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Zoness posted:Awaken is templated as an alternate cost on an instant or sorcery to make it modal and they didn't want to make a 0/6 wall modal? That makes sense. None of the cohort cards look that exciting, it's just so slow to do anything.
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The flavor text on Gift of Tusks owns btw. This looks like a set I might actually want to draft more than once. Not too many "this card is completely unbeatable" cards, lots of interesting commons and uncommons. And this is the first set in a long time where I think more of the art is good than isn't. I really like Witness the End. They really messed up not making the Toll Collector a troll though.
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suicidesteve posted:The flavor text on Gift of Tusks owns btw. Do you want to pay the troll toll
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Jan 8, 2016 17:37
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MiddleEastBeast posted:So, this is the Lightning Strike we deserve :\ I'm confused as to why this doesn't exile like every other devoid removal spell.
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Jan 8, 2016 17:38
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Nibble posted:I'm confused as to why this doesn't exile like every other devoid removal spell. The same reason why Stonehaven Medic is not an ally.
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pointsofdata posted:I can't think of a single good reason for this. It's way more confusing than just calling it Awaken as it's always going to be drafted with awaken cards... Awaken doesn't work on creatures
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Jan 8, 2016 17:41
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Anyway as far as I can tell despite all the references to things no one cares about, there's no magmaw worshiping so this set is officially Worse Than Homelands.
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Barry Shitpeas posted:Awaken doesn't work on creatures What if that creature is a land? 
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Compare the wording of cultivator drone to corrupted crossroads. I get that they are making different mana but still... Also since when does blue get what is basically a mana ramp creature?
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Anyway as far as I can tell despite all the references to things no one cares about, there's no magmaw worshiping so this set is officially Worse Than Homelands. Yeah but nobody liked Blackwing Descent anyway. But seriously no land burning and no magmaw and no mnemonic wall + splinter twin combo just gonna draft triple rise instead of this.
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I might just be reading cards wrong, but does red seem just sorta bad? There's a lot of overcosted effects and mediocre cards in there. Some good stuff, but kinda like green in BFZ. Just not a lot there.
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MiddleEastBeast posted:So, this is the Lightning Strike we deserve :\ Yes but think of all the pro-red creatures it kills in not draft not standard.
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pointsofdata posted:Compare the wording of cultivator drone to corrupted crossroads. I get that they are making different mana but still... Blue has had a few conditional mana dorks; Qarsi Deceiver, Renowned Weaponsmith, Deranged Assistant...
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Rip_Van_Winkle posted:I might just be reading cards wrong, but does red seem just sorta bad? There's a lot of overcosted effects and mediocre cards in there. Some good stuff, but kinda like green in BFZ. Just not a lot there. There's some OK stuff but nothing great at common I think. Blue on the other hand looks amazing.
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pointsofdata posted:
Blue, fairly infrequently, gets access to colorless production dudes, usually restricted in use to artifacts or to another generic-costed mechanic.   These both are from Khans block, one for its own artifact gimmick and the other for morph. There were appearances in Innistrad and Scars, too. It all goes back to Apprentice Wizard in The Dark. 
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Jan 8, 2016 17:56
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Only one white eldrazi. Bummer.
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pointsofdata posted:There's some OK stuff but nothing great at common I think. Blue on the other hand looks amazing. Yeah, unsurprisingly, blue looks incredible.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Only one white eldrazi. Bummer. Well, its a loving bomb. I don't know why that is a bummer.
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Sickening posted:Well, its a loving bomb. I don't know why that is a bummer. It's a little tease that will not be followed up, when the 4 other colors are puking eldrazi there's this one white guy asking for a bagel or something.
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There's a Trampling Vigilant Ally 5/4 for 4G at common. Seems good. Pretty sure green is still terrible, though, it seems unfocused as gently caress and still has jack for removal. No wait it does have a 5-mana uncommon sorcery conditional removal. Lets Pickle fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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This set looks good to draft because of how flat it seems. Just a lot of playable cards with few 'oops I win' rares. I think several people have already said this, but I agree and am saying it
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MiddleEastBeast posted:So, this is the Lightning Strike we deserve :\ i was liking the cards pretty well and then i saw this and just got depressed as hell
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Jan 8, 2016 18:08
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MiddleEastBeast posted:So, this is the Lightning Strike we deserve :\ Hey it's Burn! Get it, from Turn // Burn???? also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiXlmYzOCro
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Sickening posted:Well, its a loving bomb. I don't know why that is a bummer. Because there is only one?
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Also the Black 5 mana dude who has pay 1 life to get colorless mana seems really good, especially if you can get him out early and just vomit big dudes while you're opponent is still playing dorky guys
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mandatory lesbian posted:i was liking the cards pretty well and then i saw this and just got depressed as hell They had the opportunity to make a devoid lightening strike. Opportunities missed!
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It looks like Bone Saw has a lot riding on its crappy shoulders. It's the only common Equipment in a set with 3 uncommons and a rare that care about Equipment, and it's the only 0 cost spell in a set with Surge. Blue looks ridiculous, it gets loving Blinding Mage, multiple bounce spells, counters, card draw and a better Paralyzing Grasp. It does seem a little low on actual threats, so I guess pair it with colorless or a color that has threats? Black has the best removal in the set, holy poo poo. It also has some fairly aggressive Devoid creatures, but is split between Devoid and Allies. It looks like there is basically no payoff for gaining life this set, other than that one okay BW uncommon. Oh yeah I guess the Ally Underworld Connections seems good too. There seem to be a lot of fliers/reach creatures with 3-4 toughness and somewhat low power, I expect that having a lot of big fat threats on the ground will be a decent strategy. Lets Pickle fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
They sure did use to print some insane cards.
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Hey anyone checked Inquistion on tcgplayer lately? 
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Hey anyone checked Inquistion on tcgplayer lately? Haha I just traded 3 for like 13 each. Dumb. It should be an FNM promo though.
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mandatory lesbian posted:Also the Black 5 mana dude who has pay 1 life to get colorless mana seems really good, especially if you can get him out early and just vomit big dudes while you're opponent is still playing dorky guys You can only do it once each turn, lol. It's not Channel.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Hey anyone checked Inquistion on tcgplayer lately? Just a heads up, if you want to play with good lily you better buy now. I would rate the chances she is getting reprinted pretty low and once innistrad comes out she will spike again. Yes, 90 bucks might be the cheapest she will be without a reprint.  Fuzzy Mammal posted:Hey anyone checked Inquistion on tcgplayer lately? Not reprinting that was pretty dumb.
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Sickening posted:Just a heads up, if you want to play with good lily you better buy now. I would rate the chances she is getting reprinted pretty low and once innistrad comes out she will spike again. I would bet every magic card I own that she will be in MM17 but that's a while away.
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MiddleEastBeast posted:You can only do it once each turn, lol. It's not Channel. Ah really, missed that, my bad
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MiddleEastBeast posted:This set looks good to draft because of how flat it seems. Just a lot of playable cards with few 'oops I win' rares. I think several people have already said this, but I agree and am saying it I actually think it looks extremely bomby. Outside of removal spells the commons look extremely mediocre, and all of the gold uncommons are just insane value. Having few "oops, I win" rares just means less competition for the person opening Eldrazi Displacer or Deepfathom Skulker.
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 This is a cool early game removal spell. Green actually has big beefy dudes in this set. I think part of the reason green was bad in BFZ was cards like Unnatural Aggression just aren't good when your creatures are no bigger than your opponent's.  That's some beef right there.
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Also loving lol, they reprinted Boon of Erebos, already a surprisingly sweet trick in Limited, with Devoid and without the life loss.
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MiddleEastBeast posted:So, this is the Lightning Strike we deserve :\ Oh my god it doesnt even exile
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Jan 8, 2016 18:31
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Chances this sees eternal play over Nature's Claim?
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AlternateNu posted:Chances this sees eternal play over Nature's Claim? I am sure someone that plays natures claim can chime in, but don't you need to hit 4 cmc stuff occasionally?
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