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AnonSpore posted:Half the chapters in dressrosa did not bring new and exciting developments Maybe for you. The only places where it actually dragged was Zoro vs Pica and stalling out the finisher with Gear 4, which doesn't contribute anywhere near half of the arcs running time. The arc was fully of exciting or interesting moments constantly, with the two exceptions above being the outliers. It was a long arc, but to call half of it pointless or boring (which is what you're basically saying) is just completely disingenuous.
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There was probably a little bit of legitimate padding going on to make the big impact happen at issue 800, but it's fairly minor compared to the highs it delivered.
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Mraagvpeine posted:What about Rebecca's sub-plot? It was boring because Rebecca is terrible and from beginning to end I had no reason whatsoever to care about her, but at least Kyros was cool. That said I did not like Dressrosa anyways. It introduced a million characters and focused on each of them, slowing the arc to a crawl, while removing half of the actual main character cast. It also stalled pretty badly during the Doflamingo fight, and turned a villain that once was actually interesting and menacing into a whiny, unlikable brat. It had its highs: Franky vs Seņor Pink was awesome, God Usopp is the best, Gear Fourth is neat even if it is misused for more stalling, and I really hope we get to see more of Bartolomeo because he's fun, but the arc felt like Bleach otherwise (better-written, of course), a major focus on a bunch of people that appeared out of nowhere and I have no reason whatsoever to care about, while the "main characters" are ignored entirely. It pays off, but it makes the arc really drat boring. Admittedly I didn't try to read it all at once instead of weekly, that apparently helps. Maybe I will at some point, for the time being I'm enjoying Zou far more.
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I liked Gear Fourth, especially since Luffy needed that jump to contend with the titans of the series, I just hope he stumbles over some newfound mastery of it very soon and preferably offscreen. I don't need this "hero needs time to power up" poo poo to ever happen again. It being a staple of shonen doesn't mean it's any less annoying, and One Piece has previously done this a lot more creatively. Yes, we will always have to Wait For Goku, but I'd much rather have our hero stuck in between buildings in Water 7 or having his time wasted by an intelligent enemy rather than have him completely stomp Dofy, then lose his powers and gain them back at juuuuust the right moments. It's just not dramatic to me, I hear a voice in my head screaming, "Oda could have him come back at any time, this is all artificial drama".
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I ended up starting over. Three observations after 40 chapters: - Fan translations are fuckin' painful. "TN: Baka means idiot" indeed. And stop saying ojousama, ffs. - Man, Oda does some good crying faces. I actually, genuinely, felt feelings when Usopp dissolved his pirate band. - The cool moments fall a bit flat, at least this early on. Likewise, the grand villainous reveals are kind of dumb. Probably related to the abominable translations, though.
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I liked the arc but I think you could easily condense it to about 1/2 to 2/3 the length and not lose anything meaningful. There was a lot of bloat.
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I think part of the difficulty in straight up dismissing stuff that occurred during the arc as not being meaningful is that Oda is Oda; the armada is the obvious one, but there's a ton of other stuff he might have showed here to use at a later date. Reading it weekly was still draggy though.
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Advice posted:I liked Gear Fourth, especially since Luffy needed that jump to contend with the titans of the series, I just hope he stumbles over some newfound mastery of it very soon and preferably offscreen. I don't need this "hero needs time to power up" poo poo to ever happen again. It being a staple of shonen doesn't mean it's any less annoying, and One Piece has previously done this a lot more creatively. Yes, we will always have to Wait For Goku, but I'd much rather have our hero stuck in between buildings in Water 7 or having his time wasted by an intelligent enemy rather than have him completely stomp Dofy, then lose his powers and gain them back at juuuuust the right moments. It's just not dramatic to me, I hear a voice in my head screaming, "Oda could have him come back at any time, this is all artificial drama". I liked the use of Gear Second during Enies Lobby against Rob Lucci where it really strained and extended Luffy past his limits to compete with Lucci. You could really tell it was literally killing Luffy to keep up since it was already foreshadowed earlier in his first brief use of Gear Second against Blueno and made for legit real drama as the fight with Lucci reached its climax.
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Bobfly posted:I ended up starting over. Three observations after 40 chapters: Buy the cheapass omnibuses, One Piece is totally worth it and the translation only ever gets to the standard level of bad we've come to love in Impel Down.
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The next omnibus will cover the entirety of Luffy vs. Lucci. Three months til release, god drat it.
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Last Celebration posted:Buy the cheapass omnibuses, One Piece is totally worth it and the translation only ever gets to the standard level of bad we've come to love in Impel Down. I do own a good 30 of those in Danish, but they're in storage, and buying them twice does seem slightly excessive. I remember the Danish translation as decently charming, actually, despite (I think) being translated via German.
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The Viz translation is pretty good, but there are a few odd translations of words. Why is the Polyglyph/Poneglyph spelt Ponegliff? What in the hell prompted that spelling? It's covered in glyphs, not gliffs.
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Wasn't there a time someone used "Elbaph"?
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So should we expect a new chapter at some point in the next few days or is it on break again this week?
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tsob posted:So should we expect a new chapter at some point in the next few days or is it on break again this week? I think the chapter we got last week is the one we should have gotten this week, but early. So I don't think there should be a chapter this week since we already got it.
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It'll be two weeks on Saturday since 811 was linked ITT, so I guess that makes sense.
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Yeah 811 dropped early. Check back here next week before you get the shakes.
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Ever wonder how much Oda is making off One Piece? According to this Kotaku article, around 26 million dollars per year. I know One Piece probably won't be done for a while, but I can totally see Oda relaxing easy for the rest of his life once he is done.
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Looking at his schedule and sleep hours, even if he finishes it, he won't be alive for long by that point to enjoy the money.
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Angry Lobster posted:Looking at his schedule and sleep hours, even if he finishes it, he won't be alive for long by that point to enjoy the money. And the amount of cigs he smokes, judging from the cigarette stubs on his desk in the photos of his work area.
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Angry Lobster posted:Looking at his schedule and sleep hours, even if he finishes it, he won't be alive for long by that point to enjoy the money. You want my treasure? You can have it! I left it all in...Chapter 1000.
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Last Celebration posted:You want my treasure? You can have it! I left it all in...Chapter 1000. 2 years from now? I don't expect the series to end until at least Chapter 1400. Edit: vvv My bad, I mathed wrong. I still don't see it ending in less than a decade though. jassa fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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jassa posted:2 years from now? I don't expect the series to end until at least Chapter 1400. Chapter 1000 is more like 4-5 years from now. Remember that a year is 52 weeks and then remove holidays and weeks off and such.
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Yeah we're getting something like 38 chapters a year.
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JosephWongKS posted:And the amount of cigs he smokes, judging from the cigarette stubs on his desk in the photos of his work area. I wonder which story arcs drove him into his chronic smoking habits the most? I bet something easy like the Davy Back Fights kept him a 5-packs-a-day guy but things like Dressrosa bumped him to twenty  EDIT: now I wanna see what carnival comic Oda would make running on an ounce of mary-j
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:With the creative works Japan puts out, it's hard to believe they're not on drugs. They are. It's amphetamines. It's like the one drug in Japan that's huge, and they don't talk about it. Mushrooms were legal for a long time too, so I think that really sums up the entire creative works of the country...... I never thought about it until now.
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It does explain their output rate, though. Aren't amphetamines also super illegal in Japan? IIRC even if you have a prescription for it if you travel into the country with any in your possession they'll throw you in jail. I guess that's why they don't talk about it.
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Space-Bird posted:They are. It's amphetamines. It's like the one drug in Japan that's huge, and they don't talk about it. Mushrooms were legal for a long time too, so I think that really sums up the entire creative works of the country...... I never thought about it until now. I know Ketamine is apparently popular in Taiwan. Are Japanese people into K-holes or no? And are there no psilocybin mushrooms in all of Japan? And uh... I saw a movie where a Japanese teen was huffing glue fumes in a plastic bag, so I guess inhalants are a thing too?
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Fortis posted:It does explain their output rate, though. It's not the amphetamines that get them bent out of shape so much as the methamphetamine that was the problem child. Japan created Crystal Meth before World War II kicked in and got the entire nation hooked on it since they had no idea what kind of fire they were playing with. Few years roll by and, oh hey, turns out they created a country-wide epidemic once the mental cases started piling up. It took a massive effort to clean up shop in the early 50's. Walter White probably made most of his fortune from Japan alone behind-the-scenes White Light fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Jan 10, 2016 |
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Saw the preview for Gear 4. The transformation sequence they have going for it looks incredibly bad, but maybe it'll look better when it actually comes out. That stupid red tinge they have on it just ruins the effect of the form though
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All of the animations/transformations in modern One Piece Anime are bad. Just look at the Zoro vs Pica "Fight", for example. Toei just doesn't care about putting effort into it anymore. Also, I would like to point out how dumb and garish all of the colors have been throughout Dressrosa. Some of it is on Oda, like Green Hair Bart, Pink Hair Rebecca, but all of the colors on the family are UGLY, and for some reason, let's change Dolfy's cool Blue shades for red ones. Tl;Dr: One Piece Anime character design sucks.
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Julias posted:Pink Hair Rebecca I kind of assumed Rebecca would be a redhead. Reason. 
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Julias posted:All of the animations/transformations in modern One Piece Anime are bad. Just look at the Zoro vs Pica "Fight", for example. Toei just doesn't care about putting effort into it anymore. On the bright side, Doffy got his old pre-timeskip clothes/color scheme in a brief flashback with him first hearing about Luffy defeating Crocodile in the latest anime episode. I was surprised.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:On the bright side, Doffy got his old pre-timeskip clothes/color scheme in a brief flashback with him first hearing about Luffy defeating Crocodile in the latest anime episode. I was surprised. That's good...but didn't he still have the Dressrosa design, including red shades, during the Law Flashback?
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Julias posted:That's good...but didn't he still have the Dressrosa design, including red shades, during the Law Flashback? I think so.  Maybe Doffy was just feeling stylish when we saw him pre-timeskip?
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