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Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
Btw, Oberleutnant, you're causing me some serious financial grief.

I've already picked up a few books you've mentioned because they seem interesting and unfortunately my underfunded library doesn't have them :(

At least money spent on those from my JSA is money spent on bettering myself, as opposed to money spent on booze and skag, the traditional cocktail of the benefits claimants.

It makes me wonder if maybe someone, in the spirit of socialism, should set up some sort of UKMT book exchange program. I would volunteer myself, but I wouldn't know my arse from my elbow on where to begin.

Obviously any books sent to Pissflaps would have to have an appropriate number of spunking cocks for marginalia.

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Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:

lol https://twitter.com/eyespymp/status/685470941078511617


I await the next Dan Hodges anti Corbyn hit piece with glee.

"...according to sources close to the Labour leadership..."

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
I'm sure if I did Six Degrees of Separation I'm probably close to the Labour Leadership than most. I wonder if I can make proclamations based on spurious poo poo?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I bet you sit there eating chips and cheese out of a styrofoam container and behind you is a massive loving bookshelf. :wankah:

I think I'm going to buy that Liberalism book Ober recommended this weekend. I like the book exchange idea but again I'm not sure how it would best work. Maybe in the spirit of internet socialism we should put together some resources of good public domain works too. A fair chunk of interesting political texts should be in the public domain now and available on Project Gutenberg or marxists.org or whatever.

Amazon tried to charge me 69p once fir a digital download of a political pamphlet that was given away free in the 1870s.

Testro
May 2, 2009
On a library theme (I'm sure you've done this, but if not...):

- Check your entire library service, not just your local branch. You'll be able to use your card in other branches and can usually return the items to your local branch. Most libraries will bring a requested book in from another branch for you, sometimes charging a small fee. If the titles are older, chances are that they'll be in a bookstore that's not accessible to the public but you can order them for loan.

- Ask if they'll consider the item for stock. Libraries will have a book fund (albeit under strain) and will consider items for purchase. You'll have more joy from April onwards, as you may find the book fund is low now until the next financial year.

- See if your library offers an interlibrary loan service. If your library authority doesn't carry your item, they will ask a neighbouring authority for a loan. This usually costs between £2 and £4, depending on your authority. It may be cheaper to obtain the book secondhand, but if it's out of print and rare, it could be cheaper via loan.

- Find the class numbers for the items you're interested in and check your library authority's catalogue; you may find other titles on the same theme that are of interest that you hadn't heard of.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
Please, I'm not an animal. If I get cheese and chips it's got to include gravy, too.

^^^

I used to work at a library, and happily so. It was literally my ideal job, but cuts made me redundant and very few are hiring now :(

I practically live at the library. Not like that unfortunate goon in GBS, though, more's the pity.

Rush Limbo fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jan 8, 2016

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
That hit piece has totally reignited the storm around her. Dis she really think she's untouchable.

Testro
May 2, 2009

Ddraig posted:

I used to work at a library, and happily so. It was literally my ideal job, but cuts made me redundant and very few are hiring now :(

I practically live at the library. Not like that unfortunate goon in GBS, though, more's the pity.

Awful. :(

I remember when I was a kid, I wrote to John Major because I was concerned about library cuts. Labour swept to power, and cuts were unheard of.

...now libraries are virtually unrecognisable. Some counties have fared better than others, but the bad news just keeps on coming.

Unfortunately councils see libraries as a soft option. Most people don't realise they're entitled to a decent service; they're statutory.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
My local library, which was over 100 years old, was bulldozed and is purportedly supposed to be converted into flats but is just a barren field at the moment.

All the services have been made into a "Hub" (fancy Cardiff word for 'We have to put this poo poo somewhere, where makes the most sense?'') across the road.

It always makes me feel depressed when I walk past it to visit my Nan, as I remember going there as a little kid and it's just a loving field now.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
A lot of local libraries are pushing hard for volunteers, especially for things like IT services.

In an ideal society that would be a good thing and would make libraries better than they already were. Currently it just seems like a symptom of more Big Society bullshit that will be used to justify further cuts because volunteers will just pick up the slack.

e: ^^^ I remember when all this was libraries.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
If any Oxfordshire goons want to know details of Oxford Deanery's BMA Junior Doctors' Strike protests please PM me and I will let you know.

Sadly I can't make it myself without resigning, though given that I loving hate my job...

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
I work in the third sector, and game my working hours to claim JSA.

Of course it would be much more efficient if the government closed down the third sector and made it part of the official Civil Service rather than spending huge amounts of money to time to the second the amount of voluntary work I do to see if they can screw me out of benefits, but in lieu of that being official policy I'm forced to fight the system in this way.

I'm a rebel without a cause. Smash the state etc.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

The problem with the BBC's corporate culture is that the BBC has a corporate culture.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
By the by, Doughty has released a statement claiming the BBC didn't coerce him into resigning, AKA the apology for the thing that nobody's saying is a particular problem. He had every right to resign, and no-one's saying the BBC forced him to.

They're saying the BBC persuaded him to do it live on national television 5 minutes before PMQs. Which he has conspicuously not even mentioned.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless


The statue of Queen Victoria, by Joseph Boehm, was made in 1888. It has been moved in the city several times.

Here is what the street artist told the Bristol Post: "The art world is male dominated. Fact. Street art is male dominated. Fact. So I've got to represent. I've got to redress the balance.

"Queen Vic was a power woman. She was the original feminist and she was proud. All I did was show her how she wanted to be seen. What's so offensive about that?

"If Banksy's allowed to paint a naked man hanging out a window of a sex clinic, then why can't Queen Vic be seen in all her glory? Bristol loves shouting about street art but when it comes to something with a real message it can't handle it."

JFairfax fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jan 8, 2016

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?

Ddraig posted:

Please, I'm not an animal. If I get cheese and chips it's got to include gravy, too.

^^^

I used to work at a library, and happily so. It was literally my ideal job, but cuts made me redundant and very few are hiring now :(

I practically live at the library. Not like that unfortunate goon in GBS, though, more's the pity.

Well my partner just left her terrible job at a terrible Kent library and they're actually going to replace her (since she was doing most the work in the library anyway) so if you want a massively stressful library job then feel free to apply. Also you'll need to be able to do other roles like Registration and whatever other services that will be combined in the future. All for about 20K (if you're lucky, at management level).

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

serious gaylord posted:

That hit piece has totally reignited the storm around her. Dis she really think she's untouchable.

Which hit piece?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Tesseraction posted:

Which hit piece?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35258182

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
If there's one thing the last 24 hours have told me, it's that if the anti-Corbyn "anonymous sources" in the Labour party actually supported Jezza and went after the Tories, they could actually wreck the government

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
They'd have to find a paper that would run it though.

I guess the Mail if they restricted it to Dave's proclivities.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

If there's one thing the last 24 hours have told me, it's that if the anti-Corbyn "anonymous sources" in the Labour party actually supported Jezza and went after the Tories, they could actually wreck the government

Lol, the press only bother printing it because they want to gently caress Corbs.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Guavanaut posted:

They'd have to find a paper that would run it though.

I guess the Mail if they restricted it to Dave's proclivities.

this is a good point, but whoever these people are floating these stories are really loving good at their jobs but aiming at the wrong people....

thespaceinvader posted:

Lol, the press only bother printing it because they want to gently caress Corbs.

gently caress

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
The people that are doing this consider their job to be, currently, screwing with the democratically elected leader of their own party because they think (probably quite correctly) that he threatens their future in said jobs.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
Well, yes. He does.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

thespaceinvader posted:

The people that are doing this consider their job to be, currently, screwing with the democratically elected leader of their own party because they think (probably quite correctly) that he threatens their future in said jobs.

and yet undermining him to the point where Labour approaches some sort of Lib Dem 2015 election slaughter is going to threaten their jobs too? Unless they're trying to force another leadership election before the next general election which would make Labour look even more unsuitable for government... wait, what the gently caress?

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

thespaceinvader posted:

Seriously. Someone should loving hang for this,
i think you're overreacting don't you?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

and yet undermining him to the point where Labour approaches some sort of Lib Dem 2015 election slaughter is going to threaten their jobs too? Unless they're trying to force another leadership election before the next general election which would make Labour look even more unsuitable for government... wait, what the gently caress?

They are not rational about it can are not particularly thinking long-term, AFAICT.

The sum total of their long term thought seems to be 'if we can get rid of Corbyn and find someone ELECTABLE then we can win'.

They are loving idiots and the country desperately needs them to pull their loving heads out of their arses and start acting like adults.

Cerv posted:

i think you're overreacting don't you?

Minor case of hyperbole, I'll admit. How would 'be fired' sound?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Cerv posted:

i think you're overreacting don't you?
Regardless of my personal views on capital punishment, there's plenty of people in the UK that think child molesters and people that cover for them should be hanged.

All I'm saying is if you pick a BBC exec at random...

(Don't actually bring back hanging it's pretty bad. Even for poppy bummers.)

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Jan 9, 2016

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

thespaceinvader posted:

They are not rational about it can are not particularly thinking long-term, AFAICT.

The sum total of their long term thought seems to be 'if we can get rid of Corbyn and find someone ELECTABLE then we can win'.

They are loving idiots and the country desperately needs them to pull their loving heads out of their arses and start acting like adults.


precisely. The Tories have offered up two gilted edged golden opportunities this week alone in Cameron's wage inequality gaffe and Mindless Drug Hoover's backhanded admission that his plan of austerity still isn't working and all we're talking about is a goddamn reshuffle and the Beeb

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
loving lol

https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/685602288577167360

No no it was perfectly balanced and totally logical and the blog was only deleted because it was tonally inappropriate for the public, not because it made it patently obvious that our political editor who subsequently published a massive hate-piece about the leader of the labour party basically engineered a damaging live resignation minutes before the PM crowed about it to the leader of the labour party as a deflection to an important question about flooding.

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Cerv posted:

i think you're overreacting don't you?

Clearly you haven't heard of my punishment if you think his is overreacting. :colbert:

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

and yet undermining him to the point where Labour approaches some sort of Lib Dem 2015 election slaughter is going to threaten their jobs too? Unless they're trying to force another leadership election before the next general election which would make Labour look even more unsuitable for government... wait, what the gently caress?
This is the thing that gets me, realistically if they manage to force Corbyn out they are just going to kick the civil war up a notch, there is no way their behaviour to date has been winning the majority of his supporters over. They are entirely reliant on the assumption that people will be worn out and think maybe it's best if we just pick some random Blairbot because (theoretically, them being a bunch of treacherous ratfuck bastards, after all) they will at least not be actively undermining the leader in public then.

They aren't even loving the party in a way that will end up helping them, they're just loving it because it isn't theirs anymore.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

XMNN posted:

This is the thing that gets me, realistically if they manage to force Corbyn out they are just going to kick the civil war up a notch, there is no way their behaviour to date has been winning the majority of his supporters over. They are entirely reliant on the assumption that people will be worn out and think maybe it's best if we just pick some random Blairbot because (theoretically, them being a bunch of treacherous ratfuck bastards, after all) they will at least not be actively undermining the leader in public then.

They aren't even loving the party in a way that will end up helping them, they're just loving it because it isn't their's anymore.

It does make me wonder if it wouldn't have been better for Milliband to hang on for a year or two and trigger the leadership election closer to the General. If Corbyn had been elected with a year to go rather than four they might have been more inclined not to gently caress with him.

Or been more scared of deselection.

The real difficulty is that right now a lot of them have free reign to have tantrums because their jobs are not remotely at risk for four loving years.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

thespaceinvader posted:

loving lol

https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/685602288577167360

No no it was perfectly balanced and totally logical and the blog was only deleted because it was tonally inappropriate for the public, not because it made it patently obvious that our political editor who subsequently published a massive hate-piece about the leader of the labour party basically engineered a damaging live resignation minutes before the PM crowed about it to the leader of the labour party as a deflection to an important question about flooding.

Thats a very loud sweeping sound and a very large rug.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

serious gaylord posted:

Thats a very loud sweeping sound and a very large rug.

Try this one on for size: https://twitter.com/BBCr4today/status/685103496954286080

Fans
Jun 27, 2013

A reptile dysfunction
While we may admit what we're doing internally to each other, we never would have admitted it to the public and that's why I feel you should just ignore it. - An actual argument being made here.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Fans posted:

While we may admit what we're doing internally to each other, we never would have admitted it to the public and that's why I feel you should just ignore it. - An actual argument being made here.

Please ignore the glee with which this person celebrates this incident, that tone was for BBC employees only and not for the viewing of the general public at large.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Ddraig posted:

Btw, Oberleutnant, you're causing me some serious financial grief.

I've already picked up a few books you've mentioned because they seem interesting and unfortunately my underfunded library doesn't have them :(

At least money spent on those from my JSA is money spent on bettering myself, as opposed to money spent on booze and skag, the traditional cocktail of the benefits claimants.

It makes me wonder if maybe someone, in the spirit of socialism, should set up some sort of UKMT book exchange program. I would volunteer myself, but I wouldn't know my arse from my elbow on where to begin.

Obviously any books sent to Pissflaps would have to have an appropriate number of spunking cocks for marginalia.

What'd ya get?

There was a 90% off sale on ebooks at Verso over new year and I would've told you all but I was probied for some stupid reason :3:

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
Has Corbyn pulled the sword from the stone and restored proper order yet or did Scotland give up on y'all seeing sense and gently caress off outta there before it gets any worse?

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Corbyn is running on an explicitly anti-sword policy for the government. The next best chance for Scotland to give up is for the UK to narrowly vote against EU membership with Scotland voting some percent in favor of remaining.

None of these scenarios look like the most probable ones though. :geno:

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