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Foolster41
Aug 2, 2013

"It's a non-speaking role"

kingcom posted:

Isn't that just the Most Wanted?


Well, it doesn't come with dice, range markers, movement markers or enough tokens, so you still need a core set to play.

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KongGeorgeVII
Feb 17, 2009

Flow like a
harpoon
daily and nightly.
This is way too many points in an agility 1 ship but it would be so much fun to fly I think I'll do it anyway.

Zuckuss (28)
Veteran Instincts (1)
4-LOM (1)
Advanced Sensors (3)
Cloaking Device (2)
Tractor Beam (1)
Mist Hunter (0)
Engine Upgrade (4)

Total: 40

Decloaking to the side followed by an AdvS barrel roll let's you effectively do a 4 speed barrel roll with twice the normal forward or backward translation all pre manoeuvre.

You should be extremely unpredictable and can attack from a ton of weird vectors which should cause your opponent headaches. Another option is to decloak forward, AdvS barrel roll and then 4 k-turn.

If you are on the edge of range 3 you should be able to get behind your opponent in the first engagement because it is effectively a 7.5 speed k-turn (.5 from barrel rolling forward).

I've made a diagram using vassal of just a couple of places you can end up, it is of course mirrored on the other side too. The X-Wing moves as slow as possible to try to keep its arc as wide as it can. If they called the right direction for your decloak and did a 1 bank towards you, then there is always the option of barrel rolling or boosting in the opposite direction to bug out. I doubt they will pull a k-turn going into the joust though so your own k-turn should be fairly safe for you. Please excuse the Starviper art, there are no art assets for the Mist Hunter yet in vassal.



The barrel roll before the k-turn is only necessary if the enemy is moving after you and that should be rare at PS9 so you could actually take a focus or target lock instead. You could also boost forward or left instead of rolling depending on where the rocks are. You have so many options your opponent will have to be psychic.

You use your tractor beam and 4-LOM only when it's going to make a big difference, say you have arc on soontir and you can make him drive through a rock next turn or it is going to set up a kill shot from someone else etc.

Just thought of this too for more flexibility and being able to hand off that stress at the end of the turn:

4-LOM (27)
Stay On Target (2)
Zuckuss (1)
Advanced Sensors (3)
Cloaking Device (2)
Tractor Beam (1)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Mist Hunter (0)

Total: 40

All the same movement shenanigans except you can change your maneuver to get into range one, get a stress and then hand it off at the end of the turn. Helps if you need to abort because the enemy predicted your move too. Unfortunately you lose the PS advantage which kind of negates stay on targets viability. Still could be fun to test.

KongGeorgeVII fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Jan 13, 2016

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
e: ^^^^^^^^^ goddamn

:lol:

Here, I made you nerds a classically styled report on the metagame

(instructions to make your own through the link)

General Battuta fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Jan 13, 2016

Foolster41
Aug 2, 2013

"It's a non-speaking role"
Oh, this is a better intro scroll creator than on starwars.com, the music doesn't cut out suddenly.

Edit: Also, that was a good intro scroll.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

General Battuta posted:

:lol:

Here, I made you nerds a classically styled report on the metagame

(instructions to make your own through the link)

This is awesome and it kept me waiting for a badly superimposed M3A on a translucent peg to fly past the Death Star 2.

kingcom
Jun 23, 2012

Foolster41 posted:

Oh, this is a better intro scroll creator than on starwars.com, the music doesn't cut out suddenly.

Edit: Also, that was a good intro scroll.

God that was the most infuriating thing when I found that. I just wanted to make an intro my rpg campaign and ended up having to make my own.


General Battuta posted:

Here, I made you nerds a classically styled report on the metagame

This is both good and accurate.

kingcom fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Jan 13, 2016

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

kingcom posted:

God that was the most infuriating thing when I found that. I just wanted to make an intro my rpg campaign and ended up having to make my own.


This is both good and accurate.

Get the Mac only one off softpedia :) I've never seen a better one. I run it in a Mac VM.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Ten Numb + Calculation + Tractor Beam

Uh oh...

Chemmy
Feb 4, 2001

That's a shitload of points to not do any damage.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Chemmy posted:

That's a shitload of points to not do any damage.

Pair him with some heavy-hitters or a miniswarm and you've got a Tractor Beam that (if you roll at least one crit or focus) will always hit, allowing you to drag high-PS aces into your other arcs with an agility penalty.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Ten Numb (31)
Calculation (1)
Advanced Sensors (3)
Tractor Beam (1)

Wes Janson (29)
Wired (1)
R3-A2 (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Wedge Antilles (29)
Adaptability (-1) (0)
BB-8 (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Total: 99

:shrug:

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

Endman posted:

Ten Numb (31)
Calculation (1)
Advanced Sensors (3)
Tractor Beam (1)

Wes Janson (29)
Wired (1)
R3-A2 (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Wedge Antilles (29)
Adaptability (-1) (0)
BB-8 (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Total: 99

:shrug:

This, right fuckin' here, is why Adaptability exists.

kingcom
Jun 23, 2012

Soo a bunch of KOTOR ships showed up in a trailer for the next episode of Rebels. Fingers crossed this means we see Old Republic/Sith Empire ships showing up in x-wing/Armada

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

I think I'd rather put Adaptability on Wes in order to save a point over VI.

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD

kingcom posted:

Soo a bunch of KOTOR ships showed up in a trailer for the next episode of Rebels. Fingers crossed this means we see Old Republic/Sith Empire ships showing up in x-wing/Armada

It's one thing to have 50 year old Y-Wings flying against TIE/fos, but KOTOR era ships are four thousand years old.

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


Well, I requested a replacement Royal Guard TIE title from FFG.

...they sent me 4 Royal Guard Pilots.

overdesigned
Apr 10, 2003

We are compassion...
Lipstick Apathy
So close, and yet so far...

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Poopy Palpy posted:

It's one thing to have 50 year old Y-Wings flying against TIE/fos, but KOTOR era ships are four thousand years old.

That's nothing; if you play Space Marines in 40k, you have to come to terms with your tanks often being over ten thousand years old.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





A....valid use for Decoy? At long last?

Ten Numb (31)
Calculation (1)
Advanced Sensors (3)
Tractor Beam (1)

Wedge Antilles (29)
Decoy (2)
R2 Astromech (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)
Cluster Missiles (4)

Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)
Cluster Missiles (4)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

Sushi in Yiddish
Feb 2, 2008

kingcom posted:

Soo a bunch of KOTOR ships showed up in a trailer for the next episode of Rebels. Fingers crossed this means we see Old Republic/Sith Empire ships showing up in x-wing/Armada

I'd be down to see TOR ships show up in XWING



Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
The top one is okay, but the bottom one is loving ugly.

That aside, I'm reasonably sure that there's not going to be anything older than is already in the game.

Ojetor
Aug 4, 2010

Return of the Sensei

It looks like the Lambda and a B-Wing had a baby.

Numismancer
Sep 15, 2004

by sebmojo
What are the currently most competitive two-ship lists? I know from some research that two-ship isn't common beyond brobots, and that the game is currently VSP vs 3-4 ship rebel stresshogs, but I WANT TO BELIEVE in :effort:

I haven't played since wave two, and would like to dip my toe back into wangs without suffering a total mental breakdown from my old TIE swarms (it'll be easier to learn all the new fiddly widgets and mechanics if I'm only touching two dials a round)

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Numismancer posted:

What are the currently most competitive two-ship lists? I know from some research that two-ship isn't common beyond brobots, and that the game is currently VSP vs 3-4 ship rebel stresshogs, but I WANT TO BELIEVE in :effort:

I haven't played since wave two, and would like to dip my toe back into wangs without suffering a total mental breakdown from my old TIE swarms (it'll be easier to learn all the new fiddly widgets and mechanics if I'm only touching two dials a round)

Han + Escort is still reasonably strong.

Decimator + Whisper made it to top 8 at Worlds this year, although I'm still not 100% convinced it wasn't a fluke.

Brobots are probably the best two-ship builds though.

Numismancer
Sep 15, 2004

by sebmojo

ConfusedUs posted:

Han + Escort is still reasonably strong.

Decimator + Whisper made it to top 8 at Worlds this year, although I'm still not 100% convinced it wasn't a fluke.

Brobots are probably the best two-ship builds though.

Thanks - I have Han, no Decimator yet. Is there a consensus on the better escorts for Han?

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Numismancer posted:

Thanks - I have Han, no Decimator yet. Is there a consensus on the better escorts for Han?

Poe (T70 Xwing) is good, Corran (EWing) is good, 3 Z-95s are good...really just pick something that you like.


If you want to be competitive in a tournament sense you probably won't be flying a two-ship list, but if you just wanna have fun? Play whatever.

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


"does anyone want to sell me a stack of the binder pages out of their 100 box? They're sold out"

"lol just buy the 9 pocket ultra pro binder. nevermind that it's not expandable, costs a ton more per page, and holds only just above half as many cards. durr"

loving hate the facebook groups for this game

Chemmy
Feb 4, 2001

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
Mist Hunter can't come out soon enough. Do we have any idea when it will be "off the boat"?

EDIT: Crew Zuckuss seems like he'd be amazing on something with a turret and a decent set of whites.

hooman fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Jan 13, 2016

Chemmy
Feb 4, 2001

My FLGS says 1/31. I'd guess somewhere around there.

kingcom
Jun 23, 2012

Poopy Palpy posted:

It's one thing to have 50 year old Y-Wings flying against TIE/fos, but KOTOR era ships are four thousand years old.

She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid. I've made a lot of special modifications myself.

KongGeorgeVII
Feb 17, 2009

Flow like a
harpoon
daily and nightly.

hooman posted:

Mist Hunter can't come out soon enough. Do we have any idea when it will be "off the boat"?

EDIT: Crew Zuckuss seems like he'd be amazing on something with a turret and a decent set of whites.

Everyone seems to be in love with all the upgrade cards but I can't wait to actually fly the ship itself. I reckon it could pair really nicely with Dengar depending on what the Jumpmaster dial looks like.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

KongGeorgeVII posted:

Everyone seems to be in love with all the upgrade cards but I can't wait to actually fly the ship itself. I reckon it could pair really nicely with Dengar depending on what the Jumpmaster dial looks like.

Yeah I really really want it to be able to fly a scum 3 1 4 4.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!

KongGeorgeVII posted:

Everyone seems to be in love with all the upgrade cards but I can't wait to actually fly the ship itself. I reckon it could pair really nicely with Dengar depending on what the Jumpmaster dial looks like.

I pre-ordered 2 Mist Hunters because I wanted to fly Zuckass alongside 4-LOM, I didn't even care what the upgrades were at the time. I just want to try an epic game with all the bounty hunters (but first I have to play an epic game, which no one rightfully does).

admanb
Jun 18, 2014

Numismancer posted:

What are the currently most competitive two-ship lists? I know from some research that two-ship isn't common beyond brobots, and that the game is currently VSP vs 3-4 ship rebel stresshogs, but I WANT TO BELIEVE in :effort:

I haven't played since wave two, and would like to dip my toe back into wangs without suffering a total mental breakdown from my old TIE swarms (it'll be easier to learn all the new fiddly widgets and mechanics if I'm only touching two dials a round)

In addition to the above, Dash + Corran or Poe is very good.

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT
So I found a local store (The Gaming Goat in Joliet, IL) that has a chill owner. I picked up another core set, this time the old trilogy one, and a TIE Phantom and a soon-to-be-coming B-Wing for 50 flat. I was going to go home after picking it up but there was a guy there that was interested in it. I haven't officially played yet but we did just a basic match with no skill cards and uses nameless pilots. We had a blast! The owner had a TFA core set and another fighter, and the guy I played was most likely going to nab those. It's very real I could start a gathering there to play games and have tourneys. Is there anything I should be wary about if I get more involved? Also, was 50 a good deal for a core set and two fighters?

kingcom
Jun 23, 2012

Ringo Star Get posted:

So I found a local store (The Gaming Goat in Joliet, IL) that has a chill owner. I picked up another core set, this time the old trilogy one, and a TIE Phantom and a soon-to-be-coming B-Wing for 50 flat. I was going to go home after picking it up but there was a guy there that was interested in it. I haven't officially played yet but we did just a basic match with no skill cards and uses nameless pilots. We had a blast! The owner had a TFA core set and another fighter, and the guy I played was most likely going to nab those. It's very real I could start a gathering there to play games and have tourneys. Is there anything I should be wary about if I get more involved? Also, was 50 a good deal for a core set and two fighters?

You should be worried about buying all the x-wings and I dont know about currency conversions but that seems like a solid deal just checking online, would normally be about 35 + 15 +15?

Make sure unless its a tournament (even then unless its official who cares) or something that everyone is always cool with using proxies of cards. It makes getting into the game and trying stuff out to see if you should buy something a really good idea.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Foolster41 posted:

Well, it doesn't come with dice, range markers, movement markers or enough tokens, so you still need a core set to play.

I don't see there ever being a proper "scum starter," where you take on the thrilling role of "some guy who flies for Jabba the Hutt and appeared as a minor character in a novel in the 90's" against "two guys who fly for that date rape lizard acrylic press on nail gangster from the N64 game" in "spacefighters you've probably never seen or heard of." :shrug:

Not really the marquee introductory product with big-box retailer shelf appeal that the other two are.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
When they make the Dengar and Bossk movie, which will just be a rip off of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, there'll be one.

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Foolster41
Aug 2, 2013

"It's a non-speaking role"

Otisburg posted:

I don't see there ever being a proper "scum starter," where you take on the thrilling role of "some guy who flies for Jabba the Hutt and appeared as a minor character in a novel in the 90's" against "two guys who fly for that date rape lizard acrylic press on nail gangster from the N64 game" in "spacefighters you've probably never seen or heard of." :shrug:

Not really the marquee introductory product with big-box retailer shelf appeal that the other two are.

I agree, also there should be two factions in a starter really, and rebel vs. imp makes sense, but who do you put against scum? They are a little bit of a third wheel in this respect,. (a cool third wheel, but still)

...

I got excited and already bought 1,000 points of ships for the fleet for the empire for this galactic campaign i'm running. (That can buy you a lot of ships!).
I'm sitting in the center of the galaxy, ready to get squashed.

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