Magic the Gathering Appreciation Station

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standard.deviant: May 17, 2012; Globally Indigent

Molybdenum posted:

there's always ghost quarter. Pop their karoo with the untap and bounce triggers on the stack

Two problems there: it's an on-board solution so they know it's coming, and all it does is put you down a ghost quarter and them down a karoo, so they could just do it again the next turn and you're in the same position.

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Count Bleck: Apr 5, 2010; DISPEL MAGIC!

Angry Grimace posted:

They have learned nothing. Nothing.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 14:49

AlternateNu: May 5, 2005; ドーナツダメ！

So, remember me posting about Scapeshift and Serra's Sanctum yesterday?

:stare:

# ? Jan 5, 2016 14:57

jassi007: Aug 9, 2006; mmmmm.. burger...

kizudarake posted:

My question is: are they really that likely to kill Amulet Bloom this time, or is it people just grousing about combos?

They just reprinted a bunch of amulet bloom pieces in MM2015, in the bounce lands and the Primeval Titans, and it's obviously not super overpowered, as it's only 5 percent of the field for all of 2015, only 5 percent for the last two months, and isn't being adopted by large swaths of the player base.

It's a good deck, yeah, but it's not the most oppressive deck. You can't just give copies to 8 people and send them out to win 8 tournaments without a shitload of practice.

My thought on it is like this.

1. the Development side of R&D are pro players. They trust them to judge/fix power level of the game.

2. Multiple experienced pro's who have played the game for some time, many of whom have either acknowledge job offers for R&D (LSV) or probably have been offered one, have said the deck is to good.

That isn't the most solid basis in the world to expect a ban, but it makes sense to me. The deck isn't rampant because it isn't as easy to play as some other stuff. Sequencing and triggers and decisions on what to tutor for give it multiple points where a player can screw it up. If you make all the right decisions the deck is gross.

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Irony Be My Shield: Jul 29, 2012

I am very down with flying Swiftspear.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 15:11

Molybdenum: Jun 25, 2007; Melting Point ~2622C

AlternateNu posted:

So, remember me posting about Scapeshift and Serra's Sanctum yesterday?

Tron is on the rise and I believe scapeshift has a pretty good tron matchup, right?

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dragon enthusiast: Jan 1, 2010

I want to live the BW Vampallies limited dream

# ? Jan 5, 2016 15:25

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Irony Be My Shield posted:

I am very down with flying Swiftspear.

UR Aggro, can it be real?

Can we get there?

# ? Jan 5, 2016 15:31

Entropic: Feb 21, 2007; patriarchy sucks

Angry Grimace posted:

The tiny little knife Furiosa there has got seems appropriate given the only equipment we've seen so far is Bone Saw.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 15:33

Irony Be My Shield: Jul 29, 2012

There's also Stoneforge Masterwork at rare.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 15:38

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dragon enthusiast posted:

I want to live the BW Vampallies limited dream

I hope they synergize with Innistrad vampires into something constructed playable.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 15:39

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Irony Be My Shield posted:

There's also Stoneforge Masterwork at rare.

Very quickly I read that as mystic

# ? Jan 5, 2016 15:41

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Count Bleck posted:

UR Aggro, can it be real?

Can we get there?

I would absolutely love a UR tempo/aggro deck

maybe an even lower to the ground jeskai tempo/prowess deck featuring mentor/new man o' war/mantis rider as highest CMC creatures

# ? Jan 5, 2016 15:46

Entropic: Feb 21, 2007; patriarchy sucks

I'm hopeful that more of the archetypes are actually playable this time around. A card like Baloth Null would have gone a long way toward making the BG sacrifice deck actually playable in BFZ.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 15:48

Logicblade: Aug 13, 2014; Festival with your real* little sister!

BG needed more decent commons to actually build the meat of the deck. I'm just hoping green gets there for limited, but we've only seen a few commons so far.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 15:51

Algid: Oct 10, 2007

Molybdenum posted:

Tron is on the rise and I believe scapeshift has a pretty good tron matchup, right?

It's extremely good when I last tried it.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 15:52

Fingers McLongDong: Nov 30, 2005; not eromenos; Fun Shoe

AlternateNu posted:

So, remember me posting about Scapeshift and Serra's Sanctum yesterday?

How do you think the price memory will hold on the serra's sanctum in particular? I got my other three over the last few months for under $30 and put off getting the last one when they went up over 30, now the cheapest one anywhere is CFB at $40. I'm tempted to buy it in case they correct the price to match the market but I don't exactly need it immediately.

Eh nevermind the $40 is hp, sp is $45 and $50 for NM.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:03

Hellsau: Jan 14, 2010; NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

The Real Foogla posted:

Weaons Trainer looks cyberpunk as heck. Wait no, dungeonpunk. Also where is he standing, what are those clouds doing.

I think those clouds are just the artist not wanting to bother drawing a background.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:18

Chill la Chill: Jul 2, 2007; Don't lose your gay

Hellsau posted:

I think those clouds are just the artist not wanting to bother drawing a background.

This is gonna be like sovereigns of the lost all over again.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:24

Irony Be My Shield: Jul 29, 2012

quote:

Inverter of Truth

{2}{B}{B} Creature - Eldrazi

Devoid, Flying

When Inverter of Truth enters the battlefield, exile all cards from your library face down, then shuffle all cards from your graveyard into your library.

6/6

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:27

Entropic: Feb 21, 2007; patriarchy sucks

Logicblade posted:

BG needed more decent commons to actually build the meat of the deck. I'm just hoping green gets there for limited, but we've only seen a few commons so far.

Obviously too soon to say anything yet. The single green common we've seen so far is a good one though:

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:30

Zoness: Jul 24, 2011; Talk to the hand.; Grimey Drawer

Irony Be My Shield posted:

Inverter of Truth

{2}{B}{B} Creature - Eldrazi

Devoid, Flying

When Inverter of Truth enters the battlefield, exile all cards from your library face down, then shuffle all cards from your graveyard into your library.

6/6

Holy poo poo I love this.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:30

Entropic: Feb 21, 2007; patriarchy sucks

Irony Be My Shield posted:

Well that's a super cool and interesting card that's never going anywhere as long as Relic of Progenitus exists. I mean unless the combo is Lab Maniac or something.

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mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

Irony Be My Shield posted:

this is a weird as hell card but I like it

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:33

distortion park: Apr 25, 2011

Irony Be My Shield posted:

For a second I thought that this was incredible in limited but now I'm not even sure if it is playable. It gets absolutely wrecked by bounce...

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:35

Rip_Van_Winkle: Jul 21, 2011; "When life gives you ghosts, you make ghost-robots"

I think this is a philosophy we can all aspire to.

Is this new? I don't recognize it.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:35

Entropic: Feb 21, 2007; patriarchy sucks

Rip_Van_Winkle posted:

Is this new? I don't recognize it.

If only the tokens were Allies. :negative:

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:36

TheKingofSprings: Oct 9, 2012

Rip_Van_Winkle posted:

Is this new? I don't recognize it.

This is the worst loving flavour text jfc

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:38

Zoness: Jul 24, 2011; Talk to the hand.; Grimey Drawer

TheKingofSprings posted:

This is the worst loving flavour text jfc

Flavor on the card makes no sense either. You'd presume a vampire makes things by like, eating someone, but the ally isn't consumed.

Does she like pull out a rib/arm/leg from the other ally and alchemize a zombie out of that or something.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:39

Nibble: Dec 28, 2003; if we don't, remember me

Hellsau posted:

I think those clouds are just the artist not wanting to bother drawing a background.

Seriously that is some bad art. Vague nonsensical clouds to obscure the lack of background, nothing really interesting about the focus of the piece, plus it's a Weapons Trainer with the single weapon depicted being smaller than a butter knife.

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mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

the flavor text on this is so bad it wraps around to good

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:40

Entropic: Feb 21, 2007; patriarchy sucks

mandatory lesbian posted:

the flavor text on this is so bad it wraps around to good

lol this is our Searing Spear for the coming Standard.

I can't decide if I'm relieved or disappointed that the flavour texts don't all combine to make the text of a single cheesy Oath.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:41

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

oh and i guess sorcery speed lightning strike that can't hit players is what red gets now at rare

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:41

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Irony Be My Shield posted:

There is going to be some silliness involved with this card in some format. That effect is hella unique.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:42

TheKingofSprings: Oct 9, 2012

mandatory lesbian posted:

the flavor text on this is so bad it wraps around to good

So this is how they make red walkers playable

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:42

Rip_Van_Winkle: Jul 21, 2011; "When life gives you ghosts, you make ghost-robots"

I think this is a philosophy we can all aspire to.

The rare slot sure does have some great stuff that I will inevitably get every time I open a pack.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:42

Lancelot: May 23, 2006; Fun Shoe

the ETB is okay, but lolll that is the worst loving planeswalker trigger

even if you manage to play two planeswalkers (!) you only get one ping

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:43

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# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:44

TheKingofSprings: Oct 9, 2012

Lancelot posted:

the ETB is okay, but lolll that is the worst loving planeswalker trigger

even if you manage to play two planeswalkers (!) you only get one ping

Are you misreading the card or am I? That trigger seems really good to me.

Rip_Van_Winkle posted:

The rare slot sure does have some great stuff that I will inevitably get every time I open a pack.

I've never seen a card that looked so fake before.

# ? Jan 5, 2016 16:45

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mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

Rip_Van_Winkle posted:

The rare slot sure does have some great stuff that I will inevitably get every time I open a pack.

This is gonna be so cool in the one game my deck manages to assemble the combo

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