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Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

:thumbsup: I'm just a random dude on the Internet, but I think you made the right call based on the info you posted. Going back there was just going to press pause on your career and pay for 2 years.

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Rapner
May 7, 2013


Judge Schnoopy posted:

Finally called my old boss back and passed on the job offer to go back. It just doesn't make sense to give up my benefits which include 6 certs this year including VCP. I can't exactly get in to upper management anyway due to my lack of 4 year degree so that career track is going to be a giant headache. I'll stay on my current track for network admin, senior admin, architect which I should be able to schmooze my way through with certs.

And with all my spare time WGU looks really enticing.

Sounds like the right call, but depending on what country you're in you can get at least parts of a 4 year degree on recognition of prior learning. I'm in the process of doing this in Australia, then I'll probably do the last year of a Bachelor of Computer Science part time.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal
I've got a 2 year degree so I'm a "college graduate". Gets past hr for technical jobs but from what I've seen, management usually always has a 4 year degree hard requirement. I don't think it's necessary but would probably pull in higher salaries if I had it.

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik

Sr. Admin posted:

Not sure if I ate something bad at lunch today, but have been sick most of the night….I will definitely not be in the office in the AM, will see if things are better by the afternoon.

Uhuh. Sure. Hope the second interview and piss test go well, I look forward to getting a promotion when you leave!

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I've worked for a tribal casino, in slots and in IT.

If you get a job at MGM, you might meet a guy named Corky who introduced me to VMware.

In the casino business, expect to work with a lot of poorly designed proprietary applications.

Any specific questions?

In general, how was working for a resort? From what I've seen in the Midwest IT is treated poorly, given no budget yet management expects the world and also managed to lease a new Mercedes every year. :smith:

I was surprised to see so much positive feedback on MGM's Glassdoor, is it as good as they claim? Does MGM actually require a degree for their IT-Positions?

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


GreenNight posted:

Did I mention his normal network account is Enterprise Admin?

What's the "right" way to setup a windows domain? As far as I am aware, there isn't any built in JIT Access.

Are you recommending everyone should just have normal user accounts and only use admin accounts when needed?

dox
Mar 4, 2006

Tab8715 posted:

Are you recommending everyone should just have normal user accounts and only use admin accounts when needed?

Yes, exactly. Also, no GUI on servers and RSAT only from a dedicated admin machine. But at a certain point, depending on the size your environment, you're moving towards whats best but perhaps not exactly feasible.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Tab8715 posted:

What's the "right" way to setup a windows domain? As far as I am aware, there isn't any built in JIT Access.

Are you recommending everyone should just have normal user accounts and only use admin accounts when needed?

Its preferable. Forcing Support users to need to escalate in order to do administrative changes helps assure that they are less likely to make mistaken changes.

That, and ensuring that they have a need to access various security roles, i.e. only giving them roles that they actually need access to daily so that if they need to make changes outside their normal boundaries they have to escalate.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


dox posted:

Yes, exactly. Also, no GUI on servers and RSAT only from a dedicated admin machine. But at a certain point, depending on the size your environment, you're moving towards whats best but perhaps not exactly feasible.

No GUI is Server Core, correct? Does that mean absolutely everything must be done via Powershell or is there a way a connecting guest may still use RDP?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Tab8715 posted:

No GUI is Server Core, correct? Does that mean absolutely everything must be done via Powershell or is there a way a connecting guest may still use RDP?

Yes, its Server Core. You can still manage the server via Server Manager, but most things will have to be done via Powershell. I want to say that RDP DOES work, but it still gives you a powershell Window unless the server is also running a Terminal Server, in which case you can get a desktop but will act as a separate machine.

mayodreams
Jul 4, 2003


Hello darkness,
my old friend

CommieGIR posted:

Its preferable. Forcing Support users to need to escalate in order to do administrative changes helps assure that they are less likely to make mistaken changes.

That, and ensuring that they have a need to access various security roles, i.e. only giving them roles that they actually need access to daily so that if they need to make changes outside their normal boundaries they have to escalate.

That goes for systems teams too. I don't like giving the networking guys Domain Admin just because it's easier. If they need to manage DNS and DHCP, give them admin access for those roles.

To follow up from yesterday, all of our Service Desk people are Domain Admins, and because there is a trust with our production domains.... guess what!? I told my boss who is the CISO and he was extremely unhappy as the SD reports to him too.
I am adding delegated roles in AD to the proper OU and creating an admin server post haste.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

mayodreams posted:

That goes for systems teams too. I don't like giving the networking guys Domain Admin just because it's easier. If they need to manage DNS and DHCP, give them admin access for those roles.

To follow up from yesterday, all of our Service Desk people are Domain Admins, and because there is a trust with our production domains.... guess what!? I told my boss who is the CISO and he was extremely unhappy as the SD reports to him too.
I am adding delegated roles in AD to the proper OU and creating an admin server post haste.

Yeah, the idea is find someone in the support team that you trust and give them domain admin, and require other support users to get admin changes done through him in order to facilitate some sort of official privilege escalation.

That or train someone

beepsandboops
Jan 28, 2014
Anybody dealt with voicemail spam? We keep getting these pre-recorded voicemails coming in from all different numbers at different times to different extensions.

I assume (and everybody I've talked to about this has told me) that it's like spam or junk mail--something you can mitigate and manage, but never really stop. The most I've been able to do is to reduce the time limit on voicemails.

Mulloy
Jan 3, 2005

I am your best friend's wife's sword student's current roommate.
Are there any recommendations for configuration management? We've had a few snafus where manual config changes had typos or QA thought one thing and production thought another, etc... where we'd like to get around this by having a repository that our systems could interact with to try and rule out as much of that as possible.

I've heard Chef is in that arena but I have no experience with anything like this. Ideally it'd be able to handle both servers and network devices.

Edit: vvv Thanks, I appreciate it. I will spend some time looking at those but hitting the ground with one of them is a good point.

Mulloy fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jan 8, 2016

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

Config management is cool and good, and you should definitely be doing it! The big names are Chef, Puppet, SaltStack and Ansible. Which you choose doesn't matter as much as just picking one and getting started, because doing system administration in TYOOL 2016 with zero config management tooling is kind of terrifying.

Chef and Puppet: Older and more mature. Very large and robust communities and software ecosystems. Written in Ruby, so you need to write Ruby if you want to start getting more advanced with them. Chef has pretty good hooks for Windows if that's important to you.

SaltStack and Ansible: Newer, leaner (the Chef/Puppet guys would probably restate this as "less complete" heh). Written and extensible in Python. SaltStack also gets you very robust remote execution features for free. Ansible is agentless and runs over plain old SSH connections which some people really love.

None of the vendors has a great story for managing network gear. Do some searches for "<your network vendor> + <name of each config management tool>" and see if anything comes up.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Docjowles posted:

Config management is cool and good, and you should definitely be doing it! The big names are Chef, Puppet, SaltStack and Ansible. Which you choose doesn't matter as much as just picking one and getting started, because doing system administration in TYOOL 2016 with zero config management tooling is kind of terrifying.

Chef and Puppet: Older and more mature. Very large and robust communities and software ecosystems. Written in Ruby, so you need to write Ruby if you want to start getting more advanced with them. Chef has pretty good hooks for Windows if that's important to you.

SaltStack and Ansible: Newer, leaner (the Chef/Puppet guys would probably restate this as "less complete" heh). Written and extensible in Python. SaltStack also gets you very robust remote execution features for free. Ansible is agentless and runs over plain old SSH connections which some people really love.

None of the vendors has a great story for managing network gear. Do some searches for "<your network vendor> + <name of each config management tool>" and see if anything comes up.
You forgot to mention Desired State Configuration :downs:

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

anthonypants posted:

You forgot to mention Desired State Configuration :downs:

~~idempotence~~

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

luminalflux posted:

Accurate enough that they're the only vendor we use and we're one of their featured clients. I'm not in DCOps though so I just get a pile of servers' IPMI addresses handed to me after DCOps and Network has done their stuff, I don't really deal with any snafus with Racklive if they arise.

LOL another rack arrived today which was: Shipped to the wrong destination, re-routed to the correct one, and has a Racklive checklist error which prevented auto-provisioning.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

Docjowles posted:

None of the vendors has a great story for managing network gear. Do some searches for "<your network vendor> + <name of each config management tool>" and see if anything comes up.

If you have more money than sense then there's HP Network Automation. I've only got a little bit of experience with it personally, but it seems to get the job done.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

anthonypants posted:

You forgot to mention Desired State Configuration :downs:
DSC is pretty great, because the resources tie nicely into Puppet or Chef. On the other hand, I feel really bad for people using DSC on its own (by which I mean "inventing their own configuration management systems around DSC resources, because the DSC engine itself is crippleware.")

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Docjowles posted:

None of the vendors has a great story for managing network gear. Do some searches for "<your network vendor> + <name of each config management tool>" and see if anything comes up.

Juniper is making some pretty good strides on this front. Keep your eye on them for that. Cumulus we were able to get up on Salt in around a day (Bare node w/ ONI->Salt.)

Swink
Apr 18, 2006
Left Side <--- Many Whelps

Vulture Culture posted:

DSC is pretty great, because the resources tie nicely into Puppet or Chef. On the other hand, I feel really bad for people using DSC on its own (by which I mean "inventing their own configuration management systems around DSC resources, because the DSC engine itself is crippleware.")

Can you clarify this a bit? I'm trying to decide if DSC Is worth getting stuck into.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Swink posted:

Can you clarify this a bit? I'm trying to decide if DSC Is worth getting stuck into.
It's a lot better than nothing. Resources are easy to write, though there are some weird debugging gotchas around cached modules. The configuration syntax and the way you define abstractions around those resources is positively broken when you're used to something like Puppet or Chef.

e: At this point, Puppet seems to have the much saner integration, exposing DSC resources as Puppet resources, while Chef has a dsc_resource type that basically embeds PowerShell DSC code inside your Ruby. If you want to write or use custom DSC modules from Puppet, though, you'll need a wrapper type.

Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Jan 8, 2016

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



stubblyhead posted:

If you have more money than sense then there's HP Network Automation. I've only got a little bit of experience with it personally, but it seems to get the job done.

You better be using it for a hell of a lot more than just managing device configurations. Same with Netcool. Unless you have a "here's millions of dollars. Do what you want with it" budget.

lampey
Mar 27, 2012

Inspector_666 posted:

Are there any good VOIP providers out there at all? The MSP I was at recommended ShoreTel's cloud offering and we never really had problems with it (as long as they also went with our recommendation of a dedicated T1 for it), but my new job uses OneSource Networks and they're a complete shitshow.

Masergy/broadcore works great for us as an MSP. They work on a pay per feature method so if you do not need every feature for every extension it can be pretty affordable. Really great support.

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.

Tab8715 posted:

In general, how was working for a resort? From what I've seen in the Midwest IT is treated poorly, given no budget yet management expects the world and also managed to lease a new Mercedes every year. :smith:

I was surprised to see so much positive feedback on MGM's Glassdoor, is it as good as they claim? Does MGM actually require a degree for their IT-Positions?

I can tell you what it's like at a seasonal resort, which is a very low budget, and hanging by a thread in hopes for the correct weather.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Tab8715 posted:

In general, how was working for a resort? From what I've seen in the Midwest IT is treated poorly, given no budget yet management expects the world and also managed to lease a new Mercedes every year. :smith:

I was surprised to see so much positive feedback on MGM's Glassdoor, is it as good as they claim? Does MGM actually require a degree for their IT-Positions?

I've only worked at one casino so I can't speak for the entire industry, but I think there's enough money flowing in that people are a bit reluctant to try and cut too many corners.

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty


flosofl posted:

You better be using it for a hell of a lot more than just managing device configurations. Same with Netcool. Unless you have a "here's millions of dollars. Do what you want with it" budget.

Indeed, it's really expensive, just as the rest of their BTO suite. If you have the money, it's totally worth it though.

At my previous job we had NA, NNM, BSM, OMI, SiteScope, BPM, RUM, Operations Orchestration, Server Automation, uCMDB and ServiceManager all integrated. Thats some powerfull poo poo but drat that pricetag.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe
High five BTO suite buddy. I agree totally, I would never advocate using NA only for configuration management. That would be like getting a Swiss army knife and only using the toothpick. My company does a bunch of BTO consulting, let me know if you're ever looking to move back into that arena. If you know what you're doing with it and aren't a total dick we've probably got a place for you.

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty


stubblyhead posted:

High five BTO suite buddy. I agree totally, I would never advocate using NA only for configuration management. That would be like getting a Swiss army knife and only using the toothpick. My company does a bunch of BTO consulting, let me know if you're ever looking to move back into that arena. If you know what you're doing with it and aren't a total dick we've probably got a place for you.

I'm not a complete jerk, not retarded and worked with the tools from pre-HP era. Only thing is I'm living in Europe, do you guys have offices over here as well?

I worked with uCMDB for a year or 2 and can do pretty much anything except writing discovery pattern from scratch. Got almost 10 year experience with designing, building, configuring and maintaining BSM, SiteScope, BPM and RUM and have minor knowledge of OMi. Most of my experience with the other tools are integrating them into 1 big happy eco-system. I love the potential of the BTO suite, you can almost do anything with it.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I'm expecting to hear back from an interview Monday or Tuesday. The thing is, on Saturday I applied for a job I would like much better. Accepting the job I applied for and then rescinding my acceptance if I get an offer with the other would be poor form, right? The place I interviewed with has periodically scheduled new hire orientations that I would have to wait for before starting, could I probably at least stall a few days and hopefully see how an interview for the other place would go, if they respond that quickly?

I'm also hoping that if I get an interview, if it goes well I can at least use the high average salary offered at the second job to leverage an equal pay at the one I already interviewed for. It's at the top end of the pay range, but still within it.

Of course, there's the possibility I don't get the offer, but I think the interview went well. I've just never had multiple things going on at once for interviews, and this one I applied for Saturday would be a first step into programming.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





It's bad form, but it happens all the time. In my opinion, do what's right for you. Worry about pleasantries later.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I might just have to. I mean, I hate burning bridges at all, but getting into programming would be huge, and I'm probably moving within the year anyway (which sucks).

This is best case scenario anyway, though. There's a distinct possibility I won't get either job. Optimism can't hurt, though.

mewse
May 2, 2006

22 Eargesplitten posted:

I might just have to. I mean, I hate burning bridges at all, but getting into programming would be huge, and I'm probably moving within the year anyway (which sucks).

This is best case scenario anyway, though. There's a distinct possibility I won't get either job. Optimism can't hurt, though.

I'd advise against trying to stall on either of the positions, if it goes badly you could lose both jobs. Just follow through on both of them and if you need to ditch the first one to go to the second one, that's what the probationary period is for.

frogbert
Jun 2, 2007


I mean... If I was going to order that many tapes anyway I guess it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. :shrug:

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007

nesaM killed Masen
Can I have the toucan if you get one

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.
Better than the 0.65oz package of Kellogg's Krave cereal that was included in my last Monoprice order :shobon:

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


That's such a crazy promotion. I'm almost in awe.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

frogbert posted:



I mean... If I was going to order that many tapes anyway I guess it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. :shrug:

I think I know what I'm sending to our VAR with our next quote request.

http://www.sunnylife.com/pool-floats/inflatable-toucan

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KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


I REALLY wish I was in the marketing meeting where this was discussed.

"It's 4:30 on a Friday. Someone come up with something so we can all go home."

Edit: They used the wrong promotional image, IMO.



"Someone photoshop a beach in this image. Perfect."

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