Chill la Chill posted:

I just want to not have to hear them being obnoxious when they can take that poo poo home so I can play a lovely game of X wing and make pew pew laser noises.

alansmithee posted:

And as for dudes who are talking about selling their stuff and getting out of the game because it sucks now or whatever, I would seriously reconsider at least the "sell everything but X" part. I've gotten out of the game twice before because I thought it sucked or was dying or whatever, and ended up regretting my decision each time as the game's just gotten way more popular. That's obviously not guaranteed to keep happening of course, but unless you really need the cash/space it's seriously worth it holding on to what you have and just taking a break, or you'll come back and find out the duals you sold for $30 are now $200 and the blood moon's that were a couple bucks are sitting at $40 (for example).

Zoness posted:

Leave it to magic to take the fun out of playing with wangs.

PleasantDirge posted:

That is pretty sweet, where are you sneaking that in, storm?

Lets Pickle posted:

Can confirm this is true, I've sold my collection twice before: Once the spring after Worldwake and once last spring. Both times nearly every card I sold has gone way, way up in value.

JerryLee posted:

If the policy is so dumb and player-toxic that they hate to tell us about it and they would love to not enforce it in 90% of cases then maybe it shouldn't be the policy.

I know that they feel they need to protect themselves against counterfeits (using a reasonable-person definition of "counterfeit" here, not the one from Trick's rear end) but if they actually don't see Sharpie or crude inkjet proxies as a threat to their IP, then why not rewrite the policy to make it clear that using the latter in unsanctioned LGS tournaments is okay?

En Fuego posted:

The next Chuck Palahnuik book will be Fight Club for unsanctioned proxy MTG tournaments.

I am Jack's Raging River.

Zoness posted:

look man someone's gonna make a perfect counterfeit using sharpies and there goes that idea

stinkles1112 posted:

Something tells me that if you sit around your LGS playtesting with proxies, WotC isn't gonna come kick the door in and strip away all their privileges. The dude who said "just stop pressing the issue" is pretty right on.

Barry Shitpeas posted:

But are they legal in Momir Basic

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

If they're going to regulate what stores can and can't do on their own time and hold their wpn status over their head while doing so, they might as well tell them not to allow any games besides magic, too. Both detract from legitimate magic play.

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

If they're going to regulate what stores can and can't do on their own time and hold their wpn status over their head while doing so, they might as well tell them not to allow any games besides magic, too. Both detract from legitimate magic play.

Sickening posted:

A basic land would imply you could have more than 4, this isn't the case with wastes right?

Comp Rules posted:

205.4c Any land with the supertype “basic” is a basic land.

100.2a In constructed play (a way of playing in which each player creates his or her own deck ahead of time), each deck must contain at least sixty cards. A constructed deck may contain any number of basic land cards and no more than four of any card with a particular English name other than basic land cards.

Telex posted:

high quality slippery slope, A+ effort for saying the dumbest possible thing in a sea of dumb.

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

Top level slippery slope is revoking dci membership for playing cube at home with proxies.

Telex posted:

high quality slippery slope, A+ effort for saying the dumbest possible thing in a sea of dumb.

Hellsau posted:

That slope isn't particularly slippery when WotC is sending out invoices to people who do draft on those online draft websites. $11.97 per draft, suckers!

Lancelot posted:

What? They are??

Hellsau posted:

sorry I was just quoting from Reddit from next week.

Entropic posted:

Is there any reason they couldn't errata Relentless Rats or Shadowborn Apostle to have a "Basic Creature -- " typeline?

I guess you could come up with convoluted scenarios where it would actually functionally change something, like if you cast Cytoshape on an animated man-land and made it a copy of Relentless Rats, it would no longer be targetable by Sowing Salt.

BizarroAzrael posted:

I think Reddit's broken, I keep making posts slagging off Cardboard Crack and they fall off the bottom of the thread. Bizarre.

BizarroAzrael posted:

I think Reddit's broken, I keep making posts slagging off Cardboard Crack and they fall off the bottom of the thread. Bizarre.

Entropic posted:

Is there any reason they couldn't errata Relentless Rats or Shadowborn Apostle to have a "Basic Creature -- " typeline?

I guess you could come up with convoluted scenarios where it would actually functionally change something, like if you cast Cytoshape on an animated man-land and made it a copy of Relentless Rats, it would no longer be targetable by Sowing Salt.

Zoness posted:

Apparently magic players, who are--according to Mark Rosewater--known for being unable to read cards, really like humor that derives from overly wordy explanations of mundane concepts.

cheetah7071 posted:

Hyperbole aside, I wouldn't be surprised if magiccards.info gets a takedown notice within the next six months, the way wizards has been behaving. Why should anyone look at images of magic cards anywhere but gatherer?

Zoness posted:

Apparently magic players, who are--according to Mark Rosewater--known for being unable to read cards, really like humor that derives from overly wordy explanations of mundane concepts.

JerryLee posted:

They don't have to be mutually exclusive. I enjoy overly wordy analysis of mundane concepts, yet am often unable to read posts

cheetah7071 posted:

The party line is that the phrase "basic" communicates meaning that they don't want to communicate about relentless rats, even if it's acceptable within the rules.

quote:

Good morning everyone,
We have been given an official clarification from Paul Hagan at WOTC on the proxies issue. Stores may not conduct events, sanctioned or otherwise, that permit the use of proxies. DSG completely supports this policy as necessary to protect the intellectual property rights of our industry partners.
However, stores are NOT required to police casual play by players. If players wish to play amongst one another in a tournament-like manner at the store, so long as the store has zero involvement (including no use of Event Reporter), this is not a violation.
This is a relief from the initial warning that was worded in such a way as to require stores to enforce a ban on proxy use on the premises altogether, which would have been a daunting task. And also would have made playtesting needlessly difficult for players committing no infringement at all (such as with a Mountain that has "Ugin" sharpied on it).
DSG already does not run proxy events, so with this clarification, our store policy is that no changes will occur.

Gyshall posted:

you're unable to make posts as well

e: good posts

Zoness posted:

Angry Grimace posted:

* Years after that, she's a Kozilek thrall and sees Gideon get killed by Kozilek. Also, Chandra is dead, Nissa's been reduced to a husk and Jace's illusions found some swords and stabbed him to death somehow. Kozilek is apparently a huge loving dick so he resurrects Gideon and kills him a few more times. This makes Kozilek happy in whatever way an eldritch abomination gets happy. A few millenia after that, Tazri is the only survivor of Zendikar and has sprouted Kozilek-like powers of creation, but she can't figure out how to recreate Zendikar and just sits around being totally insane by herself. Flash forward a few million years after that and she just sits around alone waiting for Kozilek to come back all sad.

Angry Grimace posted:

* Years after that, she's a Kozilek thrall and sees Gideon get killed by Kozilek. Also, Chandra is dead, Nissa's been reduced to a husk and Jace's illusions found some swords and stabbed him to death somehow. Kozilek is apparently a huge loving dick so he resurrects Gideon and kills him a few more times. This makes Kozilek happy in whatever way an eldritch abomination gets happy. A few millenia after that, Tazri is the only survivor of Zendikar and has sprouted Kozilek-like powers of creation, but she can't figure out how to recreate Zendikar and just sits around being totally insane by herself. Flash forward a few million years after that and she just sits around alone waiting for Kozilek to come back all sad.

JerryLee posted:

drat


What if a store holds an "Open Casual Play" event? It's an event, but it's casual play.

I guess the key distinction is that the store is involved. So now do we have stores trying to facilitate the ability for players to get together and run their own tournaments while maintaining plausible deniability as to whether the store is "involved"? This all seems unnecessarily dumb.