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Detroit_Dogg
Feb 2, 2008
Aaron Rodgers is gay and lame and oh please cum in me Aaron PLEASE I NEED IT OH STAFFORD YOUR COCK IS NOT WORTHY ONLY THE GAYEST RODGERS PRICK CAN SATISFY MY DESPERATE THROAT

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vainman
Nov 2, 2012

I find your lack of faith... disturbing

BGrifter posted:

I get the skepticism of CM Punk but I'm pretty sure he could win a fight against the moldy bones of Bruce Lee. Hell I'd bet on him vs most corpses.

He would spend two years training and still not show up

manyak
Jan 26, 2006

Captain Log posted:

I don't think CM Punk could kick the dogshit out of Hong Man Jack in a street fight.

I dont know who that is but if he was some 70s kung fu guy then yes he could very easily

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!

manyak posted:

I dont know who that is but if he was some 70s kung fu guy then yes he could very easily

With a name like that I'm guessing porn star, but still probably the favourite going in.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

manyak posted:

I dont know who that is but if he was some 70s kung fu guy then yes he could very easily

Wong Jack Man did Tai Chi, Shaolin and something called Xin Yi Quan which is an energy based soft style so yeah he was probably fairly useless in an actual fight

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Golden Bee posted:

She's a Mary Sue because she's a new character who's better at everything (Fixing the Millennium falcon! Using force powers! Winning lightsaber duels! Flying spaceships! Infiltrating enemy bases!) than any of the previously established characters, and doesn't face a road of trials where she loses before getting better at things.

She fixed the Falcon because she was intimately familiar with the changes made to it because she worked for the guy who stole it (the big junk trader dude). She was intimately familiar with the territory on Jakku because she'd been scavenging from the crashed Star Destroyer, and the guys she was flying against were brand new to the planet and used to open space flight. She didn't infiltrate a single enemy base though she was attempting to escape one she was taken to. She failed several times in her attempt to use force powers on a single stormtrooper before finally getting it right. She won a lightsaber duel against a guy who been shot in the side and already had a strenuous fight with another character and was also feeling tormented/wracked with guilt over the horrible act he'd just committed a few minutes earlier (which is probably also why she was successfully able to force pull the lightsaber to her when he was going for it at the same time).

All these things are demonstrated in the movie through basic storytelling. If the movie has a flaw it's that it is such a straight rehash of New Hope (and many would say that is a strength) and doesn't really try anything new/innovative outside of having a female lead and a black male co-lead. Anakin in the dreadful first prequel was far more of a Mary Sue, Rey doesn't even come close.

Golden Bee posted:

On topic, CM Punk better do the GTS gesture after beating his first can.

Agreed.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Jerusalem posted:

She fixed the Falcon because she was intimately familiar with the changes made to it because she worked for the guy who stole it (the big junk trader dude). She was intimately familiar with the territory on Jakku because she'd been scavenging from the crashed Star Destroyer, and the guys she was flying against were brand new to the planet and used to open space flight. She didn't infiltrate a single enemy base though she was attempting to escape one she was taken to. She failed several times in her attempt to use force powers on a single stormtrooper before finally getting it right. She won a lightsaber duel against a guy who been shot in the side and already had a strenuous fight with another character and was also feeling tormented/wracked with guilt over the horrible act he'd just committed a few minutes earlier (which is probably also why she was successfully able to force pull the lightsaber to her when he was going for it at the same time).

All these things are demonstrated in the movie through basic storytelling. If the movie has a flaw it's that it is such a straight rehash of New Hope (and many would say that is a strength) and doesn't really try anything new/innovative outside of having a female lead and a black male co-lead. Anakin in the dreadful first prequel was far more of a Mary Sue, Rey doesn't even come close.

Honestly I feel like it was more pacing problems and what they apparently cut out of the movie that was the problem than how her character was written. She goes from thinking Jedi are a myth to being able to use complex force powers and holding her own with a guy trained in lightsaber dueling without ever having any training or knowledge of force powers at all. I can't help but feel like something got left out.

That said, Finn holding his own against a force capable lightsaber user was sillier and that one Poe guy was the closest thing to a Gary or Mary Sue in all of Star Wars history so she does tend to get an unfair amount of criticism considering. But Star Wars doesn't tend to get much deeper than pro wrestling does so it's a little silly to expect anything other than the pulpy hero stories it always was meant to be.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Aesop Poprock posted:

That said, Finn holding his own against a force capable lightsaber user was sillier and that one Poe guy was the closest thing to a Gary or Mary Sue in all of Star Wars history so she does tend to get an unfair amount of criticism considering. But Star Wars doesn't tend to get much deeper than pro wrestling does so it's a little silly to expect anything other than the pulpy hero stories it always was meant to be.

This is true, though Poe is helped by being enormously charismatic. I do cut it some slack since Luke basically makes a one-in-a-billion shot at the end of New Hope simply because he listens to Obi Wan and puts his trust in the Force.

Anyway, this is probably enough of a derail, and I blame CM Punk for not having had a fight yet. How dare he take his time and want to recover from injury :mad:

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

Aesop Poprock posted:

That said, Finn holding his own against a force capable lightsaber user was sillier and that one Poe guy was the closest thing to a Gary or Mary Sue in all of Star Wars history

The dude was shot with the giant Wookie gun they spent a few moments in the movie building up how much of a punch it had, and the prequels/video games almost mythologized the lightsaber in a way they didn't in the original movies. Kylo Ren was hosed up and Finn still barely survived and was barely a problem for Ren compared to how badly he was already bleeding. That poo poo was fine.

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

btw cm punk is cool and the best ever and i'm glad he's scamming ufc, what a worker

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Has ufc paid punk any money or does he have to actually do something first?

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

manyak posted:

Pro wrestling is more real than a lot of the fighting that Bruce lee did tbh

Well Hollywood Hulk Hogan did fight the Undertaker in Pride, brother, his shoot skills are legendary.

Bubba Smith
Sep 27, 2004

Is tonight the greatest moment in Dominick Cruz's life?

No.

The greatest moment in my life was realizing that I didn't need a belt to be happy.

oldpainless posted:

Has ufc paid punk any money or does he have to actually do something first?

has to do something first. but when he does do that something he will make a stupid amount of money

manyak
Jan 26, 2006

Big Coffin Hunter posted:

btw cm punk is cool and the best ever and i'm glad he's scamming ufc, what a worker

Hes not really scamming the ufc, he hasnt done anything yet but when he does hes going to make them a lot of money and publicity. He'll be scamming the people who pay money to watch him fight

henkman
Oct 8, 2008
Yeah how is he scamming the UFC

Sprecherscrow
Dec 20, 2009

Mr. Nice! posted:

Bruce lee was an actual fighter that trained a variety of martial arts his whole life.

CM Punk is a guy whose fighting career consists of fake fighting.

Bruce Lee was an actor who never competed in combat sports and whose supposed fights are all highly suspect just like everything his widow says about him.

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

Next you'll tell us training with Steven Segal isn't the best base for becoming a legend in this sport

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Sprecherscrow posted:

Bruce Lee was an actor who never competed in combat sports and whose supposed fights are all highly suspect just like everything his widow says about him.

His fight with that Wong guy sounded pretty funny from the few accounts there were though, basically the dude just ends up running away from Lee who awkwardly punches him in the back of the head and neck and injured his hand doing so until the other dude gave up

Detroit_Dogg
Feb 2, 2008
Aaron Rodgers is gay and lame and oh please cum in me Aaron PLEASE I NEED IT OH STAFFORD YOUR COCK IS NOT WORTHY ONLY THE GAYEST RODGERS PRICK CAN SATISFY MY DESPERATE THROAT

Bubba Smith posted:

has to do something first. but when he does do that something he will make a stupid amount of money

This is assuming he ever actually does anything

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

i thought he was getting paid to do those pre-show desk things or w/e, at least he ended up getting some poo poo from the video game

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Aesop Poprock posted:

His fight with that Wong guy sounded pretty funny from the few accounts there were though, basically the dude just ends up running away from Lee who awkwardly punches him in the back of the head and neck and injured his hand doing so until the other dude gave up

From what I recall, the handful of accounts are like
Lee's friends:
He hosed Wong up it was brutal he died and there was an earthquake with each punch that landed.
Wong:
Lee's dirty as gently caress
The probable most impartial dude:
Fight sucked for a good 25 minutes, everyone gave up because it sucked.

Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Jan 13, 2016

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011
Great thoughts on star wars fellas.

Anyways, Bruce Lee would have done great at point karate and fine at tkd, he would have been good but not great at modern no-clinch kickboxing, he would have struggled a lot with muay Thai, he self admittedly sucked poo poo at boxing and anything involving grappling. He didn't understand why boxers wouldn't engage in long series of blocks and parries and instead just kept punching him in the face

Lee made some interesting and poignant observations on combat sports which was cool, but he was never primarily a competitor

Dario the Wop
Oct 11, 2007

Hell-Sent, Heaven-Bent
https://twitter.com/MMAHistoryToday/status/687407111496675328

schweens
Jan 14, 2011

kakarot ain't got shit on me
https://twitter.com/schweens/status/687405263603822592

Its happening (maybe)

Lloyd Boner
Oct 11, 2009

Yes officer, my name is Victoria Sonnen...berg
Also Mickey Gall is apparently fighting Michael Jackson.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
Gall's the kid from 'Looking for a Fight' that called CM Punk out after knocking someone out, because he knew Dana was in the audience.

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

I'm pretty sure a 2006 Dan Quinn could beat CM Punk in a fight. Speak on it, Ken Shamrock.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!

Lloyd Boner posted:

Also Mickey Gall is apparently fighting Michael Jackson.

I want to see CM Punk fight the King of Pop.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005



Man Michael Landsberg got old quickly.

Muddy Burphy
Dec 4, 2010

The #RXT REVOLUTION has two words for ya..
SCOOP IT!

:frogc00l:

he knows...

BGrifter posted:

I want to see CM Punk fight the King of Pop.

I thought it was established in this very thread that CM Punk would defeat most corpses. (I'd guess via split decision)

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

What happens if Michael Jackson wins the fight? Does he fight CM Punk?

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
fuckin HATE landsburry

cams
Mar 28, 2003


Big Coffin Hunter posted:

btw cm punk is cool and the best ever and i'm glad he's scamming ufc, what a worker
he is so good at his job look how many people started talkin bout cm punk cause he's in a video game

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.

BGrifter posted:

I get the skepticism of CM Punk but I'm pretty sure he could win a fight against the moldy bones of Bruce Lee. Hell I'd bet on him vs most corpses.

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Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
CM Punk's wicked sick scam; give myself severe brain damage while making someone else a lot of money.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.
Pro Life-Hack: Slam our head in a vice repeatedly in front of millions of people while screaming your PIN number.

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

Mr. Nice! posted:

Bruce lee was an actual fighter that trained a variety of martial arts his whole life.

CM Punk is a guy whose fighting career consists of fake fighting.

Also Bruce Lee has an extra leg that was seldom talked about which he would apply his one inch punch with.

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

RZApublican posted:

I'm pretty sure a 2006 Dan Quinn could beat CM Punk in a fight. Speak on it, Ken Shamrock.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

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If this Mickey Gall guy beats CM Punk, he should go to WWE and become the Intercontinental champion!

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Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

Heavy Metal posted:

If this Mickey Gall guy beats CM Punk, he should go to WWE and become the Intercontinental champion!

If that's him in the above picture he's already halfway there by somehow looking like a sleazier Dean Ambrose.

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