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MrKatharsis
Nov 29, 2003

feel the bern

potee posted:

My mother once spent thousands of dollars on a horse psychic.

Bookmarked for next year's Wonderhanger nomination.

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SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.

potee posted:

Horse masseuse is only the tip of the iceberg. My mother once spent thousands of dollars on a horse psychic. At least the masseuse touches the loving horse.

Wow do I hate horses

:vince: oh god drat

CombatInformatiker
Apr 11, 2012

potee posted:

My mother once spent thousands of dollars on a horse psychic.

Would that be a psychic horse or a psychic human who contacts dead horses? Because the first one would make for a pretty cool TV show. Maybe the horse could be actually psychic and pretend not to be, kind of like Psych but the other way around. And with a horse.

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.

Literally like Moolissa, crapping out portents

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


:stonk:

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/crime/n-powerball-winner-boyfriend-posts-12m-bond-article-1.2483060

quote:

A North Carolina Powerball winner’s boyfriend posted a $12 million bond Friday in his fourth time getting bailed out since her jackpot, according to reports.

Lamar (Hot Sauce) McDow, 31, is accused of arranging a street race Saturday, and police said he was arrested Tuesday for violating the terms of his pre-trial release on earlier charges, WECT-TV reported.

McDow’s live-in girlfriend, Shallote resident Marie Holmes, collected an $88 million lump sum payment after taxes for winning a $188 million jackpot in February. Her beau walked free on a $3 million bond weeks later and got out of jail on a $6 million bond in August.

JayKay
Sep 11, 2001

And you thought they were cute and cuddly.


GWM: The bail bondsman who's getting probably 10% of the bail as a fee.

Marijuana Nihilist
Aug 27, 2015

by Smythe
Dailynews has some idiot garbage writers

sparkmaster
Apr 1, 2010
Mr. Hot Sauce is GWM for getting bailed out with millions that aren't his.

Dwight Eisenhower
Jan 24, 2006

Indeed, I think that people want peace so much that one of these days governments had better get out of the way and let them have it.

JayKay posted:

GWM: The bail bondsman who's getting probably 10% of the bail as a fee.

People with $88mm liquid cash don't need bail bonds.

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

SlapActionJackson posted:

He's engaged in a form of investing that is little more than legal internet roulette. The Casino (aka his broker) is no longer offering him the most favourable terms for his bets and he's pissed about it.

Apparently his broker offers zero spreads to new account holders. They can bet that XYZ stock will end the day above or below a threshold of $X. If you pick the right direction, you win $85 on a $100 bet.
He is no longer being offered zero spread. If he wants to bet on XYZ stock, he has to pick above $X+Z or below $X-Z. If the sock finishes between $X+Z and $X-Z he loses no matter which direction he picked.

This isn't really explaining things very well at all. You're description is implying:

Before: Dude can bet $100 market will be above or below some number and if it is he wins $185, if not, he loses the $100.
After: Dude can bet market will be above some number, if it is, he wins. Or he can bet market will be below some number, if it is he wins.

This doesn't seem to change anything and in no way explains what the relevance of spread is since the best is a binary yes or no.

Admittedly, dudes explanations don't seem to make any sense for me either.

Is the change (your value Z) implying that his bet must be some amount greater or less than the current value of the market?

Ok, googled "bet spread" instead of "investment spread" and see that my reading here seems true. Which makes sense cause dude is really betting and not all investing.

pr0zac fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Jan 5, 2016

BallerBallerDillz
Jun 11, 2009

Cock, Rules, Everything, Around, Me
Scratchmo

pr0zac posted:

This isn't really explaining things very well at all. You're description is implying:

Before: Dude can bet $100 market will be above or below some number and if it is he wins $185, if not, he loses the $100.
After: Dude can bet market will be above some number, if it is, he wins. Or he can bet market will be below some number, if it is he wins.

This doesn't seem to change anything and in no way explains what the relevance of spread is since the best is a binary yes or no.

Admittedly, dudes explanations don't seem to make any sense for me either.

Is the change (your value Z) implying that his bet must be some amount greater or less than the current value of the market?

Ok, googled "bet spread" instead of "investment spread" and see that my reading here seems true. Which makes sense cause dude is really betting and not all investing.

Before: will USDvSAR finish above or below 7.5

Now: will USDvSAR finish above 7.65 or below 7.3

It's like adding a bunch of green zeros to a roulette wheel when someone is only playing black or red.

Blinkman987
Jul 10, 2008

Gender roles guilt me into being fat.
The gambler doesn't want to pay his vig / the juice to place his bets.

Edit: When you bet on a sports game with a bookie, you're often not betting $100 to win $100. The house wants its cut. You're betting -110, so $110 to win $100 (so, $210 total should your bet come through). And the other people on the other side of the bet lost their $110. It's common for bookies/sites to compete aggressively on the juice in order to attract bettors.

Blinkman987 fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jan 5, 2016

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.

Am I understanding this incorrectly, or was this person actually literally gambling on the performance of stocks, rather than investing in the stocks themselves?

slap me silly
Nov 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Not a Children posted:

actually literally gambling on the performance of stocks
That's it!

Dwight Eisenhower
Jan 24, 2006

Indeed, I think that people want peace so much that one of these days governments had better get out of the way and let them have it.
Binaries are pretty much universally unregulated by the SEC so it's like painting a big "Scam Me!" target on your back.

berzerker
Aug 18, 2004
"If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all."

Not a Children posted:

Am I understanding this incorrectly, or was this person actually literally gambling on the performance of stocks, rather than investing in the stocks themselves?

Welcome to day trading.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

SlapActionJackson
Jul 27, 2006

pr0zac posted:

Is the change (your value Z) implying that his bet must be some amount greater or less than the current value of the market?

It's important to realize in this situation that the casino gets to pick the values of both X and Z. And by doing so strategically they can make it arbitrarily hard for him to win the bet.

So in the zero spread scenario, there is a 100% chance that the bet is winnable (you just have to pick the right direction). Once spread enters the picture there is a <100% chance one side or the other wins and a >0% chance the house wins no matter which direction you bet.

SlapActionJackson fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Jan 5, 2016

Sepherothic
Feb 8, 2003

Slightly offtopic : The Big Short

This movie was like GWM personified.

some_weird_kid
Mar 16, 2004

My popcorn is cautiously and provisionally RDY
A colleague at work had mentioned at a happy hour that he is paying on student loans that total $300,000. The good news for him is that he's turned his schooling into a well-paying job. Judging from his position and experience, I'd place him somewhere around $150,000 salary, in a field where yearly bonus can add $50-80,000 more. So a huge debt load, but with that pay check it shouldn't be too bad to pay it down aggressively and climb out in a similar time frame as people with a lot less debt. But it doesn't stop with student loans. He also mentioned that his mortgage is in the neighborhood of his student loans, so add another $300,000. Wow that's a lot, but still - pulling in $200,000+ in a year should make payments reasonable, and I can't fault the guy for buying a house. He also drives a Mercedes, but it's not a brand new year so maybe he got a good deal on that. He mentioned that he was just about to clear his final car payment, so I guess he must have financed it, but at least he's paying things off! And then he mentioned that, since he was going to have a bit more to play with each month with the car payment gone, he was in need of a winter car. Sure, I get it. That Mercedes is your baby, and it's fairly low to the ground, so I can see it not being great in the winter. A separate winter car is probably overkill, since we're at the very bottom of the mid-Atlantic states, where we get more than 2 inches of snow maybe once or twice a year, but he was talking about a beater Jeep Cherokee, so paying $4,000 for some added safety and to keep your Mercedes away from the salt is practically nothing with that paycheck.

A month or two later, we're getting into winter - still not a single flake of snow here, but it's cold outside. Making conversation about the weather, I asked whether he had any success with finding his winter car, and he had a funny story. He started out looking for that old beater Jeep Cherokee, but realized that if he's going to get a Jeep, then why not go with the Wrangler and then he can do all sorts of fun stuff with it as well, and make it even more worthwhile? But then he realized that with a used Jeep Wrangler, you never know how much abuse someone has put it through, so if he's going to buy one then he might as well go with a new one rather than having to worry about whether a used one is going to fall apart. I started having finance-related heart palpitations at this point in the story. But he followed this logic through two or three more steps and, long story short, he ended up with a brand new Audi...with the full trim package...for what is ostensibly a winter car. It still hasn't snowed this year.

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.

Dalael posted:

Dear GF,

I know you want a house, and I know we are close to having a down payment for one, but oil price is really loving low right now, and I would like to use part of that money to invest. Its just a matter of time before the price goes back up and we could more than double our money. I do not feel like that would be gambling our money away as you put it. I was too broke to invest in gold a few years back when I saw low prices. I was also too broke to invest in oil in 2008 when the price plunged. I am NOT broke at the moment and I really wish we would take advantage of this opportunity. I know you think investing is for people who are already rich, but its not true. This would be a smart investment if you are willing to hang in there for a year or two. Why must you always be so difficult?

I posted this once in the thread already, but I was browsing through my post history looking for something in particular when I re-found this one. It was posted around December of 2014. Brought me a chuckle.

Hope this guy didn't follow through on it, since the price of crude has fallen nearly 50% since this post. Of course, that just means that now is definitely the time to buy! :D

Not a Children fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jan 5, 2016

big shtick energy
May 27, 2004


Not a Children posted:

I posted this once in the thread already, but I was browsing through my post history looking for something in particular when I re-found this one. It was posted around December of 2014. Brought me a chuckle.

Hope this guy didn't follow through on it, since the price of crude has fallen nearly 50% since this post. Of course, that just means that now is definitely the time to buy! :D

Buying in to peak oil* and being completely, startlingly wrong about it was helpful for driving home the lesson that one can't predict the future.

*by peak oil I just mean the idea that production peaks and oil stays pretty expensive, not all the wacko mad max type stuff

the talent deficit
Dec 20, 2003

self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture





Not a Children posted:

I posted this once in the thread already, but I was browsing through my post history looking for something in particular when I re-found this one. It was posted around December of 2014. Brought me a chuckle.

Hope this guy didn't follow through on it, since the price of crude has fallen nearly 50% since this post. Of course, that just means that now is definitely the time to buy! :D

if he didn't buy oil he probably bought a house, so he's hosed either way

Merrill Grinch
May 21, 2001

infuriated by investments
I only talk with "Jim" once or twice a year, thank god; he has all the personality of a cheese grater with none of the redeeming features. The last time we spoke during the summer he once again tried to sell me on becoming a day trader like him in what spare time I have instead of "being a drain on my family by playing videogames".

Saw him again at a New Years' party last week and now he's broke and broken, asking for financial advice on how to provide for his children because he lost his shirt in the market and then proceeded to burn through his entire 401k daytrading, early withdrawal penalties and all.

I remembered the Making Money Online thread here and started telling him about getting paid for transcribing video in his spare time.

"I would never lower myself to helping a disabled person," he told me, and left in a huff.


Bonus punchline: It was a church party.

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe

some_weird_kid posted:

A month or two later, we're getting into winter - still not a single flake of snow here, but it's cold outside. Making conversation about the weather, I asked whether he had any success with finding his winter car, and he had a funny story. He started out looking for that old beater Jeep Cherokee, but realized that if he's going to get a Jeep, then why not go with the Wrangler and then he can do all sorts of fun stuff with it as well, and make it even more worthwhile? But then he realized that with a used Jeep Wrangler, you never know how much abuse someone has put it through, so if he's going to buy one then he might as well go with a new one rather than having to worry about whether a used one is going to fall apart. I started having finance-related heart palpitations at this point in the story. But he followed this logic through two or three more steps and, long story short, he ended up with a brand new Audi...with the full trim package...for what is ostensibly a winter car. It still hasn't snowed this year.

Not bad but I'm hoping for some sort of payments/credit card disaster to follow.

Merrill Grinch posted:

I only talk with "Jim" once or twice a year, thank god; he has all the personality of a cheese grater with none of the redeeming features. The last time we spoke during the summer he once again tried to sell me on becoming a day trader like him in what spare time I have instead of "being a drain on my family by playing videogames".

Saw him again at a New Years' party last week and now he's broke and broken, asking for financial advice on how to provide for his children because he lost his shirt in the market and then proceeded to burn through his entire 401k daytrading, early withdrawal penalties and all.

I remembered the Making Money Online thread here and started telling him about getting paid for transcribing video in his spare time.

"I would never lower myself to helping a disabled person," he told me, and left in a huff.


Bonus punchline: It was a church party.

The master day trader believes he's above helping people.

My understanding of 401k loans is that the intention was for providing cheap finance say to help buy a house. Yet I've never heard of a 401k loan being used for this purpose in BFC.

Devian666 fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Jan 6, 2016

Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.

Devian666 posted:

My understanding of 401k loans is that the intention was for providing cheap finance say to help buy a house. Yet I've never heard of a 401k loan being used for this purpose in BFC.

That's within the realm of possibility for my future plans.

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.

Merrill Grinch posted:

"I would never lower myself to helping a disabled person," he told me, and left in a huff.

Karma is a dumb concept but things like this really make me hope it's real

Not a Children fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Jan 6, 2016

Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.

Not a Children posted:

Karma is a dumb concept but things like this really makes me hope it's real

I don't even understand it as being a thing. I could get not wanting lower yourself to help the homeless, recovering addicts, people on welfare, etc (not accept it, just at least get it) but helping the disabled is lowering one's self in.. anyone's eyes?

Merrill Grinch
May 21, 2001

infuriated by investments
I didn't even have any kind of response because my brain basically shut down trying to make any kind of sense out of that. I...wait, what?

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


Merrill Grinch posted:

"I would never lower myself to helping a disabled person," he told me

This explains a lot about his financial decisionmaking process if you think about it

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

Devian666 posted:

My understanding of 401k loans is that the intention was for providing cheap finance say to help buy a house. Yet I've never heard of a 401k loan being used for this purpose in BFC.

The reason BFC does not generally advise 401k home loans is that many, many people do not use them responsibly, and often use them to buy more house than they can actually afford.

Doesn't mean that 401k home loans are always BWM, they are just a financial tool like anything else. But like any tool it can be used or abused, and in this case a lot of people out there fall into the latter.

balancedbias
May 2, 2009
$$$$$$$$$

pig slut lisa posted:

This explains a lot about his financial decisionmaking process if you think about it

:master:

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

pig slut lisa posted:

This explains a lot about his financial decisionmaking process if you think about it

Well I suppose his attitude extends to emotional cripples, given how he refuses to help himself.

Switchback
Jul 23, 2001

Hey I wasn't done talking about animal psychics.

This woman only charges $65 for a 20 minute animal reading.

Here you can get a 15 minute phone session for only $40 where she will ask your pet questions and give you answers!

Higher end animal psychics run for $135 for a 30 minute session but "this goes by very fast," so you may actually want the $750 three hour session.


HOLY HELL THERE ARE DOZENS OF THESE PEOPLE.



E: similarly my kooky friend has a 3 hour "mind massage" service available for the low low price of $5,997! (link removed)

Switchback fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Jul 25, 2016

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


Switchback posted:

Higher end animal psychics run for $135 for a 30 minute session but "this goes by very fast," so you may actually want the $750 three hour session.

A $60 discount for a longer session? I'm practically making money!

kidhash
Jan 10, 2007

pig slut lisa posted:

A $60 discount for a longer session? I'm practically making money!

Invest in equuity

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
no money down and we'll throw in a free horse psychic consultation

Prince Turveydrop
May 12, 2001

He was a veray parfit gentil knight.
The pet psychic testimonials are great.
http://thepetpsychic.com/testimonials-pet-psychic/

quote:

I also wanted to tell you that you said that my younger cat expressed that I should have a walking stick with me on the property. I should have taken her advice more seriously because the next day the rooster attacked me.

quote:

A few weeks ago my cat Whiz Bang told you that he had pain in his neck. He visited a chiropractic vet yesterday and she showed me where he was very tight. She did acupuncture and an adjustment and it is easy to feel the difference in his neck and upper back muscles. He loved it!
This vet is in Dallas and she uses a local animal communicator to help her get a better patient history from her animal patients.

Also, my horse-bully, Kenya, is improving. Last weekend she did not chase or threaten the other horses in the pasture when I was at the polo club. And there were no marks on her pasture-mates!! Usually there are bite marks or scrapes from when she terrorizes them.
Thanks for all your help in initiating such terrific changes for my animals! The horses are getting along more peacefully and Whiz Bang is pain-free!
Trying to imagine how you practice chiropractic and acupuncture on a cat.

SiGmA_X
May 3, 2004
SiGmA_X

Sepherothic posted:

Slightly offtopic : The Big Short

This movie was like GWM personified.
Book, and its a grand true story.

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BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

Every time I see this stuff I get so frustrated that I'm not making money off this.

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