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Up Circle posted:By taking advantage of the natural human desire to help out idiots who deserve what they get? yes that's clearly the only reason anyone would ever get ruined by a packmaster 
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I can't imagine the fates gathering four people stupid enough to wipe to a gas rat cloud, honestly.
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Jan 5, 2016 01:01
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Geight posted:I can't imagine the fates gathering four people stupid enough to wipe to a gas rat cloud, honestly. They do enough damage on nightmare and cataclysm that having to break formation to run into a horde when you were holding out will absolutely kill you.
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Jan 5, 2016 01:02
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Gestalt Intellect posted:They do enough damage on nightmare and cataclysm that having to break formation to run into a horde when you were holding out will absolutely kill you. Perhaps you should master the tactics of "move and attack" before playing on those difficulties.
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Psion posted:yes that's clearly the only reason anyone would ever get ruined by a packmaster Can you list others pleease? It's for a project I'm doing on computers.
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Jan 5, 2016 01:08
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Gestalt Intellect posted:
please don't denigrate the honor of a skaven by implying he has any
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Jan 5, 2016 01:16
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Geight posted:I can't imagine the fates gathering four people stupid enough to wipe to a gas rat cloud, honestly. Having one land in a running elevator is one of the finest things that can happen in this game.
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Jan 5, 2016 01:41
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Skandranon posted:Having one land in a running elevator is one of the finest things that can happen in this game. Okay yeah that would be pretty funny and also kill everyone
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Jan 5, 2016 01:49
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Skandranon posted:Having one land in a running elevator is one of the finest things that can happen in this game. Little guy earned his victory dance when he did that.
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Jan 5, 2016 01:51
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2 loving months and they haven't fixed the audio for firearms? Jesus Christ.
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Jan 5, 2016 02:32
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Geight posted:Perhaps you should master the tactics of "move and attack" before playing on those difficulties. Move and attack quickly while maintaining a formation good enough to not get murdered by cataclism spawns with blurred vision is non-trivial. All of those things are very doable, it's doing all of them at once reliably that can cause wipes.
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Jan 5, 2016 06:07
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I'm really not getting the gun audio thing, everything sounds exactly the same to me and my friends as it always has.
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Jan 5, 2016 06:26
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Was on the last two sacks of wheat & chaff on nightmare, and the dwarf gets killed like 10 feet away from us. I run over to help him and get huntered. Elf and solder take one look at me, decide it's not worth the zero effort to shoot the hunter, and grab both sacks and run to the coach. Die right outside it. To the same loving hunter. It's like poetry.
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Jan 5, 2016 06:56
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The most infuriating part of the packmasters is that when trying to mark them for your teammates to shoot, it allows you to mark the guy being dragged as well. Even though the person being dragged is already highlighted red, sometimes it will just switch it to blue if you mark them instead of the threat. It's a small issue, but it irritates the gently caress out of me.
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Jan 5, 2016 08:04
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Is there a thread for just warhammer lore? After getting this game I am now incredibly hooked on the lore (especially witch hunters)
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Jan 5, 2016 12:55
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Umbreon posted:Is there a thread for just warhammer lore? After getting this game I am now incredibly hooked on the lore (especially witch hunters) Seconded, although I did play a little bit of Warhammer in my younger days (more accurately, painted them badly and never really played). The flavoring and atmosphere in this game is really good, and after 100 hours played I'm still hearing new incidental dialogue. Does it ever get revealed what Kerillian's secret mission is?
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The impression I got was that she was exiled for some kind of fuckup/taboo she committed. Weren't her and Bardin just working as mercs for Saltzpyre when all the poo poo went down?
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AndroidHub posted:The impression I got was that she was exiled for some kind of fuckup/taboo she committed. Weren't her and Bardin just working as mercs for Saltzpyre when all the poo poo went down? I thought Kruber was the mercenary. Gonna assume she was exiled for hitting fellow elves with the Hagbane bow. edit: I also like how I can be carrying a group of pubbies on nightmare, but on cataclysm I'm the weakest link and have to re-learn the game. If any EU goons want to join up for some NM or Cata, or need help on other difficulties, feel free to add me on Steam. Account name "ravnblod". ElectricWizard fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Jan 5, 2016 |
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Kerillian was exiled, and woke up from a huge week-long bender with one helluva an elf-drug hangover to find that the ratpocalypse has happened. Kruber and Bardin have served together I believe though I'm not sure in what capacity. Kruber was returning from a tour of duty when Saltzpyre enlisted his aid as a bodyguard to help transport the ~*~dangerous criminal~*~ Fuegonasas to her trial, though he is one of the not completely fanatical Witch Hunters and has no problem working with non-humans/magic users to fight a common enemy.
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e: ^yeah that, took too long typing this on mobile I guess. Kruber was a lone survivor of a squad from the Imperial army after some chaos motherfucker used some magic that killed everyone except him, he was going to get redeployed straight back into the fight but he ran into Saltzpyre who took pity on him since Kruber was worried about his family back on their farm and wanted to go see them, and so Saltzpyre commandeered him as the Witch Hunters can do to help transport the 'potentially dangerous' Sienna to Ubersriek. You can find out what happens to his family and such in a couple conversations when he and Saltzpyre are in the party together. Possibly based on difficulty as I remember when the game just came out he was still talking about going to look for them when he has the time, but on Nightmare it's... different.
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Umbreon posted:Is there a thread for just warhammer lore? After getting this game I am now incredibly hooked on the lore (especially witch hunters) Basically Games workshop poo poo all over Warhammer Fantasy war with the End Times stuff and now the game we are playing literally doesn't exist. None of the things that are in this game are in the current version of Warhammer fantasy. Lore wise the Witch Hunters are actually fairly tame. They just go around hunting unauthorised Magic Users. That's about it. They are just total bad asses.
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Kitchner posted:Basically Games workshop poo poo all over Warhammer Fantasy war with the End Times stuff and now the game we are playing literally doesn't exist. None of the things that are in this game are in the current version of Warhammer fantasy. I thought Witch Hunters were the sort that would rather execute a small village to be sure than let a single heretic live?
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Martout posted:I thought Witch Hunters were the sort that would rather execute a small village to be sure than let a single heretic live?
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Martout posted:I thought Witch Hunters were the sort that would rather execute a small village to be sure than let a single heretic live? Some are, some aren't. They are the experts in witchcraft so if they declare someone a witch who will argue? So some sort of just execute anyone who they can contrive as being a witch, but others actually hunt down real witches only.
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Asehujiko posted:That would be their 40k cousins, Inquisitors. They nuke planets if they see somebody having the sniffles because of Nurgle infestation. Actually they don't really use exterminatus against daemons because it's ineffective (as they don't die) and it may give them ideas.
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Pretty much a lot of 40K is Fantasy stuff taken up a thousand notches. Fantasy you still get some people trying to be reasonable on at least some level often enough, which is what's always made the setting more interesting to me at least. That and I dunno, Fantasy has always had some extra degree of charm to it, they've got my favorite depiction of orcs, the dwarves are cool, the Empire and the counties that make it up are neat, I can even get into some elf history in Warhams Fantasy. And meh, even if GW decided to be giant jerks, there's still plenty to read and play with the setting if you're interested. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Jan 5, 2016 |
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Kitchner posted:Basically Games workshop poo poo all over Warhammer Fantasy war with the End Times stuff and now the game we are playing literally doesn't exist. None of the things that are in this game are in the current version of Warhammer fantasy. So will Total War: Warhammer use the old Warhammer Fantasy, or have they removed all the cool stuff? Just spent an hour trying to do White Rat on cataclysm. Very hard, but fun when you manage to complete parts of it. Still haven't gotten past the ogre though.
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ElectricWizard posted:So will Total War: Warhammer use the old Warhammer Fantasy, or have they removed all the cool stuff? It's set in the previous usual period of Warhammer Fantasy, before The End Times, so yeah it should be pretty neat I'd like to hope. ~New~ Fantasy is "Age of Sigmar" so unless a big expansion or sequel comes, all good there.
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Kitchner posted:Actually they don't really use exterminatus against daemons because it's ineffective (as they don't die) and it may give them ideas. Dawn of War involves a number of Exterminatus orders being executed against planets for Chaos corruption.
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ElectricWizard posted:Does it ever get revealed what Kerillian's secret mission is? It's implied that she has been subjected to A Terrible Curse of some kind, and can break it by killing a shitload of rat mans. Her eyes are solid black (this is unusual and implies bad magicks), the burn wizard mentions sensing some magic life energy dissipating every time the elf kills a rat, and many of the elf's comments are vociferously geared towards racking up a kill count, and getting unreasonably angry when someone takes or 'steals' all the rat-kills, e.g. 'leave some for me, assfoot.' Despite being the most concerned with counting kills of everyone else, she doesn't express any especial grudge towards rat-folks, or motivation for helping humanity, or motivation for even thwarting the rat war. As a cursed elf, she has probably had some dark prophetic foresight visions, and was probably in the area anticipating a shitload of rats to kill for curse reasons.
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Martout posted:I thought Witch Hunters were the sort that would rather execute a small village to be sure than let a single heretic live? One of the really big differences between a Hunter and a 40k Inquisitor is that a Hunter doesn't actually have unlimited authority. Saltzpyre is a member of the Order of the Silver Hammer, a militant order of Sigmarites, and as such he's subject to the authority of the church and of his own superiors within the order. He also wouldn't normally have troops assigned to him unless he could convince a local lord or mayor with evidence that he needed some roadwardens or State Troops, or paid out of pocket or expense account for some mercs (like Kruber). If a Hunter thinks they need a village burned to the ground, they have to actually make a case for it, usually to the people who own the village. This means instead of having endless authority like Inquisitors and their own private armies, Hunters like Saltzpyre usually acquire small core groups of regular buddies to help them investigate and take care of smaller problems, then use the evidence they gather to convince others to commit more troops if there's a real emergency. Some Hunters are even secular, not actually paid by or beholden to a specific church but rather entirely to the state. People are still scared shitless of Witch Hunters, but it's less because they worry the guy (or gal) will burn down their entire village on a whim and more that if one is poking around, it's a sign some bad poo poo is going down and you don't want to get in it. Witch Hunters are awesome and Saltzpyre is a really good indicator of how they are.
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I may be crazy but are Kruber's shields broken as hell? I miss 90% of all power attacks at any range, and it only hits once in a while.
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ElectricWizard posted:Does it ever get revealed what Kerillian's secret mission is? Things specified in dialogue or loading screen text: She wandered into a spooky part of an already spooky forest where only wood eleven mages should go. She has visions of the end times. She keeps count of rats killed. Some magic thing happens when she kills rats. The rest is inferred from that: It is very odd for a wood elf to be an in imperial city, suggesting the exile. The rat counting and magic suggests it's related to her condition. She may have come to the city because she anticipated the skaven attack from her visions.
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Lunethex posted:I may be crazy but are Kruber's shields broken as hell? I miss 90% of all power attacks at any range, and it only hits once in a while. Shields have a bug where when you have a speed potion on, your charge attacks just sort of stop connecting (you won't get the hit X or do damage). I very rarely get this at other moments, but without a speed potion most of the time it's fine. Shachar posted:The rest is inferred from that: She was exiled for her condition of being a turbo rear end in a top hat
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Gestalt Intellect posted:Shields have a bug where when you have a speed potion on, your charge attacks just sort of stop connecting (you won't get the hit X or do damage). I very rarely get this at other moments, but without a speed potion most of the time it's fine. My particular shield & sword had Swift Slaying on it. Explains it, then.
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Gestalt Intellect posted:She was exiled for her condition of being a turbo rear end in a top hat If you want some real assholes, we need a dark elf on-board. Even though it's kind of ridiculous to hope for, I'd like to hope eventually we get another character or couple and we can get some weird ones goin.
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Night10194 posted:One of the really big differences between a Hunter and a 40k Inquisitor is that a Hunter doesn't actually have unlimited authority. Saltzpyre is a member of the Order of the Silver Hammer, a militant order of Sigmarites, and as such he's subject to the authority of the church and of his own superiors within the order. He also wouldn't normally have troops assigned to him unless he could convince a local lord or mayor with evidence that he needed some roadwardens or State Troops, or paid out of pocket or expense account for some mercs (like Kruber). If a Hunter thinks they need a village burned to the ground, they have to actually make a case for it, usually to the people who own the village. This means instead of having endless authority like Inquisitors and their own private armies, Hunters like Saltzpyre usually acquire small core groups of regular buddies to help them investigate and take care of smaller problems, then use the evidence they gather to convince others to commit more troops if there's a real emergency. Man, this is the kind of poo poo I'm talking about. I could read poo poo like this all day, is there like a wiki or an archive I can find to read more warhammer fantasy lore like this?
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Umbreon posted:Man, this is the kind of poo poo I'm talking about. I could read poo poo like this all day, is there like a wiki or an archive I can find to read more warhammer fantasy lore like this? http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Warhammer_Wiki
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Umbreon posted:Is there a thread for just warhammer lore? After getting this game I am now incredibly hooked on the lore (especially witch hunters) There's the Warhammer Fantasy thread. I'm sure they/we would appreciate someone talking about when Warhammer wasn't (as) stupid. Or you can dehumanize yourself and face to the Bad Thread.
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