing, or did you never hear about their Combined Operational Load Bearing External Resistance Treadmill?

Oh yeah, I remember that.

I'm just jealous I don't work at NASA

# ? Jan 5, 2016 03:11

hangedman1984: Jul 25, 2012

Salt Fish posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEAJrT8PeOo

Well, this is probably the most xenophobic political ad I've ever seen.

In a sane world this would be an attack ad from an opposing candidate

# ? Jan 5, 2016 03:26

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

Unzip and Attack posted:

Remember all those extremely well-thought out laws to combat voter fraud by requiring photo ID? Turns out it's actually about preventing certain people from voting. I for one am shocked.

This is unreal. Voting rights - a contentious issue in the two thousand and sixteen election here in the heart of the free world.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 03:30

Mc Do Well: Aug 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

The ultimate enemy of globalization is the double standard. All humans will be free and equal, or no one will be.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 03:36

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

A good writeup from The Guardian's Sabrina Siddiqui on the foreign policy squabble between Rubio and Cruz (and to a lesser extent Rand Paul).

Somehow lost in this election cycle has been the fact that Rubio is an insane dipshit.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 03:49

Thump!: Nov 25, 2007; Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!

Paul D. Ryan (R-WI) really needs to drop that D from his name. Every time I see it I have to mentally correct that he's not in fact a Democrat :v:

# ? Jan 5, 2016 03:50

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

Thump! posted:

Paul D. Ryan (R-WI) really needs to drop that D from his name. Every time I see it I have to mentally correct that he's not in fact a Democrat

Easy mistake to make given his heritage.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 03:54

Shakenbaker: Nov 14, 2005; Grimey Drawer

GalacticAcid posted:

A good writeup from The Guardian's Sabrina Siddiqui on the foreign policy squabble between Rubio and Cruz (and to a lesser extent Rand Paul).

Somehow lost in this election cycle has been the fact that Rubio is an insane dipshit.

It's not lost so much as he's surrounded by people who are much louder about it than he is.

A guy I work with is basically what you'd think of as an old school southern Democrat (well aside from the fact he's Jewish :v:

) and he's been voicing his distrust of Rubio a lot lately. Really I haven't heard him say he likes any of the Republican field, but he says that Rubio specifically has sold out. Not sure why he thinks this exactly but it's something he's brought up more than once.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 03:57

icantfindaname: Jul 1, 2008

Rubio might as well be a robot designed to perfectly reflect the ideology of the GOP establishment. And the neocons are still a core part of that establishment, so I don't see why anyone is surprised

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:01

zoux: Apr 28, 2006

GalacticAcid posted:

A good writeup from The Guardian's Sabrina Siddiqui on the foreign policy squabble between Rubio and Cruz (and to a lesser extent Rand Paul).

Somehow lost in this election cycle has been the fact that Rubio is an insane dipshit.

I thought these guys were strongly opposed to Obama's foreign policy.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:04

rscott: Dec 10, 2009

Joementum posted:

http://m.bigskypress.com/missoula/freedom-fighter/Content?oid=2054145&storyPage=4

You missed the best part of the whole thing imo

quote:

"The point is," Payne says, "communism is a utopian society. There is not government in communism. The government is the people. So, in order for that to exist, mankind has to reach a state where he is—where he, as a whole, has the responsibility and the morality to control himself. Self-government. Communism is full self-government. What is this an experiment in, America? Self-government."

Guessing dude hasn't read a lick of Marx but that's a pretty good description of the dictatorship of the proletariat

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:05

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

icantfindaname posted:

Rubio might as well be a robot designed to perfectly reflect the ideology of the GOP establishment. And the neocons are still a core part of that establishment, so I don't see why anyone is surprised

Yep. Christ he's even campaigning under the slogan "New American Century." And he trotted out his foreign policy ideology in Foreign Affairs months ago and the whole thing read like a 2002-era circle jerk.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:08

Rhesus Pieces: Jun 27, 2005

Unzip and Attack posted:

Remember all those extremely well-thought out laws to combat voter fraud by requiring photo ID? Turns out it's actually about preventing certain people from voting. I for one am shocked.

This poo poo is obvious to anyone paying the least bit of attention, but unfortunately not enough people are doing that.

This is how it works in every state ramming through new voter ID regs since 2011: implement increasingly stringent photo ID requirements for voting, then actively prevent those likely to vote Democrat from obtaining photo IDs. Driver's licenses and gun permits? Fine! Free ad hoc photo IDs offered by urban municipalities to access polling places and public services? Nope! Even though such a government certified photo ID would prevent the basically unheard of crime of in-person voter fraud, because obviously that's not what these laws are for.

They might as well drop all pretense and call these laws the "prevent urban liberals from voting" acts.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:09

FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

FCKGW posted:

http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/oregon-terrorists-dont-plan-siege-very-well-put-out-plea-for-snacks-and-supplies--ZJglh9sRjx

Send them sugar free haribo gummies.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:13

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

Matt Bruenig, the leftist writer and policy analyst, has an interesting interview up on his site with an out of work, soon to be homeless Trump / Cruz supporter fighting to get disability benefits from the Social Security Administration.

It avoids a condescending tone and paints a humanizing picture.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:25

Rhesus Pieces: Jun 27, 2005

FAUXTON posted:

Send them sugar free haribo gummies.

Someone really needs to do this.

Put them in a camouflage bag labeled "Special Ops Tactical Energy Gels" and they'll be eating them by the handful.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:33

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:37

Islam is the Lite Rock FM: Jul 27, 2007; by exmarx

Sir Tonk posted:

God Bless America. :911:

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:40

Epic High Five: Jun 5, 2004

GalacticAcid posted:

Easy mistake to make given his heritage.

They used to lean this strongly Republican until 2004 weirdly enough!

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:40

Sir Tonk: Apr 18, 2006; Young Orc

Just send them jugs of the old standard.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:44

FCKGW: May 21, 2006

Trump Ad Fact Checked for Border Footage, Campaign Says 'No poo poo'

quote:

LOWELL, Mass. - Donald Trump may have some explaining to do about footage used in his new campaign advertisement.

Released Monday, the much-anticipated TV ad shows people rushing towards a border fence as the narrator says Trump "will stop illegal immigration by building a wall on our southern border that Mexico will pay for." But that footage is of a Spanish enclave in Morocco, Politifact has found.

The footage actually shows Moroccans crossing the border into Melilla and was shown on Italian network RepubblicaTV in May of 2014.

The Trump campaign plans to air the ad in Iowa and New Hampshire, so far buying $750,000 in the Hawkeye State and $500,000 in the Granite State, according to NBC News. This is Trump's first televised ad of the cycle, previously saying he didn't need them because ads on top of all of the media attention would make people "OD on Trump." However, with less than a month until the Iowa caucus, Trump has set a budget of $2 million per week to ensure victory in early states.

Asked about the video, Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski told NBC News, "No sh-- it's not the Mexican border but that's what our country is going to look like. This was 1,000 percent on purpose."

Lewandowski later emailed a statement that said, "The use of this footage was intentional and selected to demonstrate the severe impact of an open border and the very real threat American's face if we do not immediately build a wall and stop illegal immigration. The biased mainstream media doesn't understand, but Americans who want to protect their jobs and their families do."

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:46

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Salt Fish posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEAJrT8PeOo

Well, this is probably the most xenophobic political ad I've ever seen.

I like how they didn't turn off comments.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:48

Slate Action: Feb 13, 2012; by exmarx

FCKGW posted:

Trump Ad Fact Checked for Border Footage, Campaign Says 'No poo poo'

I wonder how much Trump would have to lie before he got in trouble for it.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:48

saintonan: Dec 7, 2009; Fields of glory shine eternal

Slate Action posted:

I wonder how much Trump would have to lie before he got in trouble for it.

We've only got ten more months to figure it out, we may never get there.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 04:55

i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

gradenko_2000 posted:

I like how they didn't turn off comments.

Mister Metokur 38 minutes ago (edited)
17,000 dislikes? Jeb Bush would gladly take those, then at least someone would have watched his lovely tv ads.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 05:21

Mc Do Well: Aug 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

gradenko_2000 posted:

I like how they didn't turn off comments.

Turning off comments is antidemocratic.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 05:21

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

zoux posted:

Well here's Marco Rubio's feet from today:

Oh man.

Drudge: RUBIO, WIFE EQUAL HEIGHT?

# ? Jan 5, 2016 05:43

Oracle: Oct 9, 2004

haveblue posted:

She's just floating a trial balloon for when she reverses a controversial Obama decision.

Man, if Obama doesn't go down as one of the top three presidents ever he will have been robbed.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 05:45

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.

Radbot posted:

It is cute. It reminds me of simpler times when conspiracy theories revolved around Greys and not jet fuel melting steel beams.

What about jet fuel melting alien Greys?

:xcom:

# ? Jan 5, 2016 05:52

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Chokes McGee: Aug 7, 2008; This is Urotsuki.

Is... is it just me? She is taking jabs at the Benghazi hearing stuff with the talks about "committees" in there, right?

I mean I see posts going "wtg Hillary just say something dumb why don't you" and I feel they're completely missing the context. I'm not overthinking things, right? :ohdear:

# ? Jan 5, 2016 06:20

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