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Lightning just downgrades to MDP (mini-display port, for those of you following along at home) when you plug in an MDP device though, right?
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Lightning is the connector for an iPhone.
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Jan 13, 2016 05:48
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lilspooky posted:How long have you had your 15? You've plugged speakers / headphones into the 3.5 jack? I've had mine for about a month. Plugged headphones or a speaker line into/out of it almost every day. No issues so far. Do you have the latest audio drivers from Dell's site?
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Jan 13, 2016 05:52
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Hadlock posted:Lightning just downgrades to MDP (mini-display port, for those of you following along at home) when you plug in an MDP device though, right? It definitely does on a Macbook Pro and I would expect it to on Windows too.
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Jan 13, 2016 07:23
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sarehu posted:Lightning is the connector for an iPhone. Doesn't the iPhone ship with a USB adapter though? Can you charge an iPhone off of a MDP port?
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Jan 13, 2016 07:49
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Anybody have experience with the new model of the ThinkPad yoga 14? Best buy has the i5/256ssd/8gb/940/wacom digitizer configuration for $700 and I'm in urgent need of a laptop this week. Did Lenovo ever address the bios malware thing?
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Jan 13, 2016 08:28
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Bob Morales posted:Good screens: X240 with 1080p (tiny though), T450S IPS Thanks, that's approximately what I was hoping. There's an IPS T450s on the Lenovo outlet site; just needs an SSD and some RAM. Hmm.
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Jan 13, 2016 17:10
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Hadlock posted:Doesn't the iPhone ship with a USB adapter though? Can you charge an iPhone off of a MDP port? No, lightning is essentially just a nicer connector for USB 2.0 at this point, and offers no extra features. It's been suppassed by USB-C. There have never been lightning ports on anything other than iOS devices and a couple of 3rd party batteries / charging cases.
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Jan 13, 2016 18:12
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wooger posted:There have never been lightning ports on anything other than iOS devices and a couple of 3rd party batteries / charging cases. There are Lightning headphones
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Jan 13, 2016 18:23
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Hadlock posted:Doesn't the iPhone ship with a USB adapter though? Can you charge an iPhone off of a MDP port? You are conflating Lightning and Thunderbolt I think. Apple is dumb for that entire naming decision. Lightning is basically USB 2, whereas Thunderbolt is mDP+PCI-E (for 2.0) and USB-C+PCI-E (for 3.0).
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Jan 13, 2016 19:11
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wooger posted:No, lightning is essentially just a nicer connector for USB 2.0 at this point, and offers no extra features. Lightning does offer features USB 2.0 doesn't have. Like being able to plug the connector in either way, it doesn't have to be facing a certain way. Also, it supports USB 3.0 speeds so that would be a better comparison.
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Jan 13, 2016 19:18
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mrpeaches posted:I've had mine for about a month. Plugged headphones or a speaker line into/out of it almost every day. No issues so far. Do you have the latest audio drivers from Dell's site? Yup everything is fully updated. Apparently on another forum several others who are having the same problem cite the Dell Audio program as the culprit.
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Bob Morales posted:Lightning does offer features USB 2.0 doesn't have. Like being able to plug the connector in either way, it doesn't have to be facing a certain way. There are USB-A cables that have the reversible capability, though not executed as elegantly as USB-C. For example, there are those very thin flash drives that just have traces on both sides so you can plug them into the slot either way. Additionally I have a Matias keyboard that has what appears to be a USB-A connector, but inside the metal shielding it's a similar thin wafer with traces on both sides so it can plug in either way.
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Jan 13, 2016 20:40
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TopherCStone posted:There are USB-A cables that have the reversible capability, though not executed as elegantly as USB-C. For example, there are those very thin flash drives that just have traces on both sides so you can plug them into the slot either way. Additionally I have a Matias keyboard that has what appears to be a USB-A connector, but inside the metal shielding it's a similar thin wafer with traces on both sides so it can plug in either way. Sure, some unicorn devices can but it's not a standard for the connector
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Jan 13, 2016 20:46
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USB-C cables are the worst:
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ExcessBLarg! posted:USB-C cables are the worst: I wouldn't have irrational hate for USB-C if it wasn't for the thread of 'this is the only port you're going to get', at least from Apple
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Jan 13, 2016 21:47
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Remember when laptops had like four or five USB-A ports because you always need more ports? What happened?
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Remember when laptops had like four or five USB-A ports because you always need more ports? I know some did, but so much is built-in these days they don't. Bluetooth, Wifi, etc. I'm happy with 2 ports on my Air. Then you have a separate port for an external display, you're not using your ONE AND ONLY port to connect to a monitor.
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Jan 13, 2016 21:54
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ExcessBLarg! posted:Remember when laptops had like four or five USB-A ports because you always need more ports? We gotta shrink the laptop man. Even Lenovo has given up on VGA ports on some of their skylake models so they can make thinner laptops.
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I think USB C-C cables are the long term plan. Those other cables will still exist, but only for legacy device support. Laptops only have one or two USB ports because there's not enough real estate on modern laptops, which are either too thin or have tapered edges. Also most of the functionality of USB devices has been rolled in to the laptop itself, for example WiFi and Bluetooth.
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Jan 13, 2016 22:21
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Hadlock posted:Also most of the functionality of USB devices has been rolled in to the laptop itself, for example WiFi and Bluetooth. What the gently caress is wrong with companies that make those proprietary wireless mice that need a tiny little USB dongle? 
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Jan 13, 2016 22:26
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At least they just work with zero hassle which is more than can be said for Bluetooth mice (at least on Windows)
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anyone have any thoughts on this Lenovo laptop from Bestbuy? Just trying to find out if this is actually a good deal with the $300 off. I havnt seen anything comparable really from companies i trust, but even doing some reading up im still a laptard when it comes to seeing whats good/bad. Its a bit more than what i had wanted to pay, but i figure it will work for light gaming on medium/low in 720p for atleast a few years unless im reading stuff on the 940m gpu wrong with semi-modern titles. Seems the only gripe ive found online with it is that it tends to have some light bleed on the screen. Im ready to pull the trigger today, but i just wanted some opinions, especially from anyone who may own this model or variations of it.
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Bob Morales posted:What the gently caress is wrong with companies that make those proprietary wireless mice that need a tiny little USB dongle? Logitech mice are awesome, you take that back.
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Bob Morales posted:What the gently caress is wrong with companies that make those proprietary wireless mice that need a tiny little USB dongle?
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My girlfriend's old-as-sin MacBook Air is on its way out and she's looking for a new laptop for school and pleasure. She wants the following: -Can run a web browser, Netflix, and Skype at the same time -Upgradeable RAM in case she needs to do very basic video editing (think presentations) or music recording with something like the light version of Ableton -Has a nicer form factor similar to the MacBook Air line without paying Mac prices - this is actually the most important thing to her, she doesn't want it to look like a big square thing. It'd be great to hit the $640 price point, I think we can probably go lower since what she wants is so basic but I know you guys will offer the expertise! Anything jump to mind?
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Anything with upgradeable RAM probably isnt going to be Macbook Air-thin.
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Oh, thin isn't that important. Square and ugly is the bad.  She would be happy with something MacBook Pro size if it looked nice~
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ExcessBLarg! posted:My guess is that there's licensing for Bluetooth that makes Bluetooth mice cost significantly more than USB nub ones. Plus most desktops don't have Bluetooth anyways so you'd need one there too. That doesn't exactly make sense, because often the nubs are running over bluetooth themselves. I think it's more to simplify the pairing process as people are bad at such things.
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While some of them do use Bluetooth nubs the vast majority do not.
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ExcessBLarg! posted:My guess is that there's licensing for Bluetooth that makes Bluetooth mice cost significantly more than USB nub ones. Plus most desktops don't have Bluetooth anyways so you'd need one there too. I believe the 2.4ghz dongles tend to have much lower latency than bluetooth. I know that WiFi-Direct has been used for a lot of game controllers lately because of the unavoidable latency in bluetooth.
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Skandranon posted:That doesn't exactly make sense, because often the nubs are running over bluetooth themselves. I think it's more to simplify the pairing process as people are bad at such things. A lot of them use radio frequencies instead of bluetooth unless im mistaken.
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Quidnose posted:My girlfriend's old-as-sin MacBook Air is on its way out and she's looking for a new laptop for school and pleasure. She wants the following: Wait for the 13" Air to show up on Slickdeals for $799 again?
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After being announced in August for an October-November release, the ThinkPad P50 is finally available in the US direct from Lenovo: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/p-series/p50/ My W530 is slowly failing so I'll probably buy this. Is there anything else competing with a P50 with the requirements of
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Fruit Chewy posted:I believe the 2.4ghz dongles tend to have much lower latency than bluetooth. grimcreaper posted:A lot of them use radio frequencies instead of bluetooth unless im mistaken. Bluetooth IS 2.4ghz radio frequencies. The issue is down to the protocol itself, it just isn't a low latency protocol and this can be seen anywhere from input to audio. That and the bluetooth stacks for devices tend to be on the lovely side.
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Malloc Voidstar posted:After being announced in August for an October-November release, the ThinkPad P50 is finally available in the US direct from Lenovo: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/p-series/p50/ The P70 can be configured with a Xeon, 8GB video card, 3840 x 2160 IPS screen, 64GB of RAM, and 4 storage drives? 
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Haha I have exsi hosts with less power than those.
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grimcreaper posted:A lot of them use radio frequencies instead of bluetooth unless im mistaken. Yes, many of them do as well, mine is using something in the 1000Hz range, I was just saying that the usage of nubs probably isn't due to Bluetooth licencing, but because it's so much easier to have a good user experience with one, rather than "Follow these directions to pair the mouse with your built in Bluetooth. Hope you installed the drivers for it. Oh, you don't have Bluetooth built in? Well then, here is a nub, just plug it in and it works like magic".
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quote:-Upgradeable RAM in case she needs to do very basic video editing (think presentations) or music recording with something like the light version of Ableton I'm not seeing that. You can get two of those, but not all three. I found a last years xenbook with a 256ssd and 8gb of RAM for $629 on Amazon. I think that's as close as you're getting. You're giving up upgradeable RAM in favor of just buying 8 in the first place. It would be a hundred or two more, but I'd set an alert for a MacBook Air on refurb.me and nab a 13 or 14 when they come up--Apple refurbs are pristine. On the "doesn't need to be thin just attractive" thing. Being an MB Air owner who works often with those generic 15.6" boat anchors at work, I would strap the dying MBA to a 2 pound brick and let her drag that around for a while before she decides it's ok. Once you get used to an under 3 pound laptop, dragging something bigger around becomes really intolerable.
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