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Sono posted:The people who believe the world would devolve into an orgy of cannibal horsefuckers without a belief in God are the people who would be cannibal horsefuckers if they weren't afraid of divine punishment. Too be fair, the Republican party is in two camps over this issue; the camp that hates the IRS, hates the estate tax, would be perfectly OK with cannibal horsefuckery if it meant they got a tax benefit out of it. In addition to the other benefits, of course.
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Do It Once Right posted:I'm going to laugh my rear end off when the furor over whether Ted Cruz is a natural born American citizen dies down, and is immediately replaced by the realization that Cruz is a natural born Canadian citizen. I like the cruel twist of fate in which is was forced to post his birth certificate online. I hope Obama was laughing his rear end off after hearing what happened to Cruz.
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Jan 9, 2016 17:17
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Phlegmish posted:You had your chance, old man. You had a good run last time for someone who wants to make Mad Max a reality. Now give your dumbass son some support. The south is an evangelical block until someone comes along who will let them Lynch people and smile of camera with it going on in the background again
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Yeah Trump is the master of implying things when he does a troll war.
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Jan 9, 2016 17:19
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xbilkis posted:Is there a point of reference for how frontrunners that ended up deflating after Iowa/NH/SC polled in Super Tuesday states? Did people like Giuliani have such a big lead in secondary primary states at this point in the race, or is there a chance for a second Trump surge even if he underperforms early? Nationally, Huckabee started tying Guliani in eary December. By mid December Romney and McCain had tied Guliani, and by Christmas Guliani was in fourth. Guliani had lost his polling lead in Iowa in March 07, NH by July, SC in November, Nevada by December, In the Super Tuesday states, Guliani lost CA/FL/IL/MO in mid December, CT in November, CO/MA in July 07,. He really never had a chance going into the first primaries. Compared to Trump who is ahead in nh, nv, and Sc with 3.5 weeks to go
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Cephalocidal posted:The only cartoon character I can think of that actually got more entertaining to watch when I discovered his VO had abhorrent personal views. Am I missing something here? Levin is not master shake.
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There's probably a couple of other random states that are going to pick Cruz, even though it won't matter.
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SirKibbles posted:Link? Trump is a treasure http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-advises-cruz-to-clarify-his-natural-born-citizenship-in-court/ Trump posted:"I don't know and I like him a lot. And I don't like the issue. I don't like even bringing it up," Trump told Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room."
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Phlegmish posted:Why is that, is his son not ideologically pure enough? Kind of a dick move on his part. There's that for sure, plus I think Ron is just a lovely father (which wouldn't be surprising since I know he's a lovely person) and jealous of his son's rise to prominence.
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Nonsense posted:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-advises-cruz-to-clarify-his-natural-born-citizenship-in-court/ The concern Troll heard 'round the World. babypolis posted:ah yes trumps very sane foreign policy proposals, which include making mexico pay for a wall, 45% tariff on china, bombing people to get their oil, and a whole bunch of other nonsense You know where you are? You're in the GOP primary thread baby, and compared Rubio, Jeb, Fiorina, and Christie, Trump's insane bullshit is saner than starting World War 3 over Syria, or some man made islands in the Pacific. Everything in context.
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Bryter posted:Also, like half the stage came out in favour of the gold standard at one of the Republican debates, so it's not even as if having Rand on stage to push for that insanity is particularly worthwhile to Ron. I completely forgot this in the "weirdness" (thanks, Sam Wang!). Was anything ever made of it? Did the media or other candidates point out the economic stupidity of some of the ideas they proposed, like commodity currency or a basket of currencies?
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Epic High Five posted:Am I reading this wrong? It seems like Hillary is in a much, much stronger position to take a her party's nom as Trump is his, but the article seems to think it's the same Same, but with W in 2000 where he had 45% to Trumps 20.
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Epic High Five posted:Am I reading this wrong? It seems like Hillary is in a much, much stronger position to take a her party's nom as Trump is his, but the article seems to think it's the same As he says, it's based purely on polling. Bernie is beating Hillary in some NH polls, but he has no chance of winning the nomination.
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Boosted_C5 posted:Hahahaha. IF Trump pivots to the center? LOL. Abandon all hope I’m going to make America pretty good again.
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Zyla posted:Am I missing something here? Levin is not master shake. I'm hoping I'm the first to introduce you to these works of art: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYz0RaZSMsA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJuP6r8Mols https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzKPO1nPOjk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1oilMKAwoE
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Joementum posted:As he says, it's based purely on polling. Bernie is beating Hillary in some NH polls, but he has no chance of winning the nomination. The calendar is remarkably unfriendly to Bernie, even if he wins NH he has no way to capitalize on it (fitting for a socialist, I suppose). He'll get ground into the dust in SC and likely Nevada, and on Super Tuesday Bernie winning Vermont will be contrasted to him losing nearly a dozen Southern states at once. One of the reasons I'm relatively bullish on Trump is that the calendar is actually remarkably friendly to him after IA/NH. If he can win NH (a big if) he and Cruz can basically shut out all their other rivals given that Dixie isn't very friendly to the Establishment types.
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I don't know where you get Cruz taking a hit. The latest stuff coming out had him still moving up a few percentage points.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:There's that for sure, plus I think Ron is just a lovely father (which wouldn't be surprising since I know he's a lovely person) and jealous of his son's rise to prominence. Does anyone have that fanfic where child Rand says "I love you" to Dad as he goes to sleep and his Dad lectures him on the folly of affection?
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Mr Hootington posted:I don't know where you get Cruz taking a hit. The latest stuff coming out had him still moving up a few percentage points. In Iowa only though. Everyone assumed Cruz couldn't win the more fiscally conservative states like NH, so in order to win this thing Cruz has to build support across the midwest and the south (where social conservatives exist in force). quote:Georgia - Landmark/Rosetta Stone Poll If Cruz's numbers are that bad across the south in general he has no hope of winning the nomination. He's looking like another Iowa flash in the pan like the GOP had in '08 with Huckabee and '12 with Santorum.
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Epic High Five posted:Am I reading this wrong? It seems like Hillary is in a much, much stronger position to take a her party's nom as Trump is his, but the article seems to think it's the same I think he's missing a point with Trump and Clinton both having 20% leads. Clinton is at 50% - 30%, and even if every single undecided, O'Malley supporter, etc. starts feeling the bern, she's still tied at the worst. The Dem nomination is hers to lose. Trump's lead is 35-15. Once the Rep field starts collapsing, he could end up being passed up. Clinton can play safe; she just needs to hold the people she has. Trump needs to pick up another 15% or find a way to keep the RNC from loving him if he ends up with a plurality, but not a majority, of delegates.
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Boosted_C5 posted:http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-01-08/new-poll-shows-donald-trump-is-a-real-threat-to-hillary-clinton There's something to this... Hillaryis44 is now endorsing Donald Trump: http://www.hillaryis44.org/2016/01/08/self-inflicted-the-end-of-hillary2016-the-rise-of-trump2016/ hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Subvisual Haze posted:In Iowa only though. Everyone assumed Cruz couldn't win the more fiscally conservative states like NH, so in order to win this thing Cruz has to build support across the midwest and the south (where social conservatives exist in force). Is there some kind of analyst saying Cruz was going to win NH? I always remember being discussed that winners in NH were establishment types. Cruz was always going to do well with Evangelicals and social conservatives. That is some of his bread and butter. Regardless of Trump beating him in the south, my point still stands that he has not taken a noticeable hit in numbers because of the birth certificate. Having to stop and talk about it may hurt him, but it just seems to have hurt the RWM more. The part I find hilarious in all of this is that Cruz would be Trump if not for Trump.
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Patter Song posted:One of the reasons I'm relatively bullish on Trump is that the calendar is actually remarkably friendly to him after IA/NH. If he can win NH (a big if) he and Cruz can basically shut out all their other rivals given that Dixie isn't very friendly to the Establishment types. How is Trump winning NH a big IF? He is leading by every possible metric there.
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Montasque posted:There's something to this... Hahaha, Oh my god it's like I fell into a timewarp to the 2008 thread. RON PAUL 08
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Montasque posted:There's something to this... Holy christ that is the stupidest poo poo I have ever read. 
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Isn't it wonderful waking up everyday and once again realizing we live in the best possible timeline???
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Montasque posted:There's something to this... Absolutely incredible
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Subvisual Haze posted:In Iowa only though. Everyone assumed Cruz couldn't win the more fiscally conservative states like NH, so in order to win this thing Cruz has to build support across the midwest and the south (where social conservatives exist in force). Pretty much. The same idiots going on about how Trump losing Iowa would end it for him were the ones who thought he would never poll higher than 5, wait no 10, errr maybe 15, well how about 20 ... Iowa rarely picks the republican winner, but chooses the democrat fairly often. Trump is going to have a strong 2nd in IA and then go on to take the other early states and wrap it up on ST. Boosted_C5 posted:http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-01-08/new-poll-shows-donald-trump-is-a-real-threat-to-hillary-clinton All it's going to take is a couple more terrorist crazies and the moderates are going to flee to the right like they have in nearly every other western country.
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Thump! posted:Holy christ that is the stupidest poo poo I have ever read. It makes a good point that HRC is hilariously bad at campaigning, which is why she is very vulnerable in general. She has a very difficult time winning elections that aren't completely handed to her.
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Boosted_C5 posted:Isn't it wonderful waking up everyday and once again realizing we live in the best possible timeline??? It really is. My beltway DC reporter friend was insisting Rubio was a lock and all I could do was shake my head at the poor deluded man.
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:It makes a good point that HRC is hilariously bad at campaigning, which is why she is very vulnerable in general. She has a very difficult time winning elections that aren't completely handed to her.  Still, the absolute pantsshitting terror of these supposed 'diehard' supporters of hers is just incredible.
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rakovsky maybe posted:It really is. My beltway DC reporter friend was insisting Rubio was a lock and all I could do was shake my head at the poor deluded man. Rubio is still probably the favorite for this, but he keeps acting like he doesn't actually want to be the nominee.
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