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hitchensgoespop posted:Do we know for sure, that TV stannis is dead? Nope! IF you don't see them die on TV then they are never dead. The only exceptions to this have been Tara from True Blood and Arnold Rothstein in Boardwalk Empire (but his was because of a timeskip).
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The viewers guide confirms that Stan was killed by one Brienne maid of Tarth.
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Jan 8, 2016 15:33
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Hmmmmm.......... But seriously, though, they were "really super serious guys, jon is dead, hes cut his hair and everything.." and hes coming back, everyone seems pretty convinced stannis was killed yet hes in the same boat as jon, death off screen and "..yes, hes super dead, you sort of saw it didnt you.." to be clear, im on the fence but im remaining open minding till in know otherwise, i.e i see his head rolling about in the snow
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Jan 8, 2016 15:52
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I think they just ran out of budget in the last episode, everything was so rushed and lovely. Like they cut from that giant army surrounding Stannis's band of merry men, then cut to survivors being hunted down in a forest (how'd they get there/out from that mas of people? what happened in the battle? who knows?).
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Jan 8, 2016 15:55
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They never said Jon was not coming back, they said he's dead. Also Dillane hasn't filmed anything for the coming season while Harrington did.
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Jan 8, 2016 16:03
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Stannis being alive would both be interesting and also make Ramsay slightly less godlike, therefore it certainly won't be happening.
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what was all that stuff about kit harrington cutting his hair and saying that his last day was sad etc.. Heres the quote from fit kit himself ""I had a sit-down with Dan [Weiss] and David [Benioff], we did the Tony Soprano walk [letting an actor know they're being whacked.]. And they said, 'Look, you're gone, it's done'," he told Entertainment Weekly."
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hitchensgoespop posted:Hmmmmm.......... I believe there's been a bunch of official confirmations of Stannis's death, like a memorial image made for every dead character, that Jon notably did not get.
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Jan 8, 2016 16:39
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Botnit posted:Stannis being alive would both be interesting and also make Ramsay slightly less godlike, therefore it certainly won't be happening. Not sure what would be interesting about it. They killed his army and Mel abandoned him. There's kinda nothing left for him to do. At least in the books he'll have an army to say gently caress you to Jon and Mel with.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Nope! IF you don't see them die on TV then they are never dead. The only exceptions to this have been Tara from True Blood and Arnold Rothstein in Boardwalk Empire (but his was because of a timeskip). Well, and Ned Stark.
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Ginette Reno posted:Not sure what would be interesting about it. They killed his army and Mel abandoned him. There's kinda nothing left for him to do. "I swear by season 7 this show will basically be the Lannisters/Boltons/Freys holding gay orgies in King's Landing while Stannis and Davos conjure up a plan every episode to fuk them up but at the last minute it gets fuked up like Pinky and the Brain." What could have been.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:07
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computer parts posted:Well, and Ned Stark. He's coming back this season dude. A younger and stronger version even.
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Solice Kirsk posted:He's coming back this season dude. A younger and stronger version even. Typical ageism casting from Hollywood.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:23
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Stannis could always die but still win the battle. Or killed after the battle by someone. I can't remember if Davos is with him in the books, but I could see Stannis taking a mortal wound (arrow through the eye to get some classic Kingly death in here) and giving command over to Davos who wins the battle.
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twistedmentat posted:Stannis could always die but still win the battle. Or killed after the battle by someone. I can't remember if Davos is with him in the books, but I could see Stannis taking a mortal wound (arrow through the eye to get some classic Kingly death in here) and giving command over to Davos who wins the battle. Davos was off to find Rickon, Theon & Asha are there though.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:38
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Yeah, everyone thinks Davos is dead.
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computer parts posted:Davos was off to find Rickon, Theon & Asha are there though. Oh right, I can't believe I forgot that. Well then never mind. Unless something happens and he gives the army to Asha or something.
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Or he just gets beat by Ramsey.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Or he just gets beat by Ramsey. Yeah, that's gonna be what happens. And then Jon comes down and lays waste to the remains and then Rayder does.....something. But then Asha and Theon have to escape and Jeyne Poole probably stays behind and....Ugh, I hate the loving books. He bitched about the Meeeeerrrreeeeneessee Knot and yet actively created this northern poo poo show.
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I don't see why people get upset about Brienne killing Stannis. It's fitting for her or Loras to be his final killer. Unless you want irony of some sort and Melisandre does it or something. But thematically it fits just fine.
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It makes me wonder what the endgame role for Davos is. What are they gonna do with him in the show? Is he gonna go fetch Rickon for Jon? Is he just gonna sorta stand next to Jon for the rest of the series? What was the point of bringing him and Stannis to the Wall, just to save Jon and bring Melisandre in place?
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hanales posted:I don't see why people get upset about Brienne killing Stannis. It's fitting for her or Loras to be his final killer. Unless you want irony of some sort and Melisandre does it or something. He didn't actually have to die. Especially not then.
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hanales posted:I don't see why people get upset about Brienne killing Stannis. It's fitting for her or Loras to be his final killer. Unless you want irony of some sort and Melisandre does it or something. Because it's ridiculous for her to be present for the battle? She's just walking alone from Kings Landing all the way up to Winterfell for no reason and randomly is the only person to locate and find the king after a battle when every survivor on both sides should be hunting him down.
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Jan 9, 2016 00:09
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Steve2911 posted:He didn't actually have to die. Especially not then. Of course he has to die. He's done really awful things. Dying alone in the snow is a pretty kind death for him honestly.
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Austrian mook posted:Because it's ridiculous for her to be present for the battle? She's just walking alone from Kings Landing all the way up to Winterfell for no reason and randomly is the only person to locate and find the king after a battle when every survivor on both sides should be hunting him down. How is that honestly any more ridiculous than her wandering the river lands for months. Or Sam brushing up against arya and bran. Or any of the other of completely ridiculous coincidences and occur in these novels.
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hanales posted:How is that honestly any more ridiculous than her wandering the river lands for months. Or Sam brushing up against arya and bran. Or any of the other of completely ridiculous coincidences and occur in these novels. Whats ridiculous about her wandering the riverlands? Thats what knights do. At least Sam was actually where those characters existed, he didnt need to teleport across enemy occupied land to get somewhere.
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lifts cats over head posted:And then Melisandre says: "It looks like...baked potato is on the menu"  I wonder when/if we'll see Melisandre without her glamour spell. That's one of the minor book mysteries that I really want answered. What the gently caress IS she?
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Mouse Dresser posted:
George R R Martin.
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Mike N Eich posted:It makes me wonder what the endgame role for Davos is. What are they gonna do with him in the show? Is he gonna go fetch Rickon for Jon? Is he just gonna sorta stand next to Jon for the rest of the series? What was the point of bringing him and Stannis to the Wall, just to save Jon and bring Melisandre in place? E: it's like - the first principle of the show is the Law of Preservation of Screentime and Budget. Want Euron? Stannis has to die first to free the resources. A character plot has come to an end? Kill them off to free the resources. And so on. meristem fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Jan 9, 2016 |
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Mike N Eich posted:It makes me wonder what the endgame role for Davos is. What are they gonna do with him in the show? Is he gonna go fetch Rickon for Jon? Is he just gonna sorta stand next to Jon for the rest of the series? What was the point of bringing him and Stannis to the Wall, just to save Jon and bring Melisandre in place? He might be involved with the Ironborn plot line since boats are his thing.
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I figure Davos will: be Jon's new sidekick, kill Melisandre when he finds out about Shireen, die heroically against White Walkers because the White Walkers need to kill a major character.
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Jan 9, 2016 07:53
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Davos might just go on a solo adventure so we can see all the weird poo poo going down in Skagos while he looks for rickon and company
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hemophilia posted:Davos might just go on a solo adventure so we can see all the weird poo poo going down in Skagos while he looks for rickon and company Show-Rickon went to Last Hearth.
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hemophilia posted:Davos might just go on a solo adventure so we can see all the weird poo poo going down in Skagos while he looks for rickon and company That sounds bettwr than whatever the showrunners could come up with
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1-800-DOCTORB posted:He might be involved with the Ironborn plot line since boats are his thing. This is the most ridiculous thing and i instantly believe it.
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Jan 9, 2016 10:22
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Mouse Dresser posted:
Why does she have to be anything? Its not like Thoros is. I think its better if shes just some chick without an elaborate disguise.
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Jan 9, 2016 10:33
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Lycus posted:Show-Rickon went to Last Hearth. Really? Don't know why I don't remember that. That's a bummer. Whatever is gonna happen will probably suck then.
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zVxTeflon posted:Why does she have to be anything? Its not like Thoros is. I think its better if shes just some chick without an elaborate disguise. There's been too many oblique reference in both the show and the books (and by the actress) that Melisandre has been kicking around for 100+ years for it not to turn out that she is actually decrepit old fire zombie.
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In It For The Tank posted:There's been too many oblique reference in both the show and the books (and by the actress) that Melisandre has been kicking around for 100+ years for it not to turn out that she is actually decrepit old fire zombie. What?
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