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Trabisnikof posted:If you get your ideas of what the election will be like from primary fundraising numbers the only one being shot in the foot is you. I was just using it as a point that the Dems have their poo poo together. A Man With A Plan posted:Small donor fundraising is the only thing that matters, which is why we have lived in the Ron Pauliphate of America these past 16 years. Not even touching on the fact Bernie =/= Ron Paul for many reasons if were talking small donor fundraising Bernie blows him out of the water. Obama also did shitloads of small donor fundraising and well, OBAMA'S AMERICA
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Venom Snake posted:I was just using it as a point that the Dems have their poo poo together. That may be true, but the general is very much in contention this far out.
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MaxxBot posted:It's possible to recognize the difference between the two and not view "reverse racism" as a legitimate issue while also thinking the "lol kill whites" stuff is dumb and unfunny. Of course it is, you don't see me saying it, do you? So our self-identified White Ally should probably criticize it on those grounds instead of the reverse racism poo poo if he wants all those back-pats for being One of the Good Ones.
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Jan 13, 2016 00:19
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I wonder how many times someone is going to say, "it means nothing but also its why you're totally wrong" w/r/t general election polling and Bernie Sanders
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Jan 13, 2016 00:26
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Luigi Thirty posted:Here's the equivalent Republican poll from yesterday. Bush at -23 favorable why is he still in this loving race?
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Jan 13, 2016 00:29
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blue squares posted:I wonder how many times someone is going to say, "it means nothing but also its why you're totally wrong" w/r/t polling depends on how much you watch cable tv
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Jan 13, 2016 00:29
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Trabisnikof posted:depends on how much you watch cable tv or read this thread
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Jan 13, 2016 00:30
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blue squares posted:or read this thread people get different results from ambiguous measurement tool, news at 11
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Jan 13, 2016 00:32
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Trabisnikof posted:people get different results from ambiguous measurement tool, news at 11 I was mocking the inherent stupidity of claiming something is both meaningless and also meaningful
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Jan 13, 2016 00:33
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Man, if Clinton really does lose the democratic nomination then we deserve Trump. Democrats make shooting themselves in their own foot a loving work of art. Does that mean you won't vote for bernie when he wins the primary?
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Jan 13, 2016 00:34
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On Terra Firma posted:why is he still in this loving race? Waiting for the right moment to deploy the Jeb! Blimp and leave Wolf Blitzer breathless.
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Jan 13, 2016 00:34
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On Terra Firma posted:why is he still in this loving race? fifty million USD
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blue squares posted:I was mocking the inherent stupidity of claiming something is both meaningless and also meaningful but was anyone actually doing that in this thread? There is a quote button you can use that helps make your point clearer when you're referring to other posters. On Terra Firma posted:why is he still in this loving race? still trying to sink Rubio I guess
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Jan 13, 2016 00:36
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On Terra Firma posted:why is he still in this loving race? I'm pretty sure that's a Cards Against Humanity card
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Jan 13, 2016 00:36
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Trabisnikof posted:but was anyone actually doing that in this thread? There is a quote button you can use that helps make your point clearer when you're referring to other posters. ReidRansom posted:e: ^^^^ Sanders is currently polling better in the general against all republicans including Trump, not that it means too much right now constantly
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Jan 13, 2016 00:37
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blue squares posted:constantly Something can be notable and yet inconsequential. You might point out that a third-grader is the tallest kid in his class, yet still know that doesn't mean he's going to be the tallest when he's grown up.
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Jan 13, 2016 00:42
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On Terra Firma posted:why is he still in this loving race? He's got enough money and political clout to play the long game. He's hoping Trump & Cruz fizzle out after Iowa/NH, at which point he can go full tilt against Rubio's immigration policies and claw his way back up. He's also almost too big to fail at this point. He's been given so much money and backed by so many fat cats that if he pulled out now, it'd generate a lot of animosity among his high-roller donors. If he holds on to the bitter end and fails, he can run in 2020 and coax donors back with "it was a bad climate for me last time, we've learned our lessons. This time I have a shot." If he pulls out, he burns a lot of bridges and nobody is going to jump on ship again for another crack at running.
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On Terra Firma posted:why is he still in this loving race? I think he's spent his entire life (or at least a significant portion of it) being told/believing/expecting that one day he will be President. Dubya kinda stole his thunder on that one but he did his part to help out the family and now it's his turn, and I don't think he can wrap his head around the idea that it's just not going to happen. Romney seemed to have a similar thing in that he had to beat his dad by doing what he never could... except he couldn't either.
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fknlo posted:Bernouts are going to lose their poo poo if/when Bernie doesn't win Iowa and New Hampshire. Dragging this up from a few pages ago, but...I'm going to lose my poo poo if he does. Disclaimer: I agree with Bernie, his politics mirror mine to a large degree, I would vote for Bernie if I were in a primary state that mattered, but I absolutely do not want him to win the primary. Because if God forbid it should be Sanders vs. Trump  I have no interest in rolling the dice on that one.
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I think it basically comes down to Jeb not being able to go home and look his family in the eye at this stage. His reputation is ruined. His political legacy is in the dirt. He's embarrassed himself and the family name. He highfived the guy he said insulted his wife. Jeb's a mess right now, or at least his ego is, and he just has to keep hanging on because things can't get any worse. Only they keep getting worse and every low reveals a new low. Jeb keeps thinking he's hit rock bottom and hoping it has to turn around so he just keeps falling and falling. Why does Jeb stay in the race? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g2JN2PrHJg&t=48s
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I'm all for ¡Jeb! staying in as long as possible and burning as much donor money as he can. The disdain for engineering makes a lot more sense now that I've seen how many of you work with software engineers. Environmental engineering probably doesn't attract many Randroids or bitter nerd shutins.
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blue squares posted:constantly lol you got beef. I think that's the one time I said it. Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Something can be notable and yet inconsequential. You might point out that a third-grader is the tallest kid in his class, yet still know that doesn't mean he's going to be the tallest when he's grown up. But yeah, it's this, kind of. There's a reason polling organizations do these things. You can't extrapolate what the results will be ten months from now, sure, and in that sense it's meaningless, but you can see that right now, whatever little it may mean in terms of predicting the future, the situation is a certain way.
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ReidRansom posted:lol you got beef. I think that's the one time I said it.
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Well, turns out, while 10 U.S. sailors are being detained in Iran tonight, Obama is still going to tout his iran deal. And, of course, will ignore completely said sailors. Also, this is cute, but Iran will most likely not release the sailors tonight because it's gonna be dark out there  thank goodness they're looking out for them.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Well, turns out, while 10 U.S. sailors are being detained in Iran tonight, Obama is still going to tout his iran deal. And, of course, will ignore completely said sailors. As a Navy veteran, I can assure you, we're better off without them
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blue squares posted:Nah, I just used your quote as my example because you were the most recent one, that's all Fair enough then.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Well, turns out, while 10 U.S. sailors are being detained in Iran tonight, Obama is still going to tout his iran deal. And, of course, will ignore completely said sailors. You're pages late and levels short on your trolling skills buddy.
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Clinton supporters have been pushing a narrative that Sanders cannot win the general while Hillary can; and while no the polls don't mean much this far out they are also the only actual evidence we have. To use the third grader metaphor, it's unconvincing to say that Lil Hillary is definitely going to be taller than Young Bernie when they both grow up when Young Bernie is taller right now.
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Trabisnikof posted:You're pages late and levels short on your trolling skills buddy. Cut me some slack, I just got home. Why is this trolling? This is USPol, politics and the optics of them are fair game. Unless you think Iranians holding US military is a good thing for Obama? vvvvv Well now we're making some sense here vvvvv BetterToRuleInHell fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Jan 13, 2016 |
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Cut me some slack, I just got home. It's a good thing for Obama because it will further his lust for jihad
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Cut me some slack, I just got home. it's a good thing because it will give the republican candidates a good platform to talk about how they would immediately invade Iran if they were in his place, only to look incredibly stupid when the sailors are released tomorrow
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:Clinton supporters have been pushing a narrative that Sanders cannot win the general while Hillary can; and while no the polls don't mean much this far out they are also the only actual evidence we have. This is basically puts to words what I've been thinking. All I hear is how amazing Hilary is and how crazy Bernie is and it really doesn't add up. He's debating well, polling well, and is independent from big money. Everyone wants Hilary because she hates Republicans more? Whee.... I don't really care about that since her policies are basically 90s republican to begin with.
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Jan 13, 2016 01:19
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I'm glad Flint water story is gaining national traction. America needs to be made aware of what kind of scum Rick Snyder is.
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:it's a good thing because it will give the republican candidates a good platform to talk about how they would immediately invade Iran if they were in his place, only to look incredibly stupid when the sailors are released tomorrow Hoooly gently caress, man. Do you really believe, in the general election, republicans are going to be worse off than democrats when this is brought up again? Jesus christ, USPol. I can't wait to see how you implode during the general election.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Of course it is, you don't see me saying it, do you? So our self-identified White Ally should probably criticize it on those grounds instead of the reverse racism poo poo if he wants all those back-pats for being One of the Good Ones. Jesus you're sanctimonious. Clearly anyone who questions the majesty of anything you say is The Oppressor. Any discussion with you ever turns into passive-aggressive sniping of the other person's motives. Seriously, only you could turn "Maybe we could use a firebrand Democrat to push a progressive agenda that would work for more than just whites" into "Raaagh White Liberals!"
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Because of course it would be the "House Freedom Caucus"
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I'm glad Flint water story is gaining national traction. America needs to be made aware of what kind of scum Rick Snyder is. Is it getting much? I see a ton of coverage of it on NBC/MSNBC but I haven't seen much on other channels. I was really annoyed that yesterday while MSNBC was showing Snyder's press conference CNN and Fox News were waiting for the Affluenza Mom to show up at court. It seemed to sum up things well. A tabloid story about one rich white family is more compelling than a human tragedy of thousands of poor black people being poisoned by the government's decisions and coverups. I saw Fox News mention it last week and they presented the story like it was brand new and didn't mention any of the coverup stuff or the issue of the governor appointed city manager. Its an absolutely horrifying story that SHOULD be a national scandal.
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:Also, Hillary vs Bernie chat is the worst and has its own thread for a very good reason No, the worst was pages of STEM bullshit, same as it always is.
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