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I really like how Shinji is starting to come more into his own as a character and actually seems to be developing some confidence. It seems like Asuka is actually helping him break out of his shell a little. I don't think episode 1 Shinji would have literally jumped into the fire to save anyone's life, so it was really great to see that. It's actually scary how competent Misato is since it seems like pounding all those beers should have some negative effects on your work life.
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Jan 7, 2016 21:02
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Jan 7, 2016 21:33
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Logicblade posted:I don't think episode 1 Shinji would have literally jumped into the fire to save anyone's life... Yeah he would have. Watch the very first scene where Gendo's trying to convince him to get in the robot. His father's approval is explicitly not enough to convince him at this point, in fact it just makes him mad. What actually prompts him to get in the robot? "Well if you don't, we'll make this badly injured cute girl do it instead. Cough up some blood for the audience, Rei!"
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Jan 7, 2016 22:15
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This is probably the most obvious example of Gerry Anderson influence on Evangelion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHW4KIrX6kE Check the music too
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Jan 7, 2016 22:55
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I actually grew up seeing a lot of reruns of Gerry Anderson shows but I never even made the influence connection until it was pointed out to me. In retrospect it really is super obvious, especially as Eva scratches the same mechanical design and attention to detail itch his work did for me.
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Jan 7, 2016 23:11
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Sakurazuka posted:This is probably the most obvious example of Gerry Anderson influence on Evangelion: this video is blocked for me but I googled gerry anderson and stingray and holy poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E06cNv55jTs haha
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Jan 7, 2016 23:21
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Anno poured his heart and soul into Evangelion, which is why it's full of everything he loved, but also everything he hated.
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Sakurazuka posted:Anno poured his heart and soul into Evangelion, which is why it's full of everything he loved, but also everything he hated. Eva is an extremely personal and cathartic work in a way that's very rare in the medium of TV shows, which I suspect is a large part of why it resonates so much with some people.
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Jan 7, 2016 23:41
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for sure, I LOVE seeing the influences so I hope people post more of that for reference his 10 favorite tokatsu as of 2012: 1. godzilla 54 2. mighty jack 68 3. ultraman 68 4. ultra seven 67 5 return of ultraman 71 fav anime as of sometime in the 90s 1. Yamato 74 2. Mobile Suit Gundam 79 3. Gundam–Char’s Counterattack 88 4. Legendary Giant IDEON w/movie 1980 5. Animal Treasure Island 71 6. Fight! Pyuta! 68 7. Future Boy Conan 78 8. Aim for the Ace 73 9. Tom & Jerry 44 10. Ann the Red Hair/Anne of Green Gables 79
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you know what I reaally want? the 'romance novels' he said he based a lot of the adult relationships on lol assuming that wasn't a joke (and I see no reason why other than that it's funny) Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Paracelsus posted:Eva is an extremely personal and cathartic work in a way that's very rare in the medium of TV shows, which I suspect is a large part of why it resonates so much with some people. it's one of the most deeply personal works of fiction in any medium, full stop that's insanely hyperbolic but i stand by it
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Jan 8, 2016 00:18
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Zas posted:
because he loves yamato so much he storyboarded/designed the OP for the excellent remake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51PjegTadWU his love for yamato can also be seen in shirobako, with the giant (sort of) replica behind him when he's in his office
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Jan 8, 2016 00:24
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Radio Spiricom posted:it's one of the most deeply personal works of fiction in any medium, full stop It's true
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Radio Spiricom posted:it's one of the most deeply personal works of fiction in any medium, full stop for the hyperbole pile: I think you can compare the way anno used the devices of postmodernism to translate his personal experiences into fiction to the way kafka used the modernist devices, in terms of depth and feeling
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there's a certain merit to comparing technical expertise between two creators working in the same medium but "does evangelion have more feels than kafka" sounds like an utterly sterile argument to me the important thing is that if you like evangelion holy poo poo go read kafka, go read the metamorphosis, read the trial, do it then maybe hook a left turn and read portrait of the artist as a young man quote:... I go to encounter for the millionth time the reality of experience and to forge in the smithy of my soul the uncreated conscience of my race. does that sound like anyone we know? (well maybe not to first-time simulwatch viewers but you guys should go ahead and finish evangelion first)
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Jan 8, 2016 00:37
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I haven't read The Trial, but I like the Welles adaptation. I never realized it before but Anthony Perkins is kind of Shinji-ish in that.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:there's a certain merit to comparing technical expertise between two creators working in the same medium but "does evangelion have more feels than kafka" sounds like an utterly sterile argument to me it wasn't an argument, it was a single point of comparison, for the hyperbole pile, and the reason I brought him up in particular was cause he's a well known example of a canonic artistic figure famous for translating personal pain into fiction by using the language and devices of his time extremely adeptly, jeez give me a break
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Jan 8, 2016 00:42
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I like the positron rifle scene from ep 6 because it has the same badass buildup as the scene that must have inspired it, the wave motion gun in Yamato
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Zas posted:it wasn't an argument, it was a single point of comparison, for the hyperbole pile, and the reason I brought him up in particular was cause he's a well known example of a canonic artistic figure famous for translating personal pain into fiction by using the language and devices of his time extremely adeptly, jeez give me a break sorry i didn't mean that to be so confrontational, it's a bad habit of mine on the contrary i was trying to say more that people shouldn't need to feel defensive about comparing anime to literature or film, go find those parallels, embrace them and embrace anything that lets you enjoy both works more deeply
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Radio Spiricom posted:it's one of the most deeply personal works of fiction in any medium, full stop I can almost buy that. It's just that TV shows are such an unusual platform for a story that personal, because they're so dependant on being saleable. It's possible to make a personally significant book or movie that will never see wide release, but with TV you have to convince the producers and advertisers that other people want to see your stuff in order for them to put up the money to get it broadcast and something too specific to one person is normally unlikely to have a broad enough appeal. Eva was perhaps a strange perfect storm in how that came about, but that's probably a discussion for later on.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:sorry i didn't mean that to be so confrontational, it's a bad habit of mine yeah my response was tongue in cheek, we are all friends here and I agree with what you're saying. a few other reasons I like the kafka comparison, just on a personal level (remember kids the author is NOT dead): similar issues with depression, anomie, alienation from a society experiencing rapid depersonalization, and women
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Zas posted:issues with depression, anomie, alienation from a society experiencing rapid depersonalization, and women Same here.
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"a normie"
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In Training posted:Same here. we are all shinji Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Paracelsus posted:I can almost buy that. It's just that TV shows are such an unusual platform for a story that personal, because they're so dependant on being saleable. It's possible to make a personally significant book or movie that will never see wide release, but with TV you have to convince the producers and advertisers that other people want to see your stuff in order for them to put up the money to get it broadcast and something too specific to one person is normally unlikely to have a broad enough appeal. eva is a pretty sui generis cultural phenomenon. i would say that the only thing that really approximates it in terms of it being a highly commercialized saleable product that's compellingly watchable yet highly experimental and a deeply personal vision is twin peaks.
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Radio Spiricom posted:eva is a pretty sui generis cultural phenomenon. i would say that the only thing that really approximates it in terms of it being a highly commercialized saleable product that's compellingly watchable yet highly experimental and a deeply personal vision is twin peaks. I want a twin peaks bucket and twin peaks doritos
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Radio Spiricom posted:eva is a pretty sui generis cultural phenomenon. i would say that the only thing that really approximates it in terms of it being a highly commercialized saleable product that's compellingly watchable yet highly experimental and a deeply personal vision is twin peaks. Back in the late 90s, before I had seen Eva, it was first described to me as "anime Twin Peaks."
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I love the commercialisation of Evangelion, it's at such odds with the work itself.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV36QPB0pew
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A Doomed Purloiner posted:I love the commercialisation of Evangelion, it's at such odds with the work itself. somehow more horrifying than instrumentality
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A Doomed Purloiner posted:I love the commercialisation of Evangelion, it's at such odds with the work itself. Imagine the scene in the 2nd episode where Gendo and Shinji meet at the elevator, only Gendo is like this instead.
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Gendo with no beard and no glasses looks like a guy who will try to sell meth to you in a back alley.
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At least he looks happy about it
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Reds posted:Gendo with no beard and no glasses looks like a guy who will try to sell meth to you in a back alley. I don't think you've ever been in this situation
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.jpg posted:I don't think you've ever been in this situation Well I don't mean happy shaving Gendo.
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Oh yeah, even hardcore sub watchers should try the dub for episode 11, it has a couple of great moments that don't really come across in the original version.
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It's also the best episode for comedy stuff, I don't care what anyone says. Also kind of the last. 
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I got my bike all prepped just in time 
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I'd vote for a computer to run the government.  E: "It... it wasn't me." Command Ant fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Jan 9, 2016 |
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