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Doughty's given a timeline of events to try and make it clear it was all above board. He did it 'so people wouldn't have a chance to smear me'.
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baka kaba posted:Nobody's questioning his motives though so uh Yeah I don't think he quite gets why people are angry.
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The funny thing is, if anything this makes it easier to smear him - instead of quietly bowing out on principle, he ends up being used as a tool to put the boot in on Corbyn and maximise the political damage. Which might have been what he was going for but I don't know how this would avoid getting called out on it
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Guavanaut posted:Facebook is here with the news that the BBC won't tell you. It's no #drummondpuddlewatch, that's for sure.
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When people were talking decades ago about people turning news into lowest common denominator entertainment, I don't think they realised how far we had left to sink...
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Wait until the Tories give the news carte blanche to lie on air in the name of free speech.serious gaylord posted:Doughty's given a timeline of events to try and make it clear it was all above board. He did it 'so people wouldn't have a chance to smear me'.
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My favourite is still this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ99VULQRI4
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baka kaba posted:The funny thing is, if anything this makes it easier to smear him - instead of quietly bowing out on principle, he ends up being used as a tool to put the boot in on Corbyn and maximise the political damage. Which might have been what he was going for but I don't know how this would avoid getting called out on it nobody knew who he was before he did this so all he's done is piss people off and look like a massive dick
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Its made the mail and guardian websites but it is starting to run out of steam now. http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jan/08/bbc-stephen-doughty-daily-politics-laura-kuenssberg
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G4S staff choking, suffocating, punching, and stabbing with forks children under their care.quote:Staff members from the G4S security group punched and suffocated children in a series of incidents amounting to abuse and mistreatment of the young people in their charge, it has been claimed. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...s-a6802071.html
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 Oberleutnant posted:G4S staff choking, suffocating, punching, and stabbing with forks children under their care. This stuff isn't even surprising anymore. Private enterprise sure knows how to cut that oversight red tape!
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I can't wait until G4S replace the police and justice system entirely, they have such a good track record! I mean, they've not had a Hillsborough yet, but they'll get there in no time, I'm sure
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baka kaba posted:This stuff isn't even surprising anymore. Private enterprise sure knows how to cut that oversight red tape! For cost efficiency reasons, public might be better. For child protection reasons, they should probably all be wearing bodycams or something.
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Guavanaut posted:Unfortunately where children are involved I'm not sure you can say the public sector has a better record. At least they didn't rape them or give access keys to a serial predator. That we know of yet. Weren't G4S involved in the Yarl's Wood allegations?
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kingturnip posted:Also, I wouldn't be desperately surprised if the Mail picked the story up. Not today. They've gone with cage being allowed to give 13 lectures challenging prevent in 2015, despite the mail making a huge fuss through most of 2015 about people being barred from speaking at unis Namtab fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Pesmerga posted:That we know of yet. Weren't G4S involved in the Yarl's Wood allegations?
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Guavanaut posted:It wouldn't surprise me, but having staff around children who are abusive pieces of poo poo is far from something unique to the private sector. The private sector has different perverse incentives to cover it up, like it affecting the chances of their contract being renewed, but some kind of better oversight is clearly necessary no matter which sector is dealing with the kids. Oh true, I agree completely. I think the past few years have showed that public and private can be equally abusive, better oversight, transparency and accountability is without doubt needed in both. My comment was more 'always assume that whatever you hear about G4S, it's probably going to get worse'.
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An articulate and devastating takedown of the recent behaviour of the Blairites from small c conservative Tim Stanley: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12088221/Jeremy-Corbyns-Labour-critics-have-got-more-cheek-than-a-baboons-bottom.html Edit: godammit Pistol_Pete fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Bill Clinton should be president of everything forever:    
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LemonDrizzle posted:Bill Clinton should be president of everything forever: These are most likely fake i'm afraid. The plates one certainly is.
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Oh well, made me laugh.
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Guavanaut posted:It wouldn't surprise me, but having staff around children who are abusive pieces of poo poo is far from something unique to the private sector. The private sector has different perverse incentives to cover it up, like it affecting the chances of their contract being renewed, but some kind of better oversight is clearly necessary no matter which sector is dealing with the kids. Yeah pretty much, but at least with the public sector you tend to have inquiries and consequences. If Jimmy Saville had been a private company he'd have been given a new contract, or at least had to bow out for while (replaced by Simmy Javille)
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Pistol_Pete posted:An articulate and devastating takedown of the recent behaviour of the Blairites from small c conservative Tim Stanley: Fixed your link
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baka kaba posted:Yeah pretty much, but at least with the public sector you tend to have inquiries and consequences. If Jimmy Saville had been a private company he'd have been given a new contract, or at least had to bow out for while (replaced by Simmy Javille) Probably not the best example since Saville in fact never faced any consequences
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So McFadden got the can and some other shadow ministers quit in a blaze of publicity that meant their names will be half-remembered forever. lol
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Last year a couple of people in the thread asked for notice of whenever the Marx Memorial Library holds its next online course in political economy, and it's starting at the end of the month. Signups are here. I've never taken an MML course so I can't speak to the quality of it, but it's there and it's £20 for four classes with a £10 concession rate for low waged/unwaged.quote:The course is at an introductory level. It seeks to identify the key differences between Marx's approach and those of neo-liberal economics. It considers how Marx defines labour as the only source of new value and its implications for the understanding of capitalist crisis.
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LemonDrizzle posted:Oh well, made me laugh. /  e: They are pretty good though.
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General China posted:I bought some potassium nitrate off amazon a month ago.
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Cerv posted:Probably not the best example since Saville in fact never faced any consequences They moved his headstone and everything
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baka kaba posted:They moved his headstone and everything
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quote:The Labour leader's most significant victory was over defence. Trident supporter Maria Eagle, now shadow culture secretary, was replaced in the brief by Emily Thornberry, an opponent of renewal. This, as CND has been quick to hail, paves the way for Labour to become a unilateralist party for the first time since 1989. "We were too focused on Hilary [Benn] and they got one over on us with Emily's appointment," a shadow minister told me. If Corbyn is such a bumbling old fool then I'm not sure what it says about the Blairites that (by their own admission) he keeps outfoxing them.
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Same sort of thing it says about them that they were overwhelmingly crushed in the leadership election by the most unelectable man in Britain.
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Guavanaut posted:They moved it to the other end so it's now a pedstone. 
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Didn't Conference end up voting for Trident? This could be a little awkward from a perspective of empowering the base.
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Pistol_Pete posted:An articulate and devastating takedown of the recent behaviour of the Blairites from small c conservative Tim Stanley: The last line though! quote:Unless the Labour Right actively campaigns for a leader and for an agenda that can win Labour a majority, they will be easily cast as wreckers, scabs and traitors. And the Left historically has never been kind to those. If that's not a dogwhistle about Stalinist purges then I am massively over-sensitive to right-wing nonsense because of too much internet over the past 15 years.
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