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Quote of the night, "Sen. Sanders wands to devolve the authority to set up state health insurance programs to individual state governors. Now maybe if I lived in a place like New Hampshire, with your governor, I would feel okay about that. But if I lived in a state that had a Republican governor, particularly a Republican governor who already turned down Medicaid expansion matching funds, I don't think I would be comfortable, right? Because I don't want to live in a country that has an unequal health care system again." ~ Chelsea Clinton.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Oh for sure man Having not one, but two people who are so ashamed of their heritage that they try to be as white as possible is quite the accomplishment.
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Jan 13, 2016 05:51
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DemeaninDemon posted:He does like to drink a lot of water. Now is the time for me to repost Politico's hard-hitting drat Rubio Drinks A Fuckton of Water exposé
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Jan 13, 2016 05:53
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Joementum posted:Quote of the night, "Sen. Sanders wands to devolve the authority to set up state health insurance programs to individual state governors. Now maybe if I lived in a place like New Hampshire, with your governor, I would feel okay about that. But if I lived in a state that had a Republican governor, particularly a Republican governor who already turned down Medicaid expansion matching funds, I don't think I would be comfortable, right? Because I don't want to live in a country that has an unequal health care system again." ~ Chelsea Clinton. While I'm happy I can finally get insurance, I really don't feel I get the same care as Her.
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Jan 13, 2016 05:55
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Combed Thunderclap posted:Now is the time for me to repost Politico's hard-hitting drat Rubio Drinks A Fuckton of Water exposé *updates likely-reptilians.xlsx*
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Jan 13, 2016 05:57
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The Clinton attacks on Bernie's health care ideas has been the most baffling and ugly part of the Democratic primary thus far.
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Jan 13, 2016 05:57
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GalacticAcid posted:The Clinton attacks on Bernie's health care ideas has been the most baffling and ugly part of the Democratic primary thus far. It's really amazing and funny how obviously scared they are of him.
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Jan 13, 2016 05:58
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Joementum posted:It's really amazing and funny how obviously scared they are of him. Nobody wants a repeat of 2008 I can tell you that much.
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Jan 13, 2016 05:58
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GalacticAcid posted:The Clinton attacks on Bernie's health care ideas has been the most baffling and ugly part of the Democratic primary thus far. To me, it's bizarre to use your (non-politician) kid as an attack dog. What's he going to do, chastise the other candidate's kid?
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Jan 13, 2016 05:59
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Another reminder of just how much being President physically kicks the poo poo out of you:
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Jan 13, 2016 06:03
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Lotka Volterra posted:To me, it's bizarre to use your (non-politician) kid as an attack dog. What's he going to do, chastise the other candidate's kid? Chelsea is completely in step with the rest of the campaign here though, Hillary attacked Bernie on this front herself yesterday and her press secretary is beating the same drum on Twitter tonight. 
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Jan 13, 2016 06:06
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GalacticAcid posted:Chelsea is completely in step with the rest of the campaign here though, Hillary attacked Bernie on this front herself yesterday and her press secretary is beating the same drum on Twitter tonight. This is true, it just seems odd to have your kid attack your opponent, as well, even though I'm sure it isn't exactly abnormal in the political sphere.
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Jan 13, 2016 06:08
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Venom Snake posted:Nobody wants a repeat of 2008 I can tell you that much. So lets start a fight over single payer!
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Jan 13, 2016 06:08
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If people spend 12% of their incomes on healthcare now then 9% is a savings of like 25%.
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Jan 13, 2016 06:10
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Trabisnikof posted:So lets start a fight over single payer! At least it demonstrates that Clinton still has those old Third Way tendencies.
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Jan 13, 2016 06:11
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Saw this while waiting for the SotU to come up. https://www.yahoo.com/katiecouric/yahoo-news-live-obergefell-on-the-state-of-the-160457331.html (Watch the first 1 to 2 mins)
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Jan 13, 2016 06:11
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Trabisnikof posted:So lets start a fight over single payer! I never said it was a smart move, but one interestingly based on possibly overcompensating for the lazy attitude that doomed the campaign in 2008
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Jan 13, 2016 06:12
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Lotka Volterra posted:This is true, it just seems odd to have your kid attack your opponent, as well, even though I'm sure it isn't exactly abnormal in the political sphere. It's usually OK when it comes to adult children, one of the Romney sons made the circuit in favor of his father, and it was actually a minor brouhaha over the straight Cheney daughter talking poo poo about the lesbian Cheney daughter as they both tried to support their father. Then again, Limbaugh had no problem trashing Chelsea when she was actually a child, so I don't think she'd personally give a gently caress of the tut-tutting of media pundits.
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Jan 13, 2016 06:12
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Venom Snake posted:Nobody wants a repeat of 2008 I can tell you that much. To derail uspol with a snarky pro-Bernie post or not to derail uspol, that is the question.
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Jan 13, 2016 06:13
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Raskolnikov38 posted:To derail uspol with a snarky pro-Bernie post or not to derail uspol, that is the question. Insert post about Bernie running a positive campaign yet internet supporters being aggressive trash monsters here
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Jan 13, 2016 06:14
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Trivia posted:Saw this while waiting for the SotU to come up. Lost it at "It must be bittersweet"
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Jan 13, 2016 06:14
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Lyapunov Unstable posted:If people spend 12% of their incomes on healthcare now then 9% is a savings of like 25%. Sure, but taxes are bad. --50% of America. I'm not sure exactly how Green Mountain Care was shaping up, but I have the impression that the need to raise taxes instead of just arguing that you were trading your premiums for the taxes was exactly the problem with that. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Jan 13, 2016 |
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Jan 13, 2016 06:14
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FAUXTON posted:Lost it at "It must be bittersweet" It just keeps getting better!
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Jan 13, 2016 06:15
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Venom Snake posted:Insert post about Bernie running a positive campaign yet internet supporters being aggressive trash monsters here Well I've got some bad news for hildawg if she's worried about a 2008 repeat. Also lol if Hillary loses due to panicking and committed unforced errors.
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Jan 13, 2016 06:15
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Trivia posted:It just keeps getting better! "Everyone who came before me" was pretty good too. e: I mean it's no surprise that Michelle Obama would have a gay man excited to be in her box.
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Jan 13, 2016 06:16
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Well I've got some bad news for hildawg if she's worried about a 2008 repeat. I think when all the negative reaction to this really gets bad she will walk it back.
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Jan 13, 2016 06:17
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Venom Snake posted:I never said it was a smart move, but one interestingly based on possibly overcompensating for the lazy attitude that doomed the campaign in 2008 I don't know. She may have started out lazy in 2008, but I think a combination of her desperation to shut down Obama through the same type of statements and complaints were at least part of her undoing, then. One of the things I remember is her pivot to try to attract the vote of Appalachia White Democrats who hadn't yet caught on to the party realignment, attack ads like the 3AM phone call, and cute nicknames like Obambi from her supporters. Not to ignore the stupid misogynistic bullshit from the Obama supporters in the Obamarama threads, however. The very things that make her a great politician like her viciousness could quite possibly hurt her as a campaigner. e: For Clinton, perhaps things are happening first as a tragedy, then as a farce. :zizek:
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Jan 13, 2016 06:23
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The National Guard and FEMA are now having to be deployed to deal with the Flint, MI water crisis. Good job irreversibly poisoning children all over a city just to save a few bucks, Snyder. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/13/u...WT.nav=top-news
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Jan 13, 2016 06:24
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foobardog posted:It's usually OK when it comes to adult children, one of the Romney sons made the circuit in favor of his father, and it was actually a minor brouhaha over the straight Cheney daughter talking poo poo about the lesbian Cheney daughter as they both tried to support their father. Oh, I have no doubt that it's okay in politics to do so, just that it's weird to me as a person because I'm generally not scummy as a matter of course. A normal human being may want to shield their family from becoming political targets, but I am aware of the fact that most politicians (and even more so those running for president) tend not to be normal human beings.
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Jan 13, 2016 06:33
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FlamingLiberal posted:The National Guard and FEMA are now having to be deployed to deal with the Flint, MI water crisis. Good job irreversibly poisoning children all over a city just to save a few bucks, Snyder. Also note it will cost a shitload to clean up. Just like these 'cost cutting' measures always do.
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Jan 13, 2016 06:35
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Lotka Volterra posted:Oh, I have no doubt that it's okay in politics to do so, just that it's weird to me as a person because I'm generally not scummy as a matter of course. A normal human being may want to shield their family from becoming political targets, but I am aware of the fact that most politicians (and even more so those running for president) tend not to be normal human beings. It's only slightly ironic when people say anyone who wants power shouldn't have it. How to Fight Presidents is a whole pop history book on how bizarre all of the Presidents have been as people.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Another reminder of just how much being President physically kicks the poo poo out of you: I turned to my father after the midterm elections and said the same thing. President Obama is going greyer faster than a city covered in ash. Rick_Hunter fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Jan 13, 2016 |
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Night10194 posted:Also note it will cost a shitload to clean up. Just like these 'cost cutting' measures always do. loving Michigan in a nutshell. "We don't have the money to do it right the first time, but we always have the money to do it over." gently caress Michigan, the feeling's forever.
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foobardog posted:It's only slightly ironic when people say anyone who wants power shouldn't have it. How to Fight Presidents is a whole pop history book on how bizarre all of the Presidents have been as people. Same reason I enjoy it every time Joe posts that Mo Udall quote. I'll have to check out that book, though, thanks for turning me on to it.
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foobardog posted:It's only slightly ironic when people say anyone who wants power shouldn't have it. How to Fight Presidents is a whole pop history book on how bizarre all of the Presidents have been as people. Please tell me this book focuses on how to actually engage each president in hand to hand combat.
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Jan 13, 2016 06:52
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Venom Snake posted:Insert post about Bernie running a positive campaign yet internet supporters being aggressive trash monsters here This is the post where I use the meme "this but unironically" to humorous effect.
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Jan 13, 2016 06:55
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Night10194 posted:Also note it will cost a shitload to clean up. Just like these 'cost cutting' measures always do. Not counting all the people who got lead poisoning in 20 loving 15.
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Jan 13, 2016 06:56
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DemeaninDemon posted:Not counting all the people who got lead poisoning in 20 loving 15. While the state continued to insist 'Oh no! Totally no lead in the water!' for loving months. Snyder should be in prison. I hate my governor. We tried to repeal that lovely Emergency Manager law, and what'd they do? Ignore us.
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Rick_Hunter posted:I turned to my father after the midterm elections and said the same thing. President Obama is going greyer faster than a city covered in ash. Looks like normal 8 years of aging to me. He looks like a healthy 54 year old. If anything that earlier lower quality picture of him made him look younger than he actually was.
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Well here is at least some good news. From Louisiana. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/13/u...&pgtype=article Finally, an expansion of Medicaid.
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