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Cicero posted:Speaking of N64 VC, was planning on getting Paper Mario for my nephews on Wii U, is that a bad idea? It's an excellent game and looks great on the VC and you can play it in bed with the gamepad. Go for it!
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Color Printer posted:That is the complete opposite of a bad idea This is the complete non-opposite of a good opinion.
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Jan 12, 2016 17:52
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Cicero posted:Speaking of N64 VC, was planning on getting Paper Mario for my nephews on Wii U, is that a bad idea? Its a really fantastic RPG and also very kid friendly, so yeah as others have said you should do exactly that. Its too bad Paper Mario turned into a weird platformer-esque thing on the Wii; Mario RPG, Paper Mario, and Thousand-Year Door are all fantastic RPGs.
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Jan 12, 2016 17:57
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Zaphod42 posted:Its a really fantastic RPG and also very kid friendly, so yeah as others have said you should do exactly that. Thankfully Mario & Luigi carried on the torch, Superstar Saga and Bowser's Inside Story at least (I like Dream Team too actually)
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Jan 12, 2016 18:04
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Paper Jam comes out next week in NA too!
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Jan 12, 2016 18:12
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Cicero posted:Speaking of N64 VC, was planning on getting Paper Mario for my nephews on Wii U, is that a bad idea? The action command is a little more difficult due to input lag but it's consistent, so if you have it memorized you kinda have to relearn it. It's a great RPG for anyone, especially kids, lots of reading and humor.
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Jan 12, 2016 18:12
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Color Printer posted:That is the complete opposite of a bad idea Thanks guys! Looks like I'll be picking it up. greatn posted:The action command is a little more difficult due to input lag but it's consistent, so if you have it memorized you kinda have to relearn it. It's a great RPG for anyone, especially kids, lots of reading and humor. Cicero fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jan 12, 2016 |
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Jan 12, 2016 18:13
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Cicero posted:I know it's a good game but people were saying that N64 emulation sucks. To clarify, N64 emulation that isn't officially sanctioned by Nintendo (such as PC emulators or homebrew ones) is generally terrible. N64 on VC is probably the closest you're going to get to the real thing and it generally works just fine, outside of some weird edge cases, such as some glitches that would cause buffer overflows in OoT for N64 being possible on VC because the Wii/Wii U has more memory. I'm inclined to say input lag is more on the TV than the actual emulation, because I don't really get much when I'm playing on strictly the gamepad. If there is any, I hardly notice it when I do play on my actual display, but then again, I play on a PC monitor and not a TV, so that might help things in my case.
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Cicero posted:Speaking of N64 VC, was planning on getting Paper Mario for my nephews on Wii U, is that a bad idea? I borrowed an N64 from my friend once in elementary school with a bunch of games. I didnt give a rats rear end about OOT or Mario 64 and played through all of Paper Mario instead. Its a good game.
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Jan 12, 2016 18:33
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Zaphod42 posted:Its a really fantastic RPG and also very kid friendly, so yeah as others have said you should do exactly that. Super Paper Mario is honestly a pretty good game, if you go in expecting something completely different from TTYD
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Jan 12, 2016 18:35
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Austrian mook posted:Super Paper Mario is honestly a pretty good game, if you go in expecting something completely different from TTYD Yeah its not bad and its very novel and does lots of unique things no other game does, but paper mario is so great its sad they had to kinda twist the series. Why not just make a new mario game for that sort of thing? Ah, because the name 'paper mario' just fit too well  Pablo Gigante posted:Thankfully Mario & Luigi carried on the torch, Superstar Saga and Bowser's Inside Story at least (I like Dream Team too actually) I don't like those ones half as much as Mario RPG, Paper Mario or Thousand-year door though  They're not bad but they just don't quite capture me the same.
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ChaosArgate posted:To clarify, N64 emulation that isn't officially sanctioned by Nintendo (such as PC emulators or homebrew ones) is generally terrible. N64 on VC is probably the closest you're going to get to the real thing and it generally works just fine, outside of some weird edge cases, such as some glitches that would cause buffer overflows in OoT for N64 being possible on VC because the Wii/Wii U has more memory. Is Sin and Punishment 64 supposed to be as dark as it is on VC? It's the only N64 game I have on VC and it's great (if ludicrously hard) but everything looks like it's illuminated by candlelight.
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Jan 12, 2016 19:29
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Most if not all N64 VC titles on the U are really dark for some reason. I don't think that counts as accurate emulation, Ninty.
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Saoshyant posted:Most if not all N64 VC titles on the U are really dark for some reason. I don't think that counts as accurate emulation, Ninty. It's really weird, if you look at the suspend save screenshot in the menu, you can kind of see that the screenshot is a lot brighter and less washed out, so I have to assume they're applying a filter to the N64 emulation the same way they do to the NES VC games to make it more true to the CRT experience I guess?  I don't think they do it with SNES or GBA games, so I legit have no clue why they bothered for N64.
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Saoshyant posted:Most if not all N64 VC titles on the U are really dark for some reason. I don't think that counts as accurate emulation, Ninty. Emulating Majoras Mask on Wii made one super dark room basically impossible. I had to look up a map to see where to go because the game was pitch black.
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Jan 12, 2016 20:19
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ChaosArgate posted:It's really weird, if you look at the suspend save screenshot in the menu, you can kind of see that the screenshot is a lot brighter and less washed out, so I have to assume they're applying a filter to the N64 emulation the same way they do to the NES VC games to make it more true to the CRT experience I guess? They do it for SNES games too but it's much slighter and looks a lot more accurate, it's weird. The only SNES game I have where I can clearly tell it on is Kirby Super Star. GBA and DS games have no filter, because I guess they were on a handeld? Except that a lot of GBA games are super bright to compensate for the poo poo screen of the original GBA so they could actually use that darkening. The Virtual Console makes no sense.
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Jan 12, 2016 20:47
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GBA/DS (and Game Gear on 3DS) emulation is by M2, the best retro preservation devs in the business. The other platforms are done internally and are not nearly as good. The N64 filter is speculated to be a catch-all "fix" for potential epilepsy triggers. There are lots of weird goofy anomalies with N64 on Wii U.
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Jan 12, 2016 23:59
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One weird thing is apparently Paper Mario doesn't lag on WiiU VC, and Donkey Kong 64 somehow runs faster.
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Jan 13, 2016 00:02
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M2 is god not only for their emu work but for the entire 3D Classics run. I always hoped they'd get around to another pack of those, preferably hitting Shining Force or at least a GBA port of the remake.
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They just put out a second physical compilation of 3D Classics in Japan and in all the press leading up to the release they've sounded very confident about being able to do a third compilation at the very least, as opposed to every other time where they've been like "okay, we're done now, honest". Then again, that doesn't mean much for the rest of the world.
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In regards to VC, I've noticed substantial differences between running the same games on HD and 480p old-fashioned televisions. Brightness, screen orientation, sprite dithering, that kind of thing. I've seen a fair few games that flatly look better in standard resolution.MinibarMatchman posted:M2 is god not only for their emu work but for the entire 3D Classics run. I always hoped they'd get around to another pack of those, preferably hitting Shining Force or at least a GBA port of the remake. PaletteSwappedNinja posted:They just put out a second physical compilation of 3D Classics in Japan and in all the press leading up to the release they've sounded very confident about being able to do a third compilation at the very least, as opposed to every other time where they've been like "okay, we're done now, honest". Bleh. They mentioned doing Toe Jam & Earl, my favourite game ever, on 3D Classics and I really want to see it. It's never been done in portable form (to my knowledge).
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:GBA/DS (and Game Gear on 3DS) emulation is by M2, the best retro preservation devs in the business. The other platforms are done internally and are not nearly as good. To be fair, Sin and Punishment definitely needs that because there is a lot of flashing stuff.
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JustJeff88 posted:In regards to VC, I've noticed substantial differences between running the same games on HD and 480p old-fashioned televisions. Brightness, screen orientation, sprite dithering, that kind of thing. I've seen a fair few games that flatly look better in standard resolution. I would pay full retail price for 3D Toejam & Earl
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Color Printer posted:Donkey Kong 64 somehow runs faster. This apparently screws up the timings for a few things that relied on the N64 not being beefy enough to handle certain things smoothly! DK64 is a bad game in general, but avoid the Wii U release!
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ChaosArgate posted:This apparently screws up the timings for a few things that relied on the N64 not being beefy enough to handle certain things smoothly! DK64 is a bad game in general, but avoid the Wii U release! Oh my god I have to look that up. That's even better. 
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ChaosArgate posted:This apparently screws up the timings for a few things that relied on the N64 not being beefy enough to handle certain things smoothly! DK64 is a bad game in general, but avoid the Wii U release! the dark filter also makes that level pretty much impossible to navigate so it's a real shitshow all around
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New Mario & DK eShop game was announced for 3DS/Wii U: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/wiiu/ap5j/index.html Mini Mario & Friends: Amiibo Challenge, launches as part of a Japanese amiibo campaign from January 28. New amiibo will come with a free download code for both versions of the game; it doesn't seem like it'll be avaialble as a standalone download right away, and it requires at least one amiibo to play. There are "over 60 stages"; each character has a unique ability, and the standard stages contain character-specific exits that unlock new character-specific stages. (If you tap a non-Mario amiibo you play as a generic block character called "Mini-Spec".) Beyond that, it's pretty much just Tipping Stars Again. Compatible amiibo: Mario - wall-kick Luigi - high-jump Peach - SMB2-style float jump Bowser - does a SMB3-style ground smash when stepping off a ledge Toad - can crouch to squeeze through small gaps Yoshi - swallows certain enemies DK - can walk up steep slopes Diddy - ledge-grab Rosalina - does a super-high vertical jump next to walls? Bowser Jr. - hovers over spikes in the clown car PaletteSwappedNinja fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Jan 13, 2016 |
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Jan 13, 2016 04:36
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Lack of Wario support is confusing, its just another Lemmings-lite game isn't it? Well, free is nice I guess and I can't imagine its tough to churn these things out considering the graphical assets are most likely the same as the ones from Tipping Stars, but still THIS was the free-to-play amiibo centric game we've been hearing about? Beats another F2P Pokemon game but there's really no need for another drat Mario Vs DK since the last one didn't even come out a full year ago.
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Jan 13, 2016 05:20
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Donkey Kong '94 and Mario vs Donkey Kong are two of my favorite puzzle games ever, but the Lemmings style of the recent games just fails to grab me. I'd be way more interested in taking the game back to its roots and dropping Amiibos into that.
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Saoshyant posted:Oh, bloody hell, aren't those two supposed to be the same? Why make it confusing by making them separate to the point you'll need to link them? Probably because the NNID infrastructure is already set up with the Wii U and 3DS. Presumably the NX will be Nintendo Account only
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Jan 13, 2016 08:06
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I wonder if the dark thing in N64 VC has anything do with the original console not outputting a proper RGB signal, from what I can remember it only did composite and s-video.
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WE'RE GETTING ZERO MISSION FINALLY http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/metroid-zero-mission-wii-u nintendo reads my posts and only mine
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Quest For Glory II posted:WE'RE GETTING ZERO MISSION FINALLY Ugh, release GBA titles on 3DS already, Nintendo. 
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3DS isn't powerful enough... apparently.
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is this what we're going to do again we're going to argue about gba emulation on 3ds
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Jan 13, 2016 18:58
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3DS wouldn't emulate GBA games at an acceptable level for Nintendo. Even the ambassador games are spotty. New 3DS probably could do it just fine, but I doubt Nintendo would want to segregate e-shops for that.
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Anyone seen anything about the service that's supposed to replace Club Nintendo?
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I'm playing Zero Mission on my 3DS right now
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Monkey Fracas posted:Anyone seen anything about the service that's supposed to replace Club Nintendo? Nintendo Account has been live in Japan for a little bit now. So far it doesn't do a whole lot, but you can get digital discounts on your birthday
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jivjov posted:Nintendo Account has been live in Japan for a little bit now. So far it doesn't do a whole lot, but you can get digital discounts on your birthday My birthday was Monday this information does nothing for me
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