Silly Burrito posted:You won't be able to record shows from Sling TV. There are some that are on demand, but not all of them. Not ever, or just not with that set up?
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hollylolly posted:Not ever, or just not with that set up? Are you talking about Sling.TV the app, or the Sling TV device? Because if it's Sling.TV the app, unless something's changed recently, there's no way to record Sling.TV programs that I know of short of rigging something up from HDMI output of your Xbox to a VCR or other recording device.
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Jan 4, 2016 23:39
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Silly Burrito posted:Are you talking about Sling.TV the app, or the Sling TV device? Because if it's Sling.TV the app, unless something's changed recently, there's no way to record Sling.TV programs that I know of short of rigging something up from HDMI output of your Xbox to a VCR or other recording device. The app. I think? The only devices I see on the Sling TV website are like the Roku or Amazon Fire. I'm not opposed to getting a Roku, I just don't want to get one if the Xbox we already have has the same functionality.
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Jan 4, 2016 23:48
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blk96gt posted:So what does it mean to side load an app? Is it just a matter of installing it, then clicking on a Kodi icon on the home screen to launch? To sideload means to install an app using another device. You basically download the app's apk file on your PC and install it to your Fire over your network. There are utilities available that automate it for you so it's kinda like installing any other software on your pc, only it's instead making your streaming device way more awesome.
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Jan 4, 2016 23:53
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hollylolly posted:The app. I think? The only devices I see on the Sling TV website are like the Roku or Amazon Fire. I'm not opposed to getting a Roku, I just don't want to get one if the Xbox we already have has the same functionality. Ok, as long as the Xbox has the capability of using the Sling.tv app (and it looks like it does: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/entertainment/xbox-one/live-apps/sling-tv), you don't need a Roku or Fire. Sling.TV allows you to watch some shows On Demand, and for three days afterwards, but not all of them. Depends on the content provider.
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Jan 5, 2016 00:02
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Silly Burrito posted:Ok, as long as the Xbox has the capability of using the Sling.tv app (and it looks like it does: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/entertainment/xbox-one/live-apps/sling-tv), you don't need a Roku or Fire. Sling.TV allows you to watch some shows On Demand, and for three days afterwards, but not all of them. Depends on the content provider. Okay, thanks. I am going to try their 7 day trial to see exactly how it works, I think. 
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Jan 5, 2016 00:09
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hollylolly posted:Bear with me as I talk through this - in theory I could get the HDHR Extend and stream the OTA live channels to a computer with Windows Media Player and use that to record shows which I could then cast to either of my TVs. I can also use my Xbox One for Sling TV for our main downstairs TV (I think). I'm not sure how to record the shows from Sling TV with this set up. Honestly you could save yourself a lot of hassle with the OTA DVR by just getting a Hulu subscription. None of the HDHomeruns have decent Chromecasting ability, not even the Extend (whose transcoder makes 1080i channels look demonstrably worse). You could use one of the pricier boxes like a ShieldTV or ATV4 that support MPEG2 for live TV, but a DVR for it will still kind of be a Rube Goldberg clusterfuck and god help you if you have a wife you intend to use it too. Your Xbox One can see the HDHomerun on the network but if you want to watch OTA TV on the Xbox One just get the tuner for it so you get the guide.
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Jan 5, 2016 05:17
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Or if there's a simpler way to facilitate the downloading of content from the internet to a place I can watch it on my TV...
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blk96gt posted:So what does it mean to side load an app? Is it just a matter of installing it, then clicking on a Kodi icon on the home screen to launch? Call Me Charlie posted:It's dead simple to sideload apps to the Fire TV. And you can also sideload an alternative launcher like Firestarter and set it to open Kodi when you double tap the home button on the remote. http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/themes-apps/app-root-home-launcher-replacement-app-t3118135
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Jan 5, 2016 14:25
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I am looking at getting an attic or roof antenna to provide coverage for my entire house instead of using mohu leafs on every TV. I already have coax to every room and split in the basement as the previous owners had cable. If I hire a professional to install the antenna, what is a reasonable cost and expectation of man hours to have one installed and calibrated?
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Jan 6, 2016 15:26
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Bigass Moth posted:I am looking at getting an attic or roof antenna to provide coverage for my entire house instead of using mohu leafs on every TV. I already have coax to every room and split in the basement as the previous owners had cable. If I hire a professional to install the antenna, what is a reasonable cost and expectation of man hours to have one installed and calibrated? You dont need a professional. They are literally 4 bolts. If you have a socket set and a drill you can install it yourself.
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Jan 6, 2016 15:40
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Is there a recommended model you could suggest so i can research it?
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Jan 6, 2016 15:42
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Bigass Moth posted:Is there a recommended model you could suggest so i can research it? http://www.solidsignal.com/p/ota.asp?d=tv-antenna-selector-help&mc=03 Fill out all your info, be as accurate and specific as possible and they will recommend something for your exact situation based on your geographical location. They are excellent and the large rca antenna they recommended to me works amazing. If you are installing on roof make sure you ground it where it comes into the house and use roof tar on the bolts. if in the attic and it never leaves the house then just bolt the fucker in and run the wiring. I have mine hanging by 2 bolts from a rafter. Then i just took a cheap 12" tv into the attic and rotated the antenna till i got the best signal. Otherwise you would hook it up to your tv system and have someone watch a signal meter on one of the tvs/set top boxes. Don Lapre fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Jan 6, 2016 |
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Jan 6, 2016 15:50
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Bigass Moth posted:I am looking at getting an attic or roof antenna to provide coverage for my entire house instead of using mohu leafs on every TV. I already have coax to every room and split in the basement as the previous owners had cable. If I hire a professional to install the antenna, what is a reasonable cost and expectation of man hours to have one installed and calibrated? I'm not super familiar with antennas but wouldn't you need some sort of power booster in order to provide a signal to multiple TV's from a single antenna? I never had an issue with a direct line to 1 TV, but I'm not sure about hooking up multiple TVs to the same antenna.
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Jan 6, 2016 19:05
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Falco posted:I'm not super familiar with antennas but wouldn't you need some sort of power booster in order to provide a signal to multiple TV's from a single antenna? I never had an issue with a direct line to 1 TV, but I'm not sure about hooking up multiple TVs to the same antenna. Boosters arn't a big deal. I use a BoostXT, you can find it at lowes and home depot.
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Jan 6, 2016 19:38
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loving WBBM in Chicago and its VHF bullshit. I'd love to just hang an antenna in the rafters. Gotta bolt it to the chimney so I get one of the only VHF stations still broadcasting in the US.
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Jan 6, 2016 22:06
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Thwomp posted:loving WBBM in Chicago and its VHF bullshit. I'd love to just hang an antenna in the rafters. I'm not going to google it, but I remember seeing that ~1/4 of stations are using VHF. Do you mean lo-VHF (RF ch. 2-6 or 7)?
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Jan 7, 2016 04:30
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Reading this thread it looks like The Shield is the way to go. However, I don't think I'd ever be able to convince my wife to use a videogame controller as a remote control and she is already on the fence about cutting cable as it is. That being said, if you lived in a world where The Shield didn't exist would you be buying a current gen. Apple TV or Amazon Fire? I don't really have any media bought on either ecosystem so that isn't a concern. Thanks!
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Jan 7, 2016 05:33
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Reading this thread it looks like The Shield is the way to go. However, I don't think I'd ever be able to convince my wife to use a videogame controller as a remote control and she is already on the fence about cutting cable as it is. That being said, if you lived in a world where The Shield didn't exist would you be buying a current gen. Apple TV or Amazon Fire? I don't really have any media bought on either ecosystem so that isn't a concern. So get the remote with it for free. It's a nice small remote. That being said, I'd be buying a Roku 4 instead of an Apple or Fire if not the Shield, but out of those two, a Fire.
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Jan 7, 2016 05:43
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Silly Burrito posted:So get the remote with it for free. It's a nice small remote. That being said, I'd be buying a Roku 4 instead of an Apple or Fire if not the Shield, but out of those two, a Fire. Ah, I hadn't realized a Roku 4 was out. Thanks for that! I'll also look closer into the Shield.
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Jan 7, 2016 05:51
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Reading this thread it looks like The Shield is the way to go. However, I don't think I'd ever be able to convince my wife to use a videogame controller as a remote control and she is already on the fence about cutting cable as it is. That being said, if you lived in a world where The Shield didn't exist would you be buying a current gen. Apple TV or Amazon Fire? I don't really have any media bought on either ecosystem so that isn't a concern. It comes with the remote for free now, and it's a pretty decent little remote with a headphone jack. It works perfectly fine with every media app, and if you take a few minutes to sideload the new Kodi (Jarvis, newer than the one on the play store) and read my other post about keymappings it works great with Kodi as well. The fact that it has so few buttons is something a lot of people view as a plus. Your or your wife will never need to touch the controller if you don't want; I have two Shields and the controller for one is sitting in a drawer. I'm probably just going to pair it to the other one for multiplayer gaming. It also works with IR universal remotes like the Harmony.
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Jan 7, 2016 05:53
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Reading this thread it looks like The Shield is the way to go. However, I don't think I'd ever be able to convince my wife to use a videogame controller as a remote control and she is already on the fence about cutting cable as it is. That being said, if you lived in a world where The Shield didn't exist would you be buying a current gen. Apple TV or Amazon Fire? I don't really have any media bought on either ecosystem so that isn't a concern. You can sideload Android apps to the Fire TV and there's a pretty good developer community for it. It's also $65 cheaper (and for $20 a year, you can put all your music into Amazon's cloud and it will work with voice search/Alexa. or you can load them on a usb stick and play them in kodi)
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Jan 7, 2016 05:54
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Call Me Charlie posted:You can sideload Android apps to the Fire TV and there's a pretty good developer community for it. It's also $65 cheaper (and for $20 a year, you can put all your music into Amazon's cloud and it will work with voice search/Alexa. or you can load them on a usb stick and play them in kodi) Update for the new Fire TV (the only one they sell now) lets sideloaded apps appear in the apps menu, even (though you won't get it in "recent" apps or voice integration, etc.). I like the Fire TV too, though I'd still pick a Shield over it and pay the difference.
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Jan 7, 2016 05:55
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Ixian posted:Update for the new Fire TV (the only one they sell now) lets sideloaded apps appear in the apps menu, even (though you won't get it in "recent" apps or voice integration, etc.). The Shield's great hardware but you can get 2 Fire TVs for the price and it's plenty powerful enough for a streaming box (even powerful enough to emulate the Dreamcast and PSP)
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Jan 7, 2016 06:12
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My brother picked up the AmazonBasics 50 mile antenna and let me borrow it, and it picked up everything except for PBS. I"d like to get something for the attic that way I can send the signal all the TV's and maybe has a little bit more range to pick up PBS. Anyone have a recommendation for an attic antenna? I was looking at this one: - GE 24792 Attic Mount Antenna
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Jan 7, 2016 15:23
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blk96gt posted:My brother picked up the AmazonBasics 50 mile antenna and let me borrow it, and it picked up everything except for PBS. I"d like to get something for the attic that way I can send the signal all the TV's and maybe has a little bit more range to pick up PBS. Anyone have a recommendation for an attic antenna? I was looking at this one: Those flat antennas in particular are really sensitive to placement. Sometimes even moving them a foot or two changes things dramatically. Check your address on Antennaweb to see what your stations are and where the towers are located in relation to your house and try placing the antenna in a couple different spots before you go to the trouble of an attic antenna (do you already have cabling in place there?) I use a Mohu leaf and after quite a bit of trial and error (having a TV nearby that has a half decent signal meter really, really helps) I was able to get everything in my area, including one station 40 miles away. It just took some fiddling. Always go for the strongest signal you can get, even for stations that appear to come in well. They may not on rainy days. In fact if you are able test it on a rainy day, that will really show you what you have available.
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Jan 7, 2016 15:41
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blk96gt posted:My brother picked up the AmazonBasics 50 mile antenna and let me borrow it, and it picked up everything except for PBS. I"d like to get something for the attic that way I can send the signal all the TV's and maybe has a little bit more range to pick up PBS. Anyone have a recommendation for an attic antenna? I was looking at this one: http://www.solidsignal.com/p/ota.asp?d=tv-antenna-selector-help&mc=03 Fill out all your info, be as accurate and specific as possible and they will recommend something for your exact situation based on your geographical location.
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Jan 7, 2016 15:50
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Ixian posted:Those flat antennas in particular are really sensitive to placement. Sometimes even moving them a foot or two changes things dramatically. Wiring from the attic is simple in my case. I already have conduit ran from the attic to the main hub where all my cable/ethernet wires terminate, so that's why I would prefer to have an attic installation. I plan on eventually getting an HDHomerun, so having the main antenna line terminate where my hub is is perfect. The wife would also not be happy with the antenna being in full view in the house. As luck would have it it was storming pretty bad last night and I was able to pick up all the channels I cared about (plus a bunch more) with a clear signal except for PBS. I will try again this afternoon now that the weather's cleared up. Don Lapre posted:http://www.solidsignal.com/p/ota.asp?d=tv-antenna-selector-help&mc=03 I'm going to try to research a bit more first, but I may give this a try later. Thanks for the link.
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Jan 7, 2016 16:23
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Don Lapre posted:http://www.solidsignal.com/p/ota.asp?d=tv-antenna-selector-help&mc=03 Well I tried this and was pretty disappointed with their response. I put a note in there that I had tried the AmazonBasics antenna and it worked fine while storming except for PBS, but their response was that an indoor antenna wouldn't work and they would not recommend an attic mounted antenna either.
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Jan 7, 2016 20:31
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blk96gt posted:Well I tried this and was pretty disappointed with their response. I put a note in there that I had tried the AmazonBasics antenna and it worked fine while storming except for PBS, but their response was that an indoor antenna wouldn't work and they would not recommend an attic mounted antenna either. Well one antenna going to one tv over 10ft of cable is a lot different then an antenna over a much longer cable feeding multiple sets.
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Jan 7, 2016 20:39
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Something like this wouldn't solve that issue? http://www.amazon.com/Bi-Directional-Amplifier-Splitter-Booster-Passive/dp/B000WDR94U
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Jan 7, 2016 20:53
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blk96gt posted:Well I tried this and was pretty disappointed with their response. I put a note in there that I had tried the AmazonBasics antenna and it worked fine while storming except for PBS, but their response was that an indoor antenna wouldn't work and they would not recommend an attic mounted antenna either. How far is the PBS transmitter from your house and is it VHF or UHF? Antenna Web will tell you.
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Jan 7, 2016 21:03
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39 miles, same as all the others. PBS is VHF. I pick up all the other VHF and UHF signals fine. I am going to try it again this evening when I get home and see if maybe it was just the rain last night. Will also try it in the attic to see if it actually works.
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Jan 7, 2016 21:15
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blk96gt posted:39 miles, same as all the others. PBS is VHF. I pick up all the other VHF and UHF signals fine. I am going to try it again this evening when I get home and see if maybe it was just the rain last night. Will also try it in the attic to see if it actually works. Without getting in to the weeds - in particular for "flat" or "leaf" antennas, VHF is harder to get, especially on lower channels like 2 through 6. VHF is also more sensitive to direction. 39 miles is definitely pushing it for VHF and that kind of antenna. If you are on the other side of the house from the antenna or have a hill/lot of trees in the way you will probably have issues. Even if you get other VHF channels from the same tower frequency plays a big role - is PBS on a lower channel?
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Jan 7, 2016 22:10
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It's channel 8, the next lowest VHF is 11, which seemed to pick up fine. Thinking on it I shouldn't care that I don't pick it up since it's my kid that mainly watches PBS, and there's a PBS kid app that has all the shows on it for Android TV.
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Jan 7, 2016 22:17
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The PBS station might say it is channel 8, but it really could be a different channel that has been mapped to channel 8. Like the ABC affiliate here is channel 24, but they are actually channel 9. It causes tons of people to have issues with that one channel when every other station in our market is in the UHF range.
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Jan 7, 2016 22:39
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If the channel is in the 54 to 88MHz range (as Diremonk says it may be mapped differently than it appears on your TV) then that low of a band will be very hard to get with a leaf-type antenna at a the 39 mile range. You might want to check around the dial, so to speak, to see if it is rebroadcast on some other channel. For example, I can't get the "official" Univision station for my area (v-channel 62, but actually on channel 6) because it is 50 miles from my house and VHF. However it is also rebroadcast on a UHF subchannel (31.2) - in HD, same content, that I get just fine. It wasn't immediately obvious because for whatever reason the subchannel isn't called out as Univision in most online antenna guides for my area, I had to check around.
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So I decided to cut the cord today, and I'm testing out how this would work. I have an older TV with only 1 HDMI port, which I use to connect to my receiver. I connected my cheap antenna to the TV and it works decently enough, but there's no sound. Basically, what I need is some type of antenna that can connect to the RF on the TV and then have an HDMI output so I can connect to the receiver. Would something like this do the trick? http://www.amazon.com/HomeWorx-HW18...hdtv+tuner+hdmi
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coronaball posted:So I decided to cut the cord today, and I'm testing out how this would work. I have an older TV with only 1 HDMI port, which I use to connect to my receiver. I connected my cheap antenna to the TV and it works decently enough, but there's no sound. Basically, what I need is some type of antenna that can connect to the RF on the TV and then have an HDMI output so I can connect to the receiver. Would something like this do the trick? Your tv probably has an audio out. run that to your receiver.
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Jan 8, 2016 06:44
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http://www.cnet.com/products/magnavox-tbhp500-series-dvr/ Expensive, but interesting. Magnavox OTA DVR.
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diremonk posted:The PBS station might say it is channel 8, but it really could be a different channel that has been mapped to channel 8. Like the ABC affiliate here is channel 24, but they are actually channel 9. It causes tons of people to have issues with that one channel when every other station in our market is in the UHF range. Ixian posted:If the channel is in the 54 to 88MHz range (as Diremonk says it may be mapped differently than it appears on your TV) then that low of a band will be very hard to get with a leaf-type antenna at a the 39 mile range. I had been trying the antenna in our bedroom, and moved it into the living room yesterday to see how it did. I got 100+ channels in there (compared to ~60 in the bedroom), including PBS, but reception was spotty for PBS. I don't really care for the location it's at now, so tonight I will try it in the attic and see what it does when going from there to the TV downstairs. I am still planning to pick up some sort of attic antenna. Does anyone in here have an attic mount antenna? I'm really just looking for opinions on quality, not necessarily reception. Again, if the little leaf antenna works fine, I don't see why an attic mounted 60-mile range one with an amplifier won't do as well, if not better, than a leaf version. These are the ones I'm looking at now: - ClearStream 2V Indoor/Outdoor HDTV Antenna - Channel Master CM-4228HD High VHF, UHF - Mohu Sky 60 Amplified Attic/Outdoor HDTV Antenna - GE 24792 Attic Mount Antenna
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