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TheChirurgeon posted:The old space marines weapon sprue had an autopistol on it. That may be your best bet. Oh poo poo, I just checked with my friend and he still has a shitload of those. Good catch, thanks!
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What is the painting crowd recommending for primers these days? I drove up from Norfolk to Milwaukee (moving) and forgot I had my paints/primers/finish in the trunk. It's a much different temperature here
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I stand by Duplicolor Sandable Auto Primer.
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Boon posted:What is the painting crowd recommending for primers these days? I drove up from Norfolk to Milwaukee (moving) and forgot I had my paints/primers/finish in the trunk. Vallejo primer. (Make sure its really is primer and not the primer colored paint they make for use with WW vehicles)
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I'm a Rustoleum man, myself.
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No more rattle cans, no more skunked rattle cans. gently caress primers that go fuzzy.
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Krylon satin black primer is my go to. With how much of that stuff I used in 2015, I should consider buying stock in the company.
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Someone leaked the 'Starter Army' bundle formations: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?415816-New-release-Bundles&p=7589123&viewfull=1#post7589123 quote:SM Considering there is a Dread in the SM bundle, you could have a double-tapping pair of TLACs, and the Necrons apparently never die?
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GW chaos black worked well so far, but I know you guys hate giving GW money.
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Thought you guys might like some breaking news from the UK.Newsthump.com posted:Warhammer players seize branch of Games Workshop
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Those Ultramarines look very nice with the metallic effects, love it.
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Those formation bonuses are... weird. Uroboros posted:GW chaos black worked well so far, but I know you guys hate giving GW money.
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If those are real Age of Emperor
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Derpstriking gargoyles is the formation tyranids needs, not the formation tyranids want (or need).
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BULBASAUR posted:If those are real Yeah, I can't get to Warseer (and why would I want to?) but those sound like bullshit and also like something GW would happily poo poo out into their customer's open, quivering mouths.
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SRM posted:Those formation bonuses are... weird. Yeah, I know. I'm just there in the store trying to help them out, Hobby Lobby almost never has what I want, so gently caress them. The one time I did use their primer I made the mistake of using white...
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Did GW publish a mixed Cult Mechanicus/Imperial Guard detachment somewhere or did I imagine that? If so, does anyone know where it was published?
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KuangMkV posted:Did GW publish a mixed Cult Mechanicus/Imperial Guard detachment somewhere or did I imagine that? If so, does anyone know where it was published? They did but I am unsure where to find it, also where are the new White Scar and Raven Guard rules? Anyway, thoughts on a banner for the Suzerain to proxy as either a chapter banner or standard of the emp? I have a Company Banner that I can magnetize, or a back pack banner Tigurius that I never used.
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The White Scars and Raven Guard stuff is in the Kauyon supplement. Looking at the Starter Pack formations, they really don't seem as bad as initially reported, mostly because they're really small. Take the SM one, for example: your formation is a Captain in Terminator armor, a Tac squad, and a Ven Dread (not a unit, a single model). The Captain has to be within 12" of the unit that you want to shoot in the Movement phase, so really that means that you're paying a lot of points for an HQ who's going to hang out in the backfield and not contribute a whole lot other than enabling the double tap. The Necron one seems a little more gross, but it's still a pretty small list and having to redeploy within 3" of the Overlord could prove to be tricky.
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How exactly does the mixing and matching between codexs work? Can I basically take anything Imperial together as one big Army? Like marines/guard/mechanics/sisters all mixed together? Or are there limits. I don't care about good/competitive, just what can be put on the table together. Oh god, wtf, I'm literally wanting to just collect some models to put on a table and find myself annoyed by wondering what rules apply... How did that happen?
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Cyclomatic posted:How exactly does the mixing and matching between codexs work? Can I basically take anything Imperial together as one big Army? Like marines/guard/mechanics/sisters all mixed together? Or are there limits. The way it works in current 40k: * Your army consists of at least one Detachment, but can include any number so long as you have the points. * Each Detachment consists of either a Force Org Chart (e.g. a Combined Arms Detachment) or a Formation (e.g. Skytalon). * Some Formations consist of sub-formations (e.g. Gladius Strike Force). * Most Detachments must be chosen from a single Faction (Codex) but there are exceptions (e.g. the one which combines both Mechanicus books with the Knights one). * You pick one Detachment to be your Primary one, and your Warlord comes from that. * If your army contains models from multiple Factions, you need to check on the Allies chart to see how they react to one another. Imperial forces are all Battle Brothers with each other so they count as one big happy family. So, your Imperial Army could include: * Imperial Guard Combined Arms Detachment (CAD) as a backbone. * An Imperial Assassin (since they have a Detachment choice which consists of 1 Assassin) * A Skittering Manpile * Some Emo Angels as an Allied Detachment * Whatever else fits into a relevant force org chart or detachment Alternately: * Go unbound!
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Zark the Damned posted:The way it works in current 40k: gently caress aaaaallllll of this poo poo.
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Zark the Damned posted:The way it works in current 40k: Note that depending on the army you play the combinations goes from "unkillable army with rerolls to everything ever and all the free stuff" to "is able to take slightly more killa kans".
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LordAba posted:Note that depending on the army you play the combinations goes from "unkillable army with rerolls to everything ever and all the free stuff" to "is able to take slightly more killa kans". don't forget "has access to literally zero formations outside of event hand-outs or web exclusive dataslates and is basically hosed"
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Zark the Damned posted:The way it works in current 40k: Christ, this is bad. Why do they even pretend this is a game anymore? They openly don't care for it.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:Christ, this is bad. Why do they even pretend this is a game anymore? They openly don't care for it. WM/H has kinda fallen into being dogshit as a game that supports its model range right now. The radioactive dogshit GW rules are less of an opportunity cost I'm thinking, and GW is MUCH better on the hobby part. No other real choices for 28mm Army scale. Hobby game, when everyone's value of game is weak means hobby counts a lot. At least that is how I'm seeing things right now.
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As we all know, making the best* models in the industry means that you make the worse** rules in the industry. It's like how artists are poo poo at math, why I don't have a girlfriend despite being a nice guy. *looking at the recent stuff, not exactly the best anymore **I've played a lot of games, and yeah it is one of the worse.
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Cyclomatic posted:Oh god, wtf, I'm literally wanting to just collect some models to put on a table and find myself annoyed by wondering what rules apply... How did that happen?
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:Christ, this is bad. Why do they even pretend this is a game anymore? They openly don't care for it. It is but it isn't. It has one benefit in that there is an amazing amount of diversity within factions. I have IG as a "base" and currently however I want to take it, I toss in some Inquisition, or maybe Cypher and a unit of chosen. Lately I've been using the following: Guard CAD Inquisitorial detachment focused on CC Assassin in its own detachment Even with the above, I still have the ability to mix and match more. Sisters? Knights? Grey Knights? I can also go a different route, run the IG with Cypher and a unit of chosen. I can still legally summon and ally with daemons and Chaos, with a traitor faction. IG are fantastic if you like changing things up all the time.
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The opportunity to mix and match armies with allies is super cool and allows for some really cool thematic poo poo, like all BuffaloChicken's stuff. I've been basing all my armies with the same basing so I can do just such a thing, and I might be able to at some point. It has a lot of potential for abuse, but if you're fortunate enough to play with likeminded people who won't play powergamey bullshit it's not really a problem. My biggest frustration with the rules as they are is that they're all over the place and if I wanted to run some armies I'd need to carry around half a dozen codices, supplements, dataslates, and so on with me. I stick with one, maybe two codices most of the time because of how unwieldy it can get.
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Because he's a colossal moron, my brother says I can have most of his 40k stuff because he heard a rumor that GW is shutting down. I read through about 300 new replies waiting with bated breath, to no avail. 
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But if GW shuts down, won't their stuff become collector's goods by default?
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Post 9-11 User posted:Because he's a colossal moron, my brother says I can have most of his 40k stuff because he heard a rumor that GW is shutting down. Idiot believes stupid Internet rumor, makes financially unwise decision. News at 11.
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As annoying and broken as some combinations are let us not forget other popular games like MTG suffer from innumerable broken deck builds if weren't for restricted lists and tournaments that greatly hamper what you can bring. There is like a hundred different ways to break that game, the only difference is they actively try to undo their past gently caress-ups while GW can't even manage something as simple as rules clarifications. Even if GW bankrupted tomorrow wouldn't someone else buy the rights to 40k like a day later?
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T.G. Xarbala posted:But if GW shuts down, won't their stuff become collector's goods by default? None of this stuff is worth poo poo unless there's a game to back it up. MAYBE unbuilt models of certain cool things would be a collector's item but I seriously doubt the market for used 40k stuff would get better.
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They're tiny objects of jewel-like wonder or w/e, and their value is inherent.
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ghetto wormhole posted:None of this stuff is worth poo poo unless there's a game to back it up. You're right, but I can see some people of the mind that actual games to back up one's hobbyist gaming product are otiose in a niche.
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Uroboros posted:As annoying and broken as some combinations are let us not forget other popular games like MTG suffer from innumerable broken deck builds if weren't for restricted lists and tournaments that greatly hamper what you can bring. There is like a hundred different ways to break that game, the only difference is they actively try to undo their past gently caress-ups while GW can't even manage something as simple as rules clarifications. Actually, let's forget that other games are "innumerable broken" without restrictions because it doesn't help at all. Doesn't Wizards of the Coast hold tournaments, bless the formats, etc? Like you said, they actively rebalance and shake things up... Certainly more than Games Workshop, who actively removed themselves from that field. In other words the two armies I play are Tyranids and Sisters.
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LordAba posted:Actually, let's forget that other games are "innumerable broken" without restrictions because it doesn't help at all. Doesn't Wizards of the Coast hold tournaments, bless the formats, etc? Like you said, they actively rebalance and shake things up... Certainly more than Games Workshop, who actively removed themselves from that field. Tyranids are actually a bit of a bad example, as Games Workshop pretty much admitted that they hosed them in the last codex and did an apology tour of new awesome models and a decent codex revamp with a ton of Formations. They're still middle-tier but at least they've got a little something extra. Still no real answer for Gargantuan Creatures, but there's quite a few armies that are in a similar situation with that. Whereas
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Games like MtG actually mitigate game-breaking elements because there's typically 1) a hard counter, and 2) the stars must line up exactly to execute it. Playing card X and then Y might automatically win a game, but you need access to both cards, they need to be in your hand, you need the resources to play both, one must survive until you play the other, neither can be countered, etc.
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