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MikeJF posted:That was only on a hatch that Picard had opened and is normally shut. Windows are transparent aluminium. Aluminum is garbage in space, expands and contracts from heat too much. Also very weak against heat, as far as armour goes. I guess it's better than glass. But man, just have a holographic window in every crew quarter. Also put the bridge in the middle of the ship, they're using a view-screen anyways! It's only at the top of the ship for the skylight.
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:Right, but they're absolutely military. I mean we could call the US Navy the Oceanic Survey and Exploration Committee and Super Friendship Club but it is not fooling anyone. It's not fooling anyone if the ships are actually meant to be armed survey vessels.
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drilldo squirt posted:It's not fooling anyone if the ships are actually meant to be armed survey vessels. but its the federations de facto force projection. It enforces the neutral zone ffs edit: here let me say this, it may not be the military in spirit, but it is effectively the military by virtue of its role. CHICKEN SHOES fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Jan 8, 2016 04:27
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MikeJF posted:That was only on a hatch that Picard had opened and is normally shut. Windows are transparent aluminium. Unless a guest star screws up and goes just a LITTLE too far into the window hole...   Also pictured: John Doe's clearly-defined frontal area. (This is why bike shorts are usually matte black, folks...)
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edit i'm dumb regarding windows
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Powered Descent posted:
The future is skin tight and poorly written.
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:but its the federations de facto force projection. It enforces the neutral zone ffs Keep in mind we are only seeing when stuff goes wrong or is dangerous. I don't think everyday star fleet would make good tv.
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Jan 8, 2016 04:36
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Fair enough. The TV stuff can be boring enough!
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:Fair enough. The TV stuff can be boring enough! Fo sho.
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I had to do a double take. Thought he said Bashir. Now that would be a sexy metaphor 
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In Star Trek 4 I always interpreted it as Scotty trading the secrets to transparent aluminum for the acrylic that they needed, but everyone else Ive ever talked to says that stuff IS the transparent aluminum. which is it?
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Gutcruncher posted:In Star Trek 4 I always interpreted it as Scotty trading the secrets to transparent aluminum for the acrylic that they needed, but everyone else Ive ever talked to says that stuff IS the transparent aluminum. which is it? You're right, they're wrong.
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Gutcruncher posted:In Star Trek 4 I always interpreted it as Scotty trading the secrets to transparent aluminum for the acrylic that they needed, but everyone else Ive ever talked to says that stuff IS the transparent aluminum. which is it? It was a trade. http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Transparent_aluminum
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Well, unless there's a long pause where they just hangout on earth for a shitton of years before they get their finished product. The dude even says "It'll take me years to even understand this." or something like that.
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The General posted:Well, unless there's a long pause where they just hangout on earth for a shitton of years before they get their finished product. The dude even says "It'll take me years to even understand this." or something like that. Yeah it's pure luck he didn't gently caress up the timeline.
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scotty does not give a gently caress about time paradoxes he's got to build a whale aquarium in a klingon cargo hold, when that is your life everything goes out the window. tell an engineer to solve an engineering problem and this is what happens.
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Considering the plot of the movie is "bring two whales forward in time or the Federation is destroyed" I'm not going to lose sleep with Scotty interfering with the past.
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:Right, but they're absolutely military. I mean we could call the US Navy the Oceanic Survey and Exploration Committee and Super Friendship Club but it is not fooling anyone. Weirdly it seemed like in TOS, Rodenberry and the other show-runners had no problem with Starfleet basically being the military and the Enterprise being a military vessel, even if it was one on an 'exploration' mission. It wasn't until TNG that Rodenberry seemed to really start pushing his weird utopian ideas about what the Federation was supposed to be. Like you never saw kids and families on the original Enterprise.
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In the Typhon Pact novels Nanietta Bacco (fed president) is given the options of using Federation Security or Starfleet Intelligence to infiltrate the Breen - she chooses Starfleet saying that "the military is better equipped to pull this one off", so there
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Entropic posted:Weirdly it seemed like in TOS, Rodenberry and the other show-runners had no problem with Starfleet basically being the military and the Enterprise being a military vessel, even if it was one on an 'exploration' mission. It wasn't until TNG that Rodenberry seemed to really start pushing his weird utopian ideas about what the Federation was supposed to be. Like you never saw kids and families on the original Enterprise. From what I've heard, Rodenberry wasnt happy with how Starfleet was portrayed in Wrath of Khan, being the military and nothing else as opposed to a peaceful organization of exploration and science that was also the military. TNG was likely him overcompensating
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DarkMalfunction posted:In the Typhon Pact novels Nanietta Bacco (fed president) is given the options of using Federation Security or Starfleet Intelligence to infiltrate the Breen - she chooses Starfleet saying that "the military is better equipped to pull this one off", so there Those officially non-canon novels you mean?
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Kitchner posted:Those officially non-canon novels you mean? Officially non-canon? Compared to what? Isn't everything non-canon after Enterprise other than the JJTrek movies? Paramount have even gone on record saying that other than the two Jeri Taylor novels, all books and whatever are non-canon. Bearing in mind most, if not all licensed Star Trek authors works their books round the same story/timeline/universe (Typhon Pact, Destiny, Full Circle novels, the entire SCE series et al all work in the same way referencing each other, and that's tens if not hundreds of books), I figure that's the closest thing we have to a canon continuation, unless you wanna consider Star Trek Online's lovely writing canon. Besides, I doubt CBS/Paramount is ever gonna do anything with any of the series characters again, so if all these authors have managed to keep the characters going in more or less the same storyline... they've all fleshed out the Romulan War, the post Dominion War era, etc, that the show never went into or probably has any intentions to go into, so... e: I did forget briefly about that new show Michael Dorn was meant to be working on - when's that gonna be set? Because if that goes completely against the major book's storylines it could be quite comical to see authors getting angry that their work is wasted. DarkMalfunction fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Roddenberry is dead, everything is canon now. Canon is a matter of individual taste, nothing to do with who ever happens to be the arbitrary IP rights owner at the particular moment. Post Dominion War stuff? Hmm I've never read any of the books, lets see what important post-war details this star trek wikipedia think are most worth mentioning. "Tuition in the Klingon university system underwent a hike during the Dominion War, which was frozen until 2401, at which point the Klingon High Council decided to lower the tuition by 300 darseks/year. (Star Trek: The Stoneship Files: "The Defector") " Interesting. Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Baronjutter posted:Roddenberry is dead, everything is canon now. Canon is a matter of individual taste, nothing to do with who ever happens to be the arbitrary IP rights owner at the particular moment. There is that case of heavily damaged floppy discs of Gene's that were data recovered and turned over to the Roddenberry estate just last week. There could be new old canon on its way, like an extra page of Ferengi sexual prowess described in vivid detail.
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Baronjutter posted:"Tuition in the Klingon university system underwent a hike during the Dominion War, which was frozen until 2401, at which point the Klingon High Council decided to lower the tuition by 300 darseks/year. (Star Trek: The Stoneship Files: "The Defector") " Funny thing is, that's actually a better story than the stupid storyline Destiny came up with about eradicating the Borg and the whole Caeliar crap that's about as tenuous as a Final Destination movie.
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DarkMalfunction posted:Funny thing is, that's actually a better story than the stupid storyline Destiny came up with about eradicating the Borg and the whole Caeliar crap that's about as tenuous as a Final Destination movie. The biggest crime of those books was that Harry Kim was a Lieutenant. I did enjoy the Troi poison womb storyline though, until the god awful ending that is.
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Entropic posted:Weirdly it seemed like in TOS, Rodenberry and the other show-runners had no problem with Starfleet basically being the military and the Enterprise being a military vessel, even if it was one on an 'exploration' mission. It wasn't until TNG that Rodenberry seemed to really start pushing his weird utopian ideas about what the Federation was supposed to be. Like you never saw kids and families on the original Enterprise. Roddenberry's views shifted during the 70s especially after he started experimenting beyond just weed and booze
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Roddenberry's views shifted during the 70s especially after he started experimenting beyond just weed and booze Got hard into the beetle snuff.
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DarkMalfunction posted:Officially non-canon? Compared to what? Isn't everything non-canon after Enterprise other than the JJTrek movies? Paramount have even gone on record saying that other than the two Jeri Taylor novels, all books and whatever are non-canon. Bearing in mind most, if not all licensed Star Trek authors works their books round the same story/timeline/universe (Typhon Pact, Destiny, Full Circle novels, the entire SCE series et al all work in the same way referencing each other, and that's tens if not hundreds of books), I figure that's the closest thing we have to a canon continuation, unless you wanna consider Star Trek Online's lovely writing canon. Please tell me more about how what is essentially published fan fiction is canon and how much it means to you that no one challenges this.
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Kitchner posted:Please tell me more about how what is essentially published fan fiction is canon and how much it means to you that no one challenges this. I never said it was canon btw, just closest thing, source your quotes better
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also holy gently caress Roddenberry did some massive drugs in his time, at least the internet says so so it must be true
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Like the guy up above said, I can't wait until they crack open these disks of Roddenberrys, it will be like Geraldo and Capone's vault, but it will be all just talking about how Troi's half human half betazoid physiology means her pussy gets like mega wet
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Oh and lol, Guinan introduced Worf to prune juice and he calls it a warriors drink? Yesterday's Enterprise is a loving wacky episode. I still love that Tasha Yar got killed by a guy covered in trashbags in the normal timeline. Not that I blame her for wanting out of the show but lol what a shameful way to die, with all the fanfare of a redshirt getting clobbered by a Gorn in TOS edit: Oh and I finally watched Galaxy Quest. Not sure why I waited so long since I think Sigourney Weaver is like incredibly gorgeous. Like someone else said before, it truly is one of the best star trek movies.
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Any good spaceship shows out right now? OTHER SPACE is great, but it's a workplace comedy send-up about a bunch of goofy bozos lost in an alternate dimension vaguely similar to Red Dwarf so it's kind of limited in scope. Dark Matter is coming back for another season, which is awful because it is a piece of shiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttttttt edit goddamn stop debating canonicity what the gently caress
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If you like spaceships and sci fi drama and you aren't watching The Expanse you're doing yourself a disservice, apparently it's based on a book series but I haven't read anything about it and I'm getting into the show no problem I really, really love the spaceships in it. No artificial gravity, everybody's got mag boots and 1G scenes all take place when the ships are under thrust or tumbling. I know it's sperg stuff but *drools*
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I tried watching the first episode of Dark Matter and its so bad, and I like B5 and Star Trek lol
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Tighclops posted:If you like spaceships and sci fi drama and you aren't watching The Expanse you're doing yourself a disservice, apparently it's based on a book series but I haven't read anything about it and I'm getting into the show no problem I've started reading the books after catching the pilot. They're even better than the show. It's like Aaron Allston level of humor mixed with the bleakness of Game of Thrones. In space. Edit: gently caress. I forgot this was the Star Trek thread and not Star Wars and namedropped the Wraith Squadron guy.
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