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jassi007 posted:True. They also just printed a 2cmc charm that says "beat twin/counter crumble to dust/ramp out Ugin when you get that sweet natural Tron on t3. My friend who is quite good with Tron, 13-2 at GP Charlotte, top 8SCG States twice with it, etc. says he thinks 4 of 2 main/2side. IDK if I can get behind Wail in the main since you want to be very linear G1 but I think it's a 3 of in the board.
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jassi007 posted:I agree with you? :P I can't imagine anyone thinks it makes for fun or good or interesting games, but if you have a card that says "you win!" when you play it against certain decks, whacha gonna do? Not just poo poo like Bloom either, I loved playing it against Jund they'd just look at their mana, look at bloodmoon, then topdeck for 5 or so minutes while I pecked them to death. Being a jund player it seems you would have to play your fetches weird against an opponent with blood moon to get locked out by blood moon unless we are talking about mainboard blood moons.
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Jan 7, 2016 21:39
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Sickening posted:Being a jund player it seems you would have to play your fetches weird against an opponent with blood moon to get locked out by blood moon unless we are talking about mainboard blood moons. Sometimes you just don't draw them or you have to fetch a shock to actually be able to cast a spell.
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Count Bleck posted:Somebody edit a salmon or something into the art. 
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odiv posted:I guess it might be okay if you get a lot of scions? Still, the last thing I need when I can produce 7 mana is more mana. The extra mana isn't to cast something bigger than a 7, it's so you can chain multiple creatures off the other ability
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"What the gently caress Kozilek, why'd you make my head into a fish?!" seriously reality warping pranksters are the worst
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jassi007 posted:I agree with you? :P I can't imagine anyone thinks it makes for fun or good or interesting games, but if you have a card that says "you win!" when you play it against certain decks, whacha gonna do? Not just poo poo like Bloom either, I loved playing it against Jund they'd just look at their mana, look at bloodmoon, then topdeck for 5 or so minutes while I pecked them to death. I still think that's largely a symptom of manabases now being way way to generous. If anything I'd like to see more blood moon-type effects to get people back off some of the greedy manabases. It also seems that they're developing cards as though multiple colors is a much bigger impediment than it really is.
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Sickening posted:Being a jund player it seems you would have to play your fetches weird against an opponent with blood moon to get locked out by blood moon unless we are talking about mainboard blood moons. sort of agree but if your opener is overgrown tomb, blackcleave cliffs, you probably keep it the majority of the time. Sometimes that turns out to be the worst idea and you lose the game, but thats life.
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jassi007 posted:sort of agree but if your opener is overgrown tomb, blackcleave cliffs, you probably keep it the majority of the time. Sometimes that turns out to be the worst idea and you lose the game, but thats life. In my first 7 against an opponent with blood moon? Does my hand have a discard spell or abrupt decay? If not, its probably a mull.
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Jan 7, 2016 22:32
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Still enjoying the guy at last weekend's IQ that was mad I was playing the two-card combination of Leonin Arbiter and Ghost Quarter when he was playing Splinter Twin
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Boco_T posted:Still enjoying the guy at last weekend's IQ that was mad I was playing the two-card combination of Leonin Arbiter and Ghost Quarter when he was playing Splinter Twin No Aven Mindcensor? Scrub 
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Cactrot posted:No Aven Mindcensor? Scrub
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jassi007 posted:They're talking about Crumble to Dust. Can't Tron counter it with Warping Wail anyways?
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Boco_T posted:Still enjoying the guy at last weekend's IQ that was mad I was playing the two-card combination of Leonin Arbiter and Ghost Quarter when he was playing Splinter Twin I was at a pre-tq and my opponent on TarmoTwin let me resolve a T2 suppression field without cracking his fetch in response. The next two turns he just played two more fetches and frowned. Best game 3 ever.
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Boco_T posted:Still enjoying the guy at last weekend's IQ that was mad I was playing the two-card combination of Leonin Arbiter and Ghost Quarter when he was playing Splinter Twin It's not like that is a new combo...
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Mezzanon posted:I was at a pre-tq and my opponent on TarmoTwin let me resolve a T2 suppression field without cracking his fetch in response. The next two turns he just played two more fetches and frowned. Best game 3 ever.
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Boco_T posted:Yeah the one game I won against Jund in the match was at least 50% from him putting a fetch directly into his graveyard on turn 2 after I dropped Arbiter, me going UHH and him going "oh, yeah I should have played that differently." I also had a game against Jund where I had a T2 suppression field and my opponent dropped a T3 Lilly and went to immediately minus her against my one creature, then they had to re-read suppression field, and I just murdered Lilly on my turn.
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mcmagic posted:I don't think Blood Moon promotes fun gameplay. Entropic posted:I guess we get the full spoiler in a couple days since the pre-release is next weekend? Tomorrow morning.
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Angry Grimace posted:said the Tron player. I've cast Blood Moon at least as many times as Karn... I also don't really think Moon is that great vs Tron. You have so many ways to deal with it.
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I know people pile onto MTGO but Duels is such a loving embarrassment. They never patch bugs, they have never released anything without a delay, the iOS servers were hosed for months, and today they announce that Oath won't be coming out until SoI in April (both simultaneously, they say). I mean this was supposed to be their core set replacement. It honestly looks like it's run on a shoe string budget, which is baffling considering the supposed importance of the project.
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Rinkles posted:I know people pile onto MTGO but Duels is such a loving embarrassment. Sounds like a Wizards digital project, all right.
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Yeah, I gave up on Magic Duels months ago. Don't trust wizards to do anything correctly with digital media.
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I'm not even gimmick posting when I say MTGO works fine. They fixed a lot of the poo poo that people complain about. It loads your collection the first time you tab into it sorta slow, but everything else works as expected.
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Angry Grimace posted:I'm not even gimmick posting when I say MTGO works fine. They fixed a lot of the poo poo that people complain about. It loads your collection the first time you tab into it sorta slow, but everything else works as expected. MTGO is slowly but meaningfully getting better, yeah - stuff like Leagues and the current Year of Modern (drafts) are a huge step forward for them. Still too expensive, though.
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Niton posted:MTGO is slowly but meaningfully getting better, yeah - stuff like Leagues and the current Year of Modern (drafts) are a huge step forward for them. The biggest thing is that they fixed the RAM leaks so it doesn't run like poo poo all the time. Dungeon Ecology posted:Did we see this one already? Yes, it was spoiled early this week and was in the original big leak
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Dungeon Ecology posted:Did we see this one already? A while ago, yeah. It was one of the first things we saw.
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I'm new to Magic but, from what I have observed thus far, it baffles me at how awful WoTC is in handling digital media given the absolute gently caress ton of money they must print each quarter. Does Hasbro just hand them a poo poo budget and rake in the profits while Magic continues to be a seemingly ever-growing cash cow? Or, is my idea of Wizards as a company just wrong?
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playground tough posted:I'm new to Magic but, from what I have observed thus far, it baffles me at how awful WoTC is in handling digital media given the absolute gently caress ton of money they must print each quarter. Does Hasbro just hand them a poo poo budget and rake in the profits while Magic continues to be a seemingly ever-growing cash cow? Or, is my idea of Wizards as a company just wrong? Apparently, Wizards management is atrocious. Their idea of recruiting for MTGO has included an employee showing up at an FNM and asking for programmers, and paying programmers sub-par wages, in an already highly-competitive area, with the 'balance' being that they "love the game"
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It turns out when you have a product that literally prints money, you don't have to invest money into improving it. For all the problems MTGO has had and may or may not still have, it still lets people draft whenever they want and people will pay for that.
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MTGO sucks because people give WOTC $$$ the way it is now. Every time you play MTGO and pay for it you give them another reason to not make it poo poo.
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Sickening posted:MTGO sucks because people give WOTC $$$ the way it is now. Some Numbers posted:It turns out when you have a product that literally prints money, you don't have to invest money into improving it. All the more reason not to play on MTGO. v  v
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MTGO sucks because they're in constantly in "stabilize it so we can rewrite" which doesn't work when you're constantly having to implement new things that dramatically change the game. See: devoid, {} mana, etc. If WOTC were smart, which they're not, they'd have a separate team doing ground up front + back end rewrite that doesn't have to worry about the state of current MTGO.
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I haven't spent money on MODO in three years and I am pretty sure I am up a grand
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Angry Grimace posted:I'm not even gimmick posting when I say MTGO works fine. They fixed a lot of the poo poo that people complain about. It loads your collection the first time you tab into it sorta slow, but everything else works as expected. it didnt crash when i played it today maybe i can beleive
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born on a buy you posted:MTGO sucks because they're in constantly in "stabilize it so we can rewrite" which doesn't work when you're constantly having to implement new things that dramatically change the game. See: devoid, {} mana, etc. If WOTC were smart, which they're not, they'd have a separate team doing ground up front + back end rewrite that doesn't have to worry about the state of current MTGO. I think this is where the (ill-timed) culling of 2HG and other formats came from. They've also steadily gotten better at lining up digital releases with physical ones, so they must be accomplishing something. ..right?
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