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Wild Horses posted:Diego is still 100% ok with letting wekapipo die though. He didn't feel that one in the slightest I thought he did feel slightly guilty, but not enough not to do it? In that sense, his glimmer of decency is what's holding him back, he's like 90% a bad guy but he can't go that extra mile and go gently caress Everyone All The Time and as a result he never becomes a fully-realised arc villain like DIO
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A Steampunk Gent posted:The Steel Ball Run is this social-darwinist trial by fire I enjoyed this post, thank you
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Jan 9, 2016 23:27
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Didn't Diego marry an older woman just so she could die and he could get her money
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The best part about AU Diego is getting brutally owned by a fourteen year old girl who doesn't even have a stand.Baal posted:Didn't Diego marry an older woman just so she could die and he could get her money Wouldn't you?
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i'd marry diego
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Baal posted:Didn't Diego marry an older woman just so she could die and he could get her money She was like 84 or something and the murder was stated as a rumour, I thought the whole point of gold digging was to let nature do the murder for you?
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I could never marry a man who has dinosaur powers and doesn't turn into a t rex
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Baal posted:I could never marry a man who has dinosaur powers and doesn't turn into a t rex Diego didn't have the conviction of purpose to turn into a T-Rex
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A Steampunk Gent posted:She was like 84 or something and the murder was stated as a rumour, I thought the whole point of gold digging was to let nature do the murder for you? It's still an incredibly lovely thing that brings your morals and humanity into question. I do remember them saying it was a rumor so it obviously has no real stake in his character, but it's still something that's meant to portray Diego as a person with hosed up morality when you first meet him.
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Johnny Joestar was a dangerous terrorist who needed to be stopped at all costs. It was Valentine's purity that ruined the bluff that could have saved America.
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Johnny Joestar posted:i'd marry diego 
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A Steampunk Gent posted:Diego didn't have the conviction of purpose to turn into a T-Rex The other post was a pretty great analysis of the themes of SBR and how the characters carry it and I'm glad of reading it, but this has to be the thread title.
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Baal posted:It's still an incredibly lovely thing that brings your morals and humanity into question. I do remember them saying it was a rumor so it obviously has no real stake in his character, but it's still something that's meant to portray Diego as a person with hosed up morality when you first meet him. Yeah I'd agree, and as I said he's still a pretty bad guy. It shows he lacked that killer instinct though, if the rumour had been about a 40 year old heiress who'd died 'mysteriously' it'd carry an entirely different context to an old woman who could well have died of natural causes
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Diego is an everyday bad guy while DIO is a literal cartoon supervillain.
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:DIO is a literal cartoon supervillain. I still love that DIO's capital C Charisma is literally just brain-controlling parasites and an inexplicably huge cash flow. I guess there were the left-handed old lady, the guy who doesn't realise people don't usually get up from beheading and the priest who abandoned God literally the first chance he got to follow the devil, but everyone else couldn't give less of a poo poo about DIO. At least with Valentine I could see why everyone up to and including the protagonist himself believed in his absolute and unwavering loyalty to America. DIO's party line of "keep humans as live stock" is a bit of a harder sell for me, really.
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a cartoon duck posted:I still love that DIO's capital C Charisma is literally just brain-controlling parasites and an inexplicably huge cash flow. I guess there were the left-handed old lady, the guy who doesn't realise people don't usually get up from beheading and the priest who abandoned God literally the first chance he got to follow the devil, but everyone else couldn't give less of a poo poo about DIO. otoh I would like to hang out in bed with DIO
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:otoh I would like to hang out in bed with DIO I haven't considered this and you make a strong case.
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Jan 10, 2016 00:21
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If Dio hogs the covers he can go gently caress off to the couch
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Okuyasu Nijimura posted:
Huh, I didn't even remember that.
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Baal posted:If Dio hogs the covers he can go gently caress off to the couch Do you really believe DIO would do something that would cover his beautiful stolen body? He'd probably tuck you into bed and then lay seductively on top of the sheets.
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a cartoon duck posted:I still love that DIO's capital C Charisma is literally just brain-controlling parasites and an inexplicably huge cash flow. I guess there were the left-handed old lady, the guy who doesn't realise people don't usually get up from beheading and the priest who abandoned God literally the first chance he got to follow the devil, but everyone else couldn't give less of a poo poo about DIO. To be fair, N'Doul seemed to be genuinely loyal to DIO (because "even evil needs a savior").
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Diego is kind of a bad guy, but to be fair Johnny Joestar is also kind of a shithead so it balances out.
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I want an opinion from the thread and this is not 100% a guaranteed thing that is going to happen, but if I were to maybe possibly LP JoJo games should I theoretically start in chronological order of game release or game based on series. The former has the benefit of allowing me to show off the changes in both game tech with JoJo games and the trading of the IP to different publishers and how that effects and the other pushes the story in order but forces me to play an insanely lovely game to start and I wouldn't want to maybe set the mood of a theoretical JoJo LP with the worst game first.
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Maybe possibly
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Are there even games for every part? I imagine doing it in series order is still going to be pretty disjointed not doing the story any favours so you might as well go with game release order.
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I haven't played most of them so how much garbage would you theoretically put yourself through? It would be a shame to look at any part of Jojo with reflexive disgust
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There aren't games for every part but leaving ASB and possibly EoH for the last games gives me room to talk about those parts at length and an LP would also be for trying to draw general interest to the series. Mind you, the LP sub forum is a weird place to pull from, but it wouldn't be the first time I've tried to get attention for this series in unorthodox places.
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Adlai Stevenson posted:I haven't played most of them so how much garbage would you theoretically put yourself through? It would be a shame to look at any part of Jojo with reflexive disgust The Part 1 game is legitimately awful in about every conceivable way and not even in an interesting way. I legit wrote an essay in thread about how awful it is and how much worse it is than so many mediocre anime based games.
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The two Capcom games should probably be LPd first. With Heritage for the Future first, since Golden Wind borrows elements from it while being completely different. I'm not sure if the Phantom Blood game is worth playing at all. Maybe just have that as a singular update in another LP. I completely forgot about the SNES game. I'm not sure if that one is particularly interesting either. It's got good music, and Jotaro beats DIO by equipping the time cap, but eh. This could go either way, I suppose.
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you could do it by release order, but rather than an in-depth lp of the first game, maybe do something highly edited/condensed? or skip it
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Butt Ghost posted:The ova guy does good art Which is weird because the 2nd ova and movie were both really really ugly, maybe his art just looks lovely in motion or something idk what happened. The first ova looked solid for the time but it wasnt really stylish like jojo is but the art wasn't bad or ugly like the other ones.
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My plan for stuff like the SNES game was to do a two game LP side by side with the Capcom game originally, but I realized that would not only take like an insane amount of work to do effectively, I'm already going to be going in depth on character play styles and stuff in the Capcom fighter and don't need to add a whole JRPG to my workload. That being said I do want to put it in there, so I might just do a single video on it or come back to it later in the LP if I feel comfortable with doing so. I do really want to LP the Part 1 game because it's worth mentioning and bringing up for a lot of reasons and doing a full play through of it. Especially because it's not a particularly long game, just bad and tedious. My plan is mostly to do really edited videos to make for more well-paced viewing instead of showing every little bit of the game.
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It sounds like you want to put a lot of effort into doing a bunch of games even though you don't necessarily care about the bad ones imo when it comes to bad games, unlless you're just doing some kind of endurance through it, showcasing the best parts (ie funniest parts) is a good way to go. if the game is just straight up boring with nothing interesting to show at all then dont bother imo. You seemed to really enjoy the stardust crusaders capcom game and vento aureo game, I'd say focus on one or the other, especially if you ended up just doing the story mode stuff from the ps1 stardust crusaders game
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Baal posted:My plan for stuff like the SNES game was to do a two game LP side by side with the Capcom game originally, but I realized that would not only take like an insane amount of work to do effectively, I'm already going to be going in depth on character play styles and stuff in the Capcom fighter and don't need to add a whole JRPG to my workload. That being said I do want to put it in there, so I might just do a single video on it or come back to it later in the LP if I feel comfortable with doing so. I know Waffleman_ said he was going to do a double-LP of 7SU with the SNES game, so maybe hit them up to collab?
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A Steampunk Gent posted:I think AU Diego actually works really well into the story. The main theme that drives the protagonists and antagonists in SBR is 'determination' and how far you're willing to go for your beliefs. The Steel Ball Run is this social-darwinist trial by fire which purges the weak and leaves those driven by some burning compulsion, with the prize being the power of god. Gyro from the start has a flaw in his resolution as he's primarily driven by being a nice guy, having entered to save a little boy's life and all. He tries being an edgy anti-hero through the True Man's World, and it sticks for a while, but he ultimately reverts to his true nature as a more moderate and fundamentally decent person than the others around his. This lack of conviction in an incredibly high-stakes winner takes all situation is finally symbolised by the flaw in his ball preventing him from delivering the fatal blow to Valentine in their duel. Steel Ball Run is probably Araki's best writing on a large scale and great characterization. Johnny and Gyro are super good characters with Johnny probably being one of the most nuanced JoJo's. It's just all so good and I hope JoJolion is even half as good. Right now I have no idea what I think about JoJolion cause What The gently caress.
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PeaceDiner posted:I know Waffleman_ said he was going to do a double-LP of 7SU with the SNES game, so maybe hit them up to collab? I actually completely forgot Waffleman was planning to do that Waffleman if you are reading this talk to me, baby
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I really want to beat the second Polnareff fight in 7th Stand User but I think I have just not leveled Jotaro up enough 
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setafd posted:I really want to beat the second Polnareff fight in 7th Stand User but I think I have just not leveled Jotaro up enough Regular Polnareff or Anubis?
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