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Mayor McCheese
Sep 20, 2004

Everyone is a mayor... Someday..
Lipstick Apathy

I have used these guys here for a few years now (they accept Paypal):
http://jp-ecards.ocnk.net/

The average wait time varies -- sometimes I get it in like 5 minutes, other times it takes them a few hours.

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Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!

Mayor McCheese posted:

I have used these guys here for a few years now (they accept Paypal):
http://jp-ecards.ocnk.net/

The average wait time varies -- sometimes I get it in like 5 minutes, other times it takes them a few hours.

Also can vouch that this site has a good service as I have bought from them several times. Their markup is also pretty low compared to most other merchants.

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer

Sakurazuka posted:

Valkyrie Drive. Don't google it if you're at work. Unless you work in a porn shop, I guess.

My god, it's like it was made by someone that found Senran Kagura a little too subtle.

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



axleblaze posted:

My god, it's like it was made by someone that found Senran Kagura a little too subtle.

It's made by the guy who made Senran Kagura. So yes.

Apathetic Artist
Dec 23, 2010
Is there any reason not to buy the Persona 4 game that is on sale for PS3? I don't have a Vita to play the Golden version and seem to recall this version being the better one according to these forums. I'm probably wrong in stating that because I don't know much about these games except for the praise they get on these forums. Somebody tell me I'm dumb and why I need to buy it please.

My only experience with this series was with what I think is the first Shin Megami Tensei, but that was in the 90s and I hardly recall it.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Mayor McCheese posted:

I have used these guys here for a few years now (they accept Paypal):
http://jp-ecards.ocnk.net/

The average wait time varies -- sometimes I get it in like 5 minutes, other times it takes them a few hours.

Yeah, these guys are good too, bought a bunch from them in the past. I think Solaris is slightly cheaper but to be completely honest it's been months since I checked.

Nickoten
Oct 16, 2005

Now there'll be some quiet in this town.
If it's regular Persona 4, it's a great game and you won't regret playing it. I've never played Golden but I wasn't really dissatisfied with the game outside of a couple things that I doubt are changed in Golden.

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

Irsh posted:

Is there any reason not to buy the Persona 4 game that is on sale for PS3? I don't have a Vita to play the Golden version and seem to recall this version being the better one according to these forums. I'm probably wrong in stating that because I don't know much about these games except for the praise they get on these forums. Somebody tell me I'm dumb and why I need to buy it please.

My only experience with this series was with what I think is the first Shin Megami Tensei, but that was in the 90s and I hardly recall it.

golden is the better version

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

Golden's weird because it kind of already expects you to have played though Persona 4 already but not in any way to where I wouldn't call it the definite version but if you think you'd enjoy Persona 4 , getting the PS2 version isn't that bad at all.


Playing Persona 3 PSP without playing Persona FES is a unfortunate sin though

enojy
Sep 11, 2001

bass rattle
stars out
the sky

Irsh posted:

Is there any reason not to buy the Persona 4 game that is on sale for PS3? I don't have a Vita to play the Golden version and seem to recall this version being the better one according to these forums. I'm probably wrong in stating that because I don't know much about these games except for the praise they get on these forums. Somebody tell me I'm dumb and why I need to buy it please.

My only experience with this series was with what I think is the first Shin Megami Tensei, but that was in the 90s and I hardly recall it.

Absolutely get it, unless you hate RPGs. Golden is mainly better because it runs at a higher resolution on a smaller screen. The PS3 version on PSN is more than adequate.

Apathetic Artist
Dec 23, 2010
NINJA EDIT: ^^^ Thank you too. I very much enjoy RPGs and now have it bought!

Davincie posted:

golden is the better version

I'll never get to play it, so I will never know, but thanks for just pointing out it's better.

Nickoten posted:

If it's regular Persona 4, it's a great game and you won't regret playing it. I've never played Golden but I wasn't really dissatisfied with the game outside of a couple things that I doubt are changed in Golden.

Thanks for this! I was mostly worried that the first release was so fundamentally bad that it need a new version released with a massive overhaul to make it a good game.

Sinners Sandwich posted:

Golden's weird because it kind of already expects you to have played though Persona 4 already but not in any way to where I wouldn't call it the definite version but if you think you'd enjoy Persona 4 , getting the PS2 version isn't that bad at all.

And now it's purchased... Can't wait to finally find out why this series gets so much praise here!

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Golden's better because it was made after Atlus dropped skill-shuffling.

Nickoten
Oct 16, 2005

Now there'll be some quiet in this town.

Motto posted:

Golden's better because it was made after Atlus dropped skill-shuffling.

Well dealing with that stupid poo poo at least once is a rite of passage to SMT games anyway. :colbert:

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

np

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!

Golden also has the better Chie VA which is all the difference in the world imo.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
It does not have a better Chie VA, because Sarah Williams exists and she's the Chie we never got

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Because Erin Fitzgerald is bad

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

Irsh posted:

NINJA EDIT: ^^^ Thank you too. I very much enjoy RPGs and now have it bought!



And now it's purchased... Can't wait to finally find out why this series gets so much praise here!

Oh poo poo I forgot to mention the first 4 hours are boring

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


Yeah Persona 4 is an extremely slow starting game. It's not even a really extended tutorial, just a lot of story happens before you really get access to dungeons

barren_sky
May 6, 2004

rabidsquid posted:

Yeah Persona 4 is an extremely slow starting game. It's not even a really extended tutorial, just a lot of story happens before you really get access to dungeons

I'd say it's slow in general. P4 would have been twice as good if it were half the length.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




will p5 have unique dungeon designs? greatest rpg of all time shoe in if it does.

El Hefe
Oct 31, 2006

You coulda had a V8/
Instead of a tre-eight slug to yo' cranium/
I got six and I'm aimin' 'em/
Will I bust or keep you guessin'

Real hurthling! posted:

will p5 have unique dungeon designs? greatest rpg of all time shoe in if it does.

from the little we've seen in the trailer I say that they at least put more effort into them so they aren't so bland anymore

Nickoten
Oct 16, 2005

Now there'll be some quiet in this town.

rabidsquid posted:

Yeah Persona 4 is an extremely slow starting game. It's not even a really extended tutorial, just a lot of story happens before you really get access to dungeons

I think part of the problem is also that you're seeing a lot of heavy stuff about characters you haven't grown attached to. I know I for one was way more into what I was seeing about Kanji and Naoto than I was about Yusuke and Chie because the latter happened so early that it didn't carry so much dramatic weight for me. The social links for those characters had more impact because I saw the end of those much later in the game.

Compare this with Persona 3 where the opening of the game isn't about character so much as it is about the mechanics of the world you've been placed into and the protagonist himself. That's a much more riveting way to get the player invested because they haven't started to care about the cast just yet. While Persona 4's focus on character stuff was ultimately really satisfying for me, I definitely agree that its opening was a misstep.

For the guy who bought it, just know that you'll appreciate what you see in the opening later on in the game looking back. It's throwing a lot of character stuff at you that you'll retroactively find more interesting.

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



Baal posted:

Because Erin Fitzgerald is bad

She voices Noire in Nep and makes me hate Noire, so she's a good VA.

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

the story is the good part because the dungeon gameplay is actively awful

Justin_Brett
Oct 23, 2012

GAMERDOME put down LOSER

Takoluka posted:

She voices Noire in Nep and makes me hate Noire, so she's a good VA.

TOO SLOW :byodame:

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




So as someone who loves the Gran Turismo series, is Project CARS worth a shot or am I just gonna wind up going back and playing GT6?

the truth
Dec 16, 2007

I bought danganronpa games a while back based on recommendations from one of these threads. The first game is decent, but the second game just sucks. I can't get into it. It seems like a lovely/creepy fanfic.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

the truth posted:

I bought danganronpa games a while back based on recommendations from one of these threads. The first game is decent, but the second game just sucks. I can't get into it. It seems like a lovely/creepy fanfic.

I loved the first, but I don't think I made it past the first case in the second. I hated it too.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Davincie posted:

the story is the good part because the dungeon gameplay is actively awful

:same:

Maybe one day we'll get a Persona game without awful dungeon-crawling.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Catherine :v:

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

It had awful puzzle-platforming instead.

I mean, yes, technically that's not dungeon-crawling. :v:

Ruggington
Apr 21, 2012

Catherine was the hypest thing at evo

croutonZA
Jan 5, 2011

Ruggington posted:

Catherine was the hypest thing at evo

Strangely enough it was a lot of fun, even though when it started I thought they were being ironic. I'm still not entirely sure they weren't to be honest.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


croutonZA posted:

I'm still not entirely sure they weren't to be honest.

You must not have watched it, then, because everyone was having a good time and being competitive as gently caress about it.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Catherine's puzzle platforming is a ton of fun, eat my rear end

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Lightning Block Action is one of the best game's Atlus has made only met by DDS and SMTIV

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

barren_sky posted:

I'd say it's slow in general. P4 would have been twice as good if it were half the length.

I like long meandering games if they're done well, it's a rare tone to shoot for. It's why im currently really liking Trails in the Sky (approx. 9 hours in and there hasn't been a major development outside of one part early on where you drop your dad off at the airport).

Nickoten
Oct 16, 2005

Now there'll be some quiet in this town.
Persona 3 and 4 are two of the few games that I forgive for erring on the side of being very long due to their format. The mundanity of living in your character's shoes plays a big role in how you feel about the experience at the end, and the pace that accompanies something like this is communicated to the player fairly well at the beginning. I don't know that the ending of Persona 3 would have been as impactful if I hadn't spent so many days doing mundane stuff like folding origami cranes or studying in the library with my friends. "Twice as good if it were half the length" is a phrase I use all the time with stuff like Twilight Princess, where the adventure you're on definitely isn't supposed to feel mundane.

I do think the length would be unforgivable if stuff like that were not as important to what the game was trying to say, though. And I also think that being ~70-80 hours rather than 103-4 hours each (my totals on 3 and 4 respectively) would be preferable, as there's probably diminishing returns after a certain point.

Of course, the length of this stuff necessarily means that the "new" Persona games aren't for anyone; they're not about "adventure" in the same way that Final Fantasy or Zelda are about.

Nickoten fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Jan 14, 2016

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Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Baal posted:

Catherine's puzzle platforming is a ton of fun, eat my rear end

I just don't like puzzle-platforming, I don't have a problem with Catherine's specifically.

Nickoten posted:

Persona 3 and 4 are two of the few games that I forgive for erring on the side of being very long due to their format. The mundanity of living in your character's shoes plays a big role in how you feel about the experience at the end, and the pace that accompanies something like this is communicated to the player fairly well at the beginning. I don't know that the ending of Persona 3 would have been as impactful if I hadn't spent so many days doing mundane stuff like folding origami cranes or studying in the library with my friends.

I agree with this post.

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