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using his helmet and his power ryan shazier mashed gio bernards spine like i mash a marshmallow with my fingers before i eat it. im 3 feet tall and i weigh 500 pounds and yeah, im intj
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The ref should be disciplined hard for not flagging Shazier though. I don't know what kind of punishment they can dole out to refs, but he should get alot of it. That was a blatant and disgusting hit. The rest is just meh at this point. The bengals are mostly responsible for their own demise
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Frackie Robinson posted:Alternatively, unfair and imbalanced calls are the only way to control a game. If you call offsetting penalites whenever two guys start beating the poo poo out of each other it doesn't serve as much of a disincentive. What do you mean? I kinda grasp your point, but need further illumination, please
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To be honest that shows that the NFL has No real way to handle these types of problems if they come up.
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CharlestheHammer posted:To be honest that shows that the NFL has No real way to handle these types of problems if they come up. I mean you could eject guys but then you will fall into the same thing "The refs were biased and screwed us by throwing out so and so for just shoving a guy when shoves happen all the time etc etc"
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Jan 10, 2016 07:06
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Mel Mudkiper posted:what could they have possibly done that they hadn't done? Flag Shazier
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CharlestheHammer posted:To be honest that shows that the NFL has No real way to handle these types of problems if they come up. unfortunately it was the most entertaining NFL game i've watched in years. headhunting and the conflict it inspires (on the field and off it) is unbelievably entertaining and the NFL is probably not overly concerned.
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CharlestheHammer posted:To be honest that shows that the NFL has No real way to handle these types of problems if they come up. don't put burfict and pacman on the same team mayhap
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CharlestheHammer posted:To be honest that shows that the NFL has No real way to handle these types of problems if they come up. They should be able to review penalties, just like college does for targeting. Like, they had to look at that play to see if it was a fumble. They obviously saw it was an illegal hit at that point, but they can't do anything because they didn't call it. Use replay for these things, and also eject players for them.
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Are people seriously arguing that the refs are responsible for knowing which assistant coach should be on the field for certain players getting injured because goddamn.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I mean you could eject guys but then you will fall into the same thing "The refs were biased and screwed us by throwing out so and so for just shoving a guy when shoves happen all the time etc etc" actually never mind the FG try, without that additional penalty there's a chance pittsburgh runs another play first before the FG try, and all sorts of crazy outcomes could spring from that
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Jan 10, 2016 07:08
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Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:i don't think i want to watch football anymore ham. lmao remember all those posts you made about the bengals and the afc title like 5+ weeks ago hahahahaha
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I mean you could eject guys but then you will fall into the same thing "The refs were biased and screwed us by throwing out so and so for just shoving a guy when shoves happen all the time etc etc" The NFL is terrified of ejecting players which is a problem. Burlict should have been ejected a long time ago. I mean the announcers were saying he was running around uncontrollably on the sideline. Trying to start fights.
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YodaTFK posted:Are people seriously arguing that the refs are responsible for knowing which assistant coach should be on the field for certain players getting injured because goddamn. If they're on the field checking on the player that's fine. If they're out there cussing out and getting in the faces of the other team, that's a problem.
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Jan 10, 2016 07:09
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Quest For Glory II posted:Offsetting penalties between Jones and Porter would have left neither team or fanbase happy but it would have defused the situation and gotten the focus back on the game, Yes, it is a good idea for a ref to rank mean words and physical contact as equivalent penalties
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I wonder what the ratings for this game are gonna be. It was loving thrilling and every single person on my timeline was talking about it, even idiots trying to do irony by saying "sportsball" were tuning in
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Yeah, charles is right, I mean look at the OBJ vs Josh Norman situation. Yeah OBJ was penalized after the game, but that's another example of what I'm talking about. It was happening again and again that the refs should have known the situation. They knew it was going to keep happening and it did keep happening. The only proper thing to do in that game was eject one or both of the players, and instead they just kept letting it happen and flagging it. It was loving brutal to watchMel Mudkiper posted:Yes, it is a good idea for a ref to rank mean words and physical contact as equivalent penalties
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straight up brolic posted:unfortunately it was the most entertaining NFL game i've watched in years. headhunting and the conflict it inspires (on the field and off it) is unbelievably entertaining and the NFL is probably not overly concerned. It was honestly embarrassing and this isn't the NFL that I want to watch.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Yes, it is a good idea for a ref to rank mean words and physical contact as equivalent penalties I'm not touching you; can't get mad.
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tk posted:It was honestly embarrassing and this isn't the NFL that I want to watch. I don't thing the Bengals will ever get me to stop watching football but seeing poo poo like rag doll AB might
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Yes, it is a good idea for a ref to rank mean words and physical contact as equivalent penalties A penalty for taunting is the same as a penalty for unnecessary roughness/facemask/etc. So to the NFL, they are equivalent penalties.
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tk posted:It was honestly embarrassing and this isn't the NFL that I want to watch.
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tk posted:It was honestly embarrassing and this isn't the NFL that I want to watch. can you explain why it was embarrassing thanks
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I wonder which was more this year: crippling injuries endured from the PIT/CIN games or TDs scored. I think Jeremy Hill cutaways would be a higher number than both combined.
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Codependent Poster posted:A penalty for taunting is the same as a penalty for unnecessary roughness/facemask/etc. Come on you know you are deliberately stretching things here now taunting is a very specific penalty and isn't "mean words"
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if jones didn't respond to porter, another player would have. it was an intentional laying of bait for someone to take, in a SEA of bengals players. in that situation, i feel that offsetting unsportsmanlikes was the best way of defusing it
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YodaTFK posted:Are people seriously arguing that the refs are responsible for knowing which assistant coach should be on the field for certain players getting injured because goddamn. Clearly Porter was on the field attending to Brown https://streamable.com/v94e
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Quest For Glory II posted:if jones didn't respond to porter, another player would have. it was an intentional laying of bait for someone to take. in that situation, i feel that offsetting unsportsmanlikes was the best way of defusing it Yep, this is what I believe too.
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Instead of OL reporting eligible the hot new trend in the NFL will to designate some assistant to go out and talk poo poo to the other team every injury. Maybe the Bengals can get Chad back.
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Quest For Glory II posted:if jones didn't respond to porter, another player would have. it was an intentional laying of bait for someone to take, in a SEA of bengals players. in that situation, i feel that offsetting unsportsmanlikes was the best way of defusing it It would have been, penalizing one but not the other is pouring gas on an open flame.
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Drunk Nerds posted:What do you mean? I kinda grasp your point, but need further illumination, please I'm saying that there's a stronger disincentive against escalating conflict or retaliating when each team has to worry about the possibility that they're going to be "unfairly" get the brunt of the punishment. If things are going to get called in a way such that they predictably balance out, then what reason do they have not to just act like maniacs?
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Quest For Glory II posted:if jones didn't respond to porter, another player would have. it was an intentional laying of bait for someone to take, in a SEA of bengals players. in that situation, i feel that offsetting unsportsmanlikes was the best way of defusing it It's more than that; it's the obvious response! NFL refs are spineless and issue offsetting unsportmenlikes all the time. That's literally the NFL's default position in scrums.
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:lmao remember all those posts you made about the bengals and the afc title like 5+ weeks ago make a post a tenth as good as marsh pussy or go the gently caress home
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Frackie Robinson posted:I'm saying that there's a stronger disincentive against escalating conflict or retaliating when each team has to worry about the possibility that they're going to be "unfairly" get the brunt of the punishment. If things are going to get called in a way such that they predictably balance out, then what reason do they have not to just act like maniacs? Weird I feel the exact opposite would happen.
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Quest For Glory II posted:if jones didn't respond to porter, another player would have. it was an intentional laying of bait for someone to take, in a SEA of bengals players. in that situation, i feel that offsetting unsportsmanlikes was the best way of defusing it Man what the gently caress I don't care how competitive you are, it's not that loving hard to not put your hands on someone. "Bait," really? Plenty of NFL players seem to find it perfectly easy to not be a giant shitlord and avoid these sorts of things. If you're the aggressive type, it's not the job of the refs/coaches/the league to work around you, it is your job to find a way to not be an rear end in a top hat.
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but tbh i agree that the fact that what pacman did and what burfict did are tantamount in the eyes of the NFL illuminates the fact that they don't take player safety seriously at all. if you want to eliminate hits like that, make a defenseless/leading with the crown of the helmet hit a full field penalty...i bet people wouldn't do it if it was.
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Quest For Glory II posted:if jones didn't respond to porter, another player would have. it was an intentional laying of bait for someone to take, in a SEA of bengals players. in that situation, i feel that offsetting unsportsmanlikes was the best way of defusing it You keep characterizing it like Porter went to Cincy's sideline and started jawing. He was escorting Brown off of the field and pushed Burfict's arm when he put his hand on Brown's shoulder. #95 ran up and bumped Porter, separating him from the Brown group, and several other Bengals came to surround him. Dickheads all around, but nothing flagrant or worth a flag. Then Pacman came flying at him and tried to flail through three refs to get him.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Come on you know you are deliberately stretching things here now Yes or no, it's okay for an assistant coach to go on the field and confront the other team and start cursing them out?
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PsychoInternetHawk posted:Man what the gently caress I don't care how competitive you are, it's not that loving hard to not put your hands on someone. You have to remember that they are literally under the most pressure in that moment than they will ever feel in their entire lives. Furthermore, they are paid to hurt people.
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