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Zyphoid posted:I have to agree with Skoll on the SRM front, with the sole exception being space dad. Space Dads up close punch tactics and syncing with AC 20 timing for twisting makes it the best for the sub 100 knock your teeth in game. All other mechs do better with srm 4 due to aforementioned firing rate + lower spread. I like a crow with uac 5 and srm 4+ artemis. Lots of range option, relatively cool and lots of BANG BANG for scaring lights and making people torso twist. Maurader with lasers + 2x srm4+artemis is incredibly fun as well. SRM 4 + Artemis is just better if you are firing out to the end of the range of the weapon. I also like the Timber Wolf with 4 SRM6A and 4 SPL, but I haven't tried with SRM4A yet so that might work better
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I love playing assaults and I use them pretty much exclusively. The best feeling ever is taking your 100 ton murder man, walking around the corner, finding some pubbie in his precious Timberwolf and absolutely obliterating them under a cloud of SRMs and AC20 salvos. Their panic is almost palpable.
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Pattonesque posted:Dire Wolf with the right omnipods can fit six CUAC/5s Zenny wants
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Marauder can do trip ac 5's well on a heavy IS mech. Mauler can do 4 uac5, 5 ac5's, or my personal fav 3 ac5 and 1 ac20. Banshee with 3 ac5 + mpl is also a murder beast. The best ballistic mechs IS side have both cooldown and projectile speed. Makes it WAY easier to hit things reliably. I'm tempted to try some ac 2 builds like the blackjack with 2x ac2 and like 5 med lasers but haven't tried it yet.
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Kazvall posted:The biggest "tip" for piloting an assault is to just play one for hours. I can sit here and talk about situational awareness and poo poo but you only get that through dying over and over. If you're not learning a lesson each time you die, you're not dying hard enough. Part of this is actually taking the time to think about why you died and what you could have done differently. If you want to get real absurd with it write down how you died and what things lead to it. Theres plenty enough downtime between matches to do this and you may as well try to improve your robutting. This isnt a silver bullet though. You also need to have played enough to reckognize that poo poo you do earlier has an effect later in the match. Also, solo dropping makes things harder because you're so frequently stuck following the decisions of the pubbie herd, YMMV there. I want to do a write up on some of the more obscure mechanics and crap that isn't well documented, but it is easy to overexplain poo poo like missle tracking that more basic and important poo poo might get buried. Can anyone who has started recently (or anyone else for that matter) PM me questions they have/had that were useful to know?
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Coolwhoami posted:Part of this is actually taking the time to think about why you died and what you could have done differently. If you want to get real absurd with it write down how you died and what things lead to it. Theres plenty enough downtime between matches to do this and you may as well try to improve your robutting. one thing that is important to consider in an assault (especially in an Atlas) is that sometimes you will have a low-damage game where you die first and the fact that you did so won the game for your team
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I spectated a locust going 164 last night. Can all of them go that fast or just one specific variant?
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Bait and Swatch posted:I spectated a locust going 164 last night. Can all of them go that fast or just one specific variant? all of them, I believe. Locusting pretty much requires the max XL 190 engine
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Willfrey posted:The one true Direwolf build is 2 Gauss, 2 LPL, 3 ML. No way, 2 ac10 4 UAC2 supremacy.
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Pattonesque posted:Dire Wolf with the right omnipods can fit six CUAC/5s http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=173&l=47c0604d81a13b3567cf5394dcf54e2a947470c3 Boy, do I wish I had 15 million C-bills right now. e; Zyphoid posted:or my personal fav 3 ac5 and 1 ac20. 
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Pattonesque posted:one thing that is important to consider in an assault (especially in an Atlas) is that sometimes you will have a low-damage game where you die first and the fact that you did so won the game for your team Quoted for truth. Unless it's a complete roll, you are most likely going to die shielding your team in an Assault. That is what you're there for, to soak up damage.
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Skoll posted:Quoted for truth. Unless it's a complete roll, you are most likely going to die shielding your team in an Assault. That is what you're there for, to soak up damage. And that's totally okay but some people will give you poo poo for not doing enough damage Learning how to twist and fire is harder on a fatty, you really need to time your shots
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Skoll posted:Quoted for truth. Unless it's a complete roll, you are most likely going to die shielding your team in an Assault. That is what you're there for, to soak up damage. the way new players should think of it is this -- say you lead a push in an Atlas and take 15 seconds to die. Sounds lovely, but in those 15 seconds you've probably been able to kill or cripple an enemy 'mech, and if your team follows you they have probably been able to focus down another enemy 'mech. So you die, and your team is up two or three to one, and that's all she wrote.
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If only there were a medium that could fit something like 5-6 AC-2s so it wouldn't cost me Assault prices to get a dakkamech. 
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Pattonesque posted:the way new players should think of it is this -- say you lead a push in an Atlas and take 15 seconds to die. Sounds lovely, but in those 15 seconds you've probably been able to kill or cripple an enemy 'mech, and if your team follows you they have probably been able to focus down another enemy 'mech. So you die, and your team is up two or three to one, and that's all she wrote. If you push incorrectly you have ten people focusing you with Large Lasers and you die even if you twist properly The timing of a push is really hard to get down. I died a lot early in order to figure that out and I still gently caress up sometimes.
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Also lol streakcrows make so much loving money
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For me the biggest challenge when assault piloting is choosing where I am going to go, and committing to it. I normally pilot lights and mediums so I can change position and direction without needing to think about it more than 10 seconds in advance. With an assault, you got to plan 60 seconds in advance. If the team decides we are going to grid A1, you need to move your slow rear end there and that takes time. If the team decides to move elsewhere by the time you gets there, you're going to die... alone. Similarly, if someone calls for a big push, the assaults needs to go all in. You're not going to survive starting a push, changing your mind and trying to back out, you're gonna die.
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ZenVulgarity posted:And that's totally okay but some people will give you poo poo for not doing enough damage Those people are retarded shitlers and should be reminded of that fact constantly.
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ZenVulgarity posted:If you push incorrectly you have ten people focusing you with Large Lasers and you die even if you twist properly this is true. it's definitely a risk and if it doesn't work you shouldn't be shamed for it. you went out on your shield.
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Which timber can I buy first and strip the least amount of garbage off
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If your assaults say they're going, if you're a nearby heavy or even medium you drop what you're doing and go. It doesn't matter if you're shooting at something or whatever. When the push is called you get your robot in line and go gently caress the the other guys up. Do not stop the until the enemy is dead or you are. Brawling owns.
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Number19 posted:If your assaults say they're going, if you're a nearby heavy or even medium you drop what you're doing and go. It doesn't matter if you're shooting at something or whatever. When the push is called you get your robot in line and go gently caress the the other guys up. Do not stop the until the enemy is dead or you are. Brawling is so loving fun
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Also, if you're not yelling "WITNESS ME" into comms while leading a push you're doing it wrong.
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Pattonesque posted:the way new players should think of it is this -- say you lead a push in an Atlas and take 15 seconds to die. Sounds lovely, but in those 15 seconds you've probably been able to kill or cripple an enemy 'mech, and if your team follows you they have probably been able to focus down another enemy 'mech. So you die, and your team is up two or three to one, and that's all she wrote. The best thing about the D-DC is that every once in a while, the enemy doesn't notice you when you push.
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This is how I dakkawolf as of late: DWF-B Save the medium pulses for when you run out of ammo or when your UAC/10s are jammed up. The thing is much too hot to fire all your guns at once. You'll end up exploding into space.
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Number19 posted:Also, if you're not yelling "WITNESS ME" into comms while leading a push you're doing it wrong. This is the most true statement in the entire thread.
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Number19 posted:Also, if you're not yelling "WITNESS ME" into comms while leading a push you're doing it wrong. 
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I've been playing this game again and loving it now. Good Things: -CW is a thing that people do, and gives you free mechbays -Clan mechs   -Events for free things (got all 75 quickplay tickets) -Trashc -10m cbills made most of my old mechs Not Terrible Bad Things: -Still almost-Korean levels of grind -"Hey guys I need you to hold locks so I can LUUURRRRRMMMM" -Bought SCR-PRIME for 11m Cbills two days before the sale, I'm a fuckin' idiot. My question right now is what clan mech is next for me? I'm trying to fill a deck now that my CW contract is up. So far I have SCR-PRIME and ACH-PRIME. I love both. Should I attempt to grind out a DWF while it's on sale? Is TBR- as bad as everyone says now? Should I forget about the sale and go for something more 'fun' like SHC or HBR? Lemon Curdistan posted:If only there were a medium that could fit something like 5-6 AC-2s so it wouldn't cost me Assault prices to get a dakkamech. Dakkawolf is relevant to my interests, I made a hilarious HBK-4G build with 3x AC2. Though terrible, it's satisfying to poke your shoulder over a hill and perma-shake some poor assault mech until he retreats. Can someone invite me to WoL please? Ingame: treemaster
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The correct medium dakkamech is the BJ-1 with dual ac/2s and 4 mls. It's actually very effective.
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Herb Dington posted:I've been playing this game again and loving it now. Friend me up in game and I will invite.
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Oh man the Shadowhawk-2D2 is back baby. 4 SRM 4's and an AC-10 and murdering the poo poo out of everything, back to back 800 damage matches this morning before breakfast.
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Washout posted:Oh man the Shadowhawk-2D2 is back baby. 4 SRM 4's and an AC-10 and murdering the poo poo out of everything, back to back 800 damage matches this morning before breakfast. Link to the build? I'm curious.
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Do any of the Timberwolves in the sale give you bonus CBills?
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tarbrush posted:Do any of the Timberwolves in the sale give you bonus CBills? Only if they're a (C) or the (I) model. I dont think the C exists for Clans.
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If you want to have a clan give you bonus cbills you have to buy a pack
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Super 3 posted:Only if they're a (C) or the (I) model. I dont think the C exists for Clans. Champion mechs do not give bonus C-bills.
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ZenVulgarity posted:If you want to have a clan give you bonus cbills you have to buy a pack I bought the light pack and can attest that a cheater with +30% cbills and premium time is like a ceaseless money fountain.
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ZenVulgarity posted:Almost tier 3. Going up in tiers is a trap. Tier 5 for easy mode.
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Tier 3 is schizophrenic because some games you run up against the mega-tryhards and other games you could take on all 12 enemies by yourself
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