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Astrofig posted:Here's one I haven't seen mentioned yet---the Minnesota Starvation Experiment.
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pookel posted:The part I find unnerving about this is that their "semi-starvation" diet consisted of approximately 1,560 calories a day - just slightly under the 1600-1800 calories generally recommended to women who are dieting. And yes, men are taller, but young men in 1945 weren't that much taller than young women are today. (I'm not sure what calorie target is suggested for dieting men these days.) I always heard it was what ever weight you were shooting for x10. So if you want to weigh 180lbs you eat 1800 calories a day.
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Jan 12, 2016 17:41
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Mr. Flunchy posted:A man is found dead in a locked hotel room, apparently from natural causes. But during the autopsy, a mortician discovers that his organs are crushed and he bears all the signs of suffering a violent beating, yet there's no external marks or signs of anyone else being in the hotel room. Everyone is baffled. You know what I find unnerving? The way Vanity Fair articles describe everyone's hairstyle regardless of what the article is about. It's loving weird.
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Jan 12, 2016 18:14
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pookel posted:The part I find unnerving about this is that their "semi-starvation" diet consisted of approximately 1,560 calories a day - just slightly under the 1600-1800 calories generally recommended to women who are dieting. And yes, men are taller, but young men in 1945 weren't that much taller than young women are today. (I'm not sure what calorie target is suggested for dieting men these days.) I'm a woman who is 5'3" 120 lbs, recently dieted and lost about 33% of my body weight within less than a year, and does not eat more than 1500 calories a day as a general rule so this study doesn't make sense to me and I wonder if I'm missing something. I kind of wonder if it has something to do with them eating "potatoes, rutabagas, turnips, bread and macaroni" and other foods that aren't full of the delicious fats, carbs, and salt that make people happy. I know when I go a couple weeks on the "broke as gently caress" diet, eating canned peas and corn and basically whatever random food I can scavenge from a pantry, even though I'm technically meeting my caloric requirements I start desperately wanting some real food and sometimes even actually dreaming about gorging myself at night.
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Jan 12, 2016 18:46
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republicant posted:I'm a woman who is 5'3" 120 lbs, recently dieted and lost about 33% of my body weight within less than a year, and does not eat more than 1500 calories a day as a general rule so this study doesn't make sense to me and I wonder if I'm missing something. I kind of wonder if it has something to do with them eating "potatoes, rutabagas, turnips, bread and macaroni" and other foods that aren't full of the delicious fats, carbs, and salt that make people happy. I know when I go a couple weeks on the "broke as gently caress" diet, eating canned peas and corn and basically whatever random food I can scavenge from a pantry, even though I'm technically meeting my caloric requirements I start desperately wanting some real food and sometimes even actually dreaming about gorging myself at night. Yeah, they were eating no protein, and exercising. Their post-starvation weight was what you weigh now. It is totally normal for small women to eat <1800 calories a day without losing weight. I can too. But there are lots of men whose appropriate weight is almost twice mine.
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Jan 12, 2016 18:59
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To me the unnerving part is the diets that tell you to eat in starvation quantities, but then I'm a 5'3" woman who used to eat about 2000 calories a day when I weighed 120, and now that I weigh quite a bit more I eat more like 2500-3000 without gaining weight. I could probably lose weight pretty quickly at 2200. Might be a metabolism thing. If they were forcing them to exercise that'd make a huge difference, too. My dad talks about the days when he drove a food truck and had to load/unload it himself twice a day, and at 5'7", 120 lbs, he was eating about 5000 calories a day.
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Jan 12, 2016 19:33
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That is one tiny dude.
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Jan 12, 2016 20:38
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Solice Kirsk posted:That is one tiny dude.
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Jan 12, 2016 21:37
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Wow. I'm one if the shorter men in my group of friends and I'm 5'10". Only one guy is shorter than me and he's 5'9". I guess it's not that far off though. But under 5'5" is a short guy no matter what.
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Jan 13, 2016 06:19
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dad short. so what
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Jan 13, 2016 06:29
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Do you just live in a super white place with no Mexicans or Asians? I know a bunch of dudes under 5'5.
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Jan 13, 2016 07:43
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People come in different sizes now?
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Jan 13, 2016 09:02
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Y'all are fuckin tiny, goddamn.
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Jan 13, 2016 09:09
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Do you just live in a super white place with no Mexicans or Asians? I know a bunch of dudes under 5'5. I'm a 5'6" guy in 94.3% white Vermont and have only met three guys shorter than me, so yes. Average height is 5'10"+ here. My younger brother and all his friends tower over me.
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Jan 13, 2016 09:17
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Solice Kirsk posted:Wow. I'm one if the shorter men in my group of friends and I'm 5'10". Only one guy is shorter than me and he's 5'9". I guess it's not that far off though. But under 5'5" is a short guy no matter what. Yep, can confirm - I'm 5'9" and the tallest of my other siblings, all older than me. Oldest brother is 5'7", sister is 5'1", second older brother is 5'3". Our mom is 5'3" and their dad is 5'5", I lucked out since my dad is 5'10" and grandpa was around 6'1". Any time all of us kids are together it's assumed that my second older brother and sister are younger than me and my oldest brother, just based on height alone. Kinda funny actually.
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Jan 13, 2016 17:06
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El Estrago Bonito posted:Do you just live in a super white place with no Mexicans or Asians? I know a bunch of dudes under 5'5. I live in Chicago and am Hispanic. I see short guys all the time. Doesn't change the fact that they are short. Average height for US men is 5'10".
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Jan 13, 2016 17:12
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Today on the creepy stories thread: goons discover the Normal distribution.
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Jan 13, 2016 17:13
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As apology for starting the shortness derail, I offer a dwarfism-related creepy story: The Ovitz family of performing dwarfs was the largest family group to survive Auschwitz, as a result of Dr. Mengele giving them special treatment to ensure they would stay alive. However, they did not escape his medical experiments: quote:At Auschwitz Elizabeth and her family were segregated and subjected to all manner of frenetic experimentation. As Elizabeth would write: http://www.thehumanmarvels.com/the-ovitz-family-nazi-experiments/ And a longer story on them from the Guardian, which corrects some factual discrepancies in the family's published accounts: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/23/the-dwarves-of-auschwitz
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Jan 13, 2016 17:53
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JMBosch posted:Always a crapshoot with the American healthcare system: I think they joined the Quiverfill movement, the same one the Duggars are. pookel posted:As apology for starting the shortness derail, I offer a dwarfism-related creepy story: When filming Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory in Germany they had a hard time finding enough dwarves to play the Oompa-Loompas because most of them had been killed in the concentration camps.
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Jan 13, 2016 18:28
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There were a fair amount of surviving twins who were experimented on by Mengele as well, as they were one of his favorite subjects. The most famous of which were probably Eva and Miriam Kor http://www.auschwitz.dk/eva.htm http://time.com/3633858/genetic-experiments-holocaust/
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Jan 13, 2016 19:50
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System The myriad of factors and variables that needed to be accounted for in the designing of the GPS is mind-boggling. The main variable is time; transmitters and receivers need perfectly synchronized clocks in order to accurately calculate positions. Keep in mind that the length of a second in geosynchronous orbit is longer than the length of a second on Earth due to general relativity. It's unnerving how delicate the whole system is. It's also unnerving that I'll never be smart enough to fully understand it 
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Jan 13, 2016 20:02
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If that unnerves you then it's a miracle you manage to get out of bed every day.
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Jan 13, 2016 20:35
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car Terrifying if you think about how cars can kill people by hitting them very fast
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Jan 13, 2016 20:41
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SciFiDownBeat posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System Yes, the thought of a lot of technologically dependent people getting lost on their way to the theatre when the GPS system fails can be unnerving, but Pro Tip: There are often people in the real world who can give you directions to local destinations. I know it can be scary to talk to them, and you may have to write it down (this requires a pen or pencil and a thing called 'paper'), but it often works.
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Jan 13, 2016 20:57
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It's truly a thing of beauty that a post about how scary GPS is immediately followed a post about the Goddamn Holocaust.
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Jan 13, 2016 21:07
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It's not an article, but obsession with the Holocaust and WWII freaks me out. I work with a teenager who keeps drawing Nazi fan art and all her fanfiction is about Aryan supermen. I'm fairly certain it's from all the manga she reads.
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Jan 13, 2016 21:42
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Filox posted:Yes, the thought of a lot of technologically dependent people getting lost on their way to the theatre when the GPS system fails can be unnerving, but Pro Tip: There are often people in the real world who can give you directions to local destinations. I know it can be scary to talk to them, and you may have to write it down (this requires a pen or pencil and a thing called 'paper'), but it often works. A scarier thought would be how this is going to be handled once we let cars and semi trucks drive themselves around.
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Jan 13, 2016 21:55
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Obviously if a self driving car/truck gets lost it can just stop and ASK for directions like anyone else, geez.
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Jan 13, 2016 22:33
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Sorry, I didn't realize you need potent bloodlust to be allowed to post ITT. Here's a story about a baby and a microwave.
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Jan 13, 2016 22:58
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Acne Rain posted:Obviously if a self driving car/truck gets lost it can just stop and ASK for directions like anyone else, geez. Or they could just pull out their phonebook and look at the god drat map.
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SciFiDownBeat posted:Sorry, I didn't realize you need potent bloodlust to be allowed to post ITT. This is why you should always poke holes in your baby before microwaving it.
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Jan 13, 2016 23:06
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SciFiDownBeat posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System It's a bunch of loving clocks.
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Aesop Poprock posted:There were a fair amount of surviving twins who were experimented on by Mengele as well, as they were one of his favorite subjects. The most famous of which were probably Eva and Miriam Kor quote:People often ask me, “Why didn’t you run away?” I am convinced those people know very little about Auschwitz.
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Jan 14, 2016 03:10
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Obviously he should have bootstrapped his way out of Auschwitz instead of leeching off government handouts (of sadistic vivisection).
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Jan 14, 2016 17:30
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Isn't Concentration Camp like Fat Camp? Concentrate about things by the campfire, swim in the lake a bit, water balloon fights. Sounds fun to me, why are Jews so whiny? Plus Europe is fancy and someday I will leave Arkansas.
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Man, Sword and Scale really would be unlistenable if not for the wealth of goon opinions and warnings about it I absorbed reading this thread. Like the instant he started talking about Three Guys One Hammer or w/e that video is called I knew instantly to skip the next ten minutes and come out untarnished. I'm soooo glad I'm not 12 years old anymore and inexplicably compelled to desensitizing myself through shock videos, coming up these days I probably would have watched that Icepick video like I stupidly watched Three Guys One Hammer as a youngen. Going by what everyone said about him I'd assumed he was some creepy voiced dork with lovely production values, I'd just assumed he was some smalltime true crimes freak, but honestly what impressed me most about Sword and Scale are the production values. Decent host voice but more importantly, drat it's got some great music, it's so weird listening to a creepyass episode and just jamming out. What I found most disturbing about that Canadian pornstar maniac, to be honest, were the recordings of idiots and kids listening to the video. "Oh boy I've watched shock videos before, here are my reactions, oh wow I shouldn't be seeing this right now!!!!! *a man is like, playing with human limbs, NO poo poo DUMBASS*" I'm so glad there wasn't any audio of the video proper other than the music, it was truly disturbing and sad enough listening to these morons officially immortalized as the people who actually decided to watch that freaking murder video he so eagerly advertised and disseminated. Like, congratulations. Pretty sad hearing the little kid voices listening in and doing reaction videos though, that really cannot be healthy... Honestly it's poo poo like that and this in internet culture I find particularly disturbing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tukUFoR4T That article earlier about the destruction of an American family by internet trolls was pretty solid too.
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RC and Moon Pie posted:The Long Fall of Phoebe Jonchuck - Despite spending a lifetime in the legal system, with many violent arrests, John Jonchuck wasn't considered a threat by police and DFC. Then he threw his daughter off a bridge. Jesus loving christ what the gently caress is wrong with the state of Florida
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Aesop Poprock posted:There were a fair amount of surviving twins who were experimented on by Mengele as well, as they were one of his favorite subjects. The most famous of which were probably Eva and Miriam Kor Eva later recalled how a set of Gypsy twins was brought back from Mengele's lab after they were sewn back to back. Mengele had attempted to create a Siamese twin by connecting blood vessels and organs. The twins screamed day and night until gangrene set in, and after three days, they died. 
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Degenerate Star posted:Eva later recalled how a set of Gypsy twins was brought back from Mengele's lab after they were sewn back to back. Mengele had attempted to create a Siamese twin by connecting blood vessels and organs. The twins screamed day and night until gangrene set in, and after three days, they died. So The Human Centipede was a documentary huh
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