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Cowman posted:and the single digit fps Whoever designed TMNT decided that you needed to have at least half a dozen enemies on screen at once at every single moment, NES memory be damned.
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Random Stranger posted:A tool assisted speedrun could read the random seed and find the best one for them, but given that the seed should be rotating thousands of times a second I'm dubious that the trick is anything more than a misperception ("It wasn't there... I must have messed up the exact timing at the beginning.") The TAS:ers usually reverse-engineer this sort of thing, since they This doesn't immediately mean that the pause stuff does anything but the value could be set some global timer early on that's vaguely manipulatable, I dunno. Games are weird.
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symbolic posted:I awaken. Prince of Persia was pretty good saihttam posted:This is cool and good 
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Random Stranger posted:A tool assisted speedrun could read the random seed and find the best one for them, but given that the seed should be rotating thousands of times a second I'm dubious that the trick is anything more than a misperception ("It wasn't there... I must have messed up the exact timing at the beginning.") You have to realize that the NES hardware and algorithms were not advanced enough to make really good pRNG. So given that you are quick enough (and speedrunners have been doing 1 frame tricks pretty consistently) and know when to press start, it's not outside the realm of human ability.
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This guy has the lungs from hell, I don't know if he's stopped talking once since he started playing.
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lol this game is beatable in less than 20 minutes, my god
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That guy should've had a donation incentive to take a breath at some point because goddamn!
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Nihilarian posted:Strider was a fun five minutes. Strider
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even hitler hates cancer $88 from HH fyi
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Anyone got a link to the Strider run since the reddit page isn't in the OP.
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Random Stranger posted:Right. One of the jumps was impossible on the PC. I remember beating TMNT on PC though? Maybe the EU version was different.
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What's the song that's playing right now?
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Xerophyte posted:The TAS:ers usually reverse-engineer this sort of thing, since they That's my point. Most NES games are updating their random seed constantly and given how inconsistent he said the trick was it makes me think that it's just a matter of remembering the times he got lucky and downplaying the times he didn't. So while a TAS could pull it off, it's not really feasible for humans since that seed at the start is being changed thousands of times a second. There's a lot of cruft and lore that assembles around these things that isn't totally true and unless Konami did something really weird with their random seeding (which is possible), I think this is one of those cases.
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Dunban posted:What's the song that's playing right now? "We Love Burning Town" on the Game Boy Color Unless you meant the previous song, in which case idk sry!!!!
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symbolic posted:I awaken. The Tony Hawk's Underground 2 run won me over by the 7th "some BODY", and by the 10th time I had transcended my mortal form. I am now a ghost riding through the internet.
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Rirse posted:Anyone got a link to the Strider run since the reddit page isn't in the OP. They are all on reddit so check there.
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Random Stranger posted:That's my point. Most NES games are updating their random seed constantly and given how inconsistent he said the trick was it makes me think that it's just a matter of remembering the times he got lucky and downplaying the times he didn't. So while a TAS could pull it off, it's not really feasible for humans since that seed at the start is being changed thousands of times a second. There's a lot of cruft and lore that assembles around these things that isn't totally true and unless Konami didn't something really weird with their random seeding (which is possible), I think this is one of those cases. It works if you carefully arrange your chicken bones on the floor and fast for at least 12 hours beforehand, I hear
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The Ninja Gaiden runs always impress me with how drat precise the runners are. The race (last year I think) was amazing.
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Double Bill posted:I remember beating TMNT on PC though? Maybe the EU version was different. I read into it, and it was fixed for the EU version.
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Crain posted:Why are there 3 ninjas on screen? Ninja magic.
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Crain posted:Why are there 3 ninjas on screen? They are shadow clones that also do damage and you can position them strategically.
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Crain posted:Why are there 3 ninjas on screen? He's using the mystical ninjutsu art of kage bunshin, duh. Also, gently caress birds.
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I should really be sleeping rather than further destroying my sleep patterns, but I'm too in love with Ninja Gaiden.Crain posted:Why are there 3 ninjas on screen? I think they're called "shadow clones", they basically copy your movements and attacks, allowing for quick kills if you set it up right.
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Random Stranger posted:That's my point. Most NES games are updating their random seed constantly and given how inconsistent he said the trick was it makes me think that it's just a matter of remembering the times he got lucky and downplaying the times he didn't. So while a TAS could pull it off, it's not really feasible for humans since that seed at the start is being changed thousands of times a second. There's a lot of cruft and lore that assembles around these things that isn't totally true and unless Konami did something really weird with their random seeding (which is possible), I think this is one of those cases. There's also the counter-myth that the random number generator is changing "thousands of times a second." NES hardware runs at 60 FPS at most and within that, there isn't a guarantee that the value it reads in memory for their random number generator algorithm has changed frame by frame. And on reset, the values are initialized to some consistent value otherwise this method would not have nearly as high a success rate, even if it is less than 50% according to the runner.
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Crain posted:Why are there 3 ninjas on screen? Turns out the canonical Ninja Gaiden sequel is actually 3 Ninjas Kick Back, who knew I watched the Game Center CX episode about this game a while back and let's just say that playthrough went a bit differently.
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Cowman posted:I've never played a Ninja Gaiden game but it looks fun I guess and really hard. I don't understand what's going on. NG2 is hard as gently caress and this dude is totally tooling it. Using the birds for damage boosts is downright cheeky, since they're notorious for knocking normal people off the platforms.
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Rirse posted:Anyone got a link to the Strider run since the reddit page isn't in the OP. https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/3z9fyi/agdq_vod_thread_2016/
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Ninja Gaiden runs always impress me, those games are bullshit.
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Well done, Mr. Poopins
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Ireeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeene
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Did I hear that right that NG3 is going to be pacifist? Holy poo poo
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Ooh, next run is NG3 Pacifist? If you haven't seen it, you probably should.
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They should really ditch some of the longer, less popular runs in favor of a bunch of sub 30 minute NES runs. I would love to see more NES, SNES, Genesis runs in general.
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The Gameboy Mario music is reminding me of these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IshD3P9vaT8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmw4lzjEqD8
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Dias posted:Ninja Gaiden runs always impress me, those games are bullshit. Yeah. Kid me beat NES Turtles. Kid me definitely didn't beat Ninja Gaiden, because Ninja Gaiden is ridiculous. I try to convince myself that Shadow of the Ninja/Blue Shadow was the cooler NES ninja platformer, but deep down these effortless runs make me feel very nerd-inadequate.
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