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gohmak posted:One change I really don't like is turning Amos from the only Earther with the balls to get fall out drunk, gamble and gently caress hookers in a belter brothel into a captain save a male ho. I think they're hinting at Amos's upbringing by transferring a lot of stuff from later books forward. Perhaps some of the hanging-out-with-Fred stuff got shuffled to a later episode? Also I could watch Jared Harris as Dawes all day.
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Yeah, just because he doesn't dive in doesn't mean Amos doesn't get it. Again, I haven't read the books but I thought that was a strong character moment for someone who's been mostly a (deliberately) blank slate.
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OK so OPA is Outer Planets Alliance. What's MCRN actually stand for? Mars ??? ??? Navy. Really enjoying the show but feels like I missed an intro crawl or exposition somewhere for some of the terms.
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Martian Congressional RepublicChard posted:Yeah, just because he doesn't dive in doesn't mean Amos doesn't get it. Again, I haven't read the books but I thought that was a strong character moment for someone who's been mostly a (deliberately) blank slate. Pretty much my thoughts on it. If he'd actually been celebrating something, like a cash infusion to blow through, he'd probably be off doing that, but he's dealing with "emotions" at the moment. I like to think he stoked a brawl thirty seconds after the scene cut, instead. KatWithHands fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Jan 14, 2016 |
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VodeAndreas posted:OK so OPA is Outer Planets Alliance. Martian Colonial Republic Navy? (Just a guess)
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OPA should be Space Greeks whose entire economy is based on tzatziki, saganaki and moussaka. Perhaps they could even co-own a comedy club with the Space Mormons.
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Catzilla posted:Martian Colonial Republic Navy? (Just a guess) Close! It's Mars Congressional Republic Navy.
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VodeAndreas posted:OK so OPA is Outer Planets Alliance. MCRN Mars Congressional Republic Navy UN United Nations. Earth and Luna
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Jan 14, 2016 14:25
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Jan 14, 2016 17:27
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Eau de MacGowan posted:Are OPA a formal military or terrorists? Both, neither. The OPA has a lot of internal conflict and many different people who have differing ideas about how to achieve their ultimate political ends which is basically to end the exploitation of the belters by the inner planets and achieve political independence. There are radical segments of the OPA who are terrorists through and through and there are more moderate segments which form a quasi-government. At the moment they are not recognized as a formal government by either Mars or Earth who consider the stations in the belt and the colonies on the outer planets to belong to Earth and Mars based corporations.
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Eau de MacGowan posted:Are OPA a formal military or terrorists? Paramilitary
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Eau de MacGowan posted:Are OPA a formal military or terrorists?
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They're terrorists according to the UN an MCR. But start morphing into a quasi government with a formal military, although there are rogue elements of the group that do not agree with the direction mainstream process the organization begins to take.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:They're terrorists according to the UN an MCR. But start morphing into a quasi government with a formal military, although there are rogue elements of the group that do not agree with the direction mainstream process the organization begins to take. They're the IRA of a hundred years ago with Dawes serving as Eamon de Valera.
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Jan 14, 2016 18:16
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This show is still pretty cool. Are the books all done, or are we going to run into a Game of Thrones where the TV show takes over the books and the few people who can read get all tut tutt about it.
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Jan 14, 2016 19:15
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At this pace the show will never catch up with the books, it's moving too slowly and the authors bump those things out fast
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:They're the IRA of a hundred years ago with Dawes serving as Eamon de Valera. I was just about to post this.
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Philthy posted:This show is still pretty cool. Are the books all done, or are we going to run into a Game of Thrones where the TV show takes over the books and the few people who can read get all tut tutt about it. "Babylon's Ashes" is the sixth book, supposed to come out in June.
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Kesper North posted:It seems like the sort of thing Belters are raised from childhood to never, ever, ever do. Your blood doesn't boil in space due to tissue pressures and blood pressure in general. The whole 'blood boils in space' comes from some freshmen physics students doing calculations of blood by itself - the reality is more complicated. It just causes some inflammation to the skin from the exposure.
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Philthy posted:This show is still pretty cool. Are the books all done, or are we going to run into a Game of Thrones where the TV show takes over the books and the few people who can read get all tut tutt about it. Look at their consistency of book releases. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Expanse_(novel_series)#Works 1 Leviathan Wakes - June 15, 2011 2 Caliban's War- June 26, 2012 3 Abaddon's Gate - June 4, 2013 4 Cibola Burn - June 17, 2014 5 Nemesis Games - June 2, 2015 6 Babylon's Ashes - June 16, 2016
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Philthy posted:This show is still pretty cool. Are the books all done, or are we going to run into a Game of Thrones where the TV show takes over the books and the few people who can read get all tut tutt about it. They are going a lot slower than the books, so it seems like they have little chance of catching up. If they get cancelled before catching up, several of the books end without leaving too many loose ends hanging, so I feel like we're good either way.
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Goreld posted:Your blood doesn't boil in space due to tissue pressures and blood pressure in general. The whole 'blood boils in space' comes from some freshmen physics students doing calculations of blood by itself - the reality is more complicated. Okay, a little hyperbole. You're right in that it doesn't boil, per se - but gas bubbles do form in the bloodstream, leading rapidly to unconsciousness within fifteen seconds, as the bubbles cut off blood flow to the brain as they form. (Source: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/survival-in-space-unprotected-possible/) Incidentally, to get into a modern spacesuit requires the astronaut perform hours of decompression and recompression to avoid the bends, because they have use low air pressures to allow the suits to be flexible enough for work, a requirement that never shows up in science fiction because it would ruin virtually every plot that involves EVA. The Mark III prototype being tested by NASA supposedly doesn't require oxygen prebreathing, so hopefully this issue can be solved using current technology.
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swampface posted:They are going a lot slower than the books, so it seems like they have little chance of catching up. If they get cancelled before catching up, several of the books end without leaving too many loose ends hanging, so I feel like we're good either way. Book 3 would be a good place to finish at
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Kesper North posted:Okay, a little hyperbole. You're right in that it doesn't boil, per se - but gas bubbles do form in the bloodstream, leading rapidly to unconsciousness within fifteen seconds, as the bubbles cut off blood flow to the brain as they form. (Source: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/survival-in-space-unprotected-possible/) Yeah, though I give this show a pass since if they can have drugs that reduce the strain g forces have on the body they probably also have drugs that better filter nitrogen in the blood.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Yeah, though I give this show a pass since if they can have drugs that reduce the strain g forces have on the body they probably also have drugs that better filter nitrogen in the blood. I'll admit I didn't pay too close attention to the EVA suits, but did they have articulated joints? Because that would allow higher pressure suit environments. Gloves might be problematic.
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I thought the helmet scene was supposed to show that people who grew up in space can do poo poo regular humans can't
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Eau de MacGowan posted:Are OPA a formal military or terrorists? Basically Johnson's OPA are a bunch of belters who pooled resources and built Tycho Station, aka the biggest shipyard and trade hub in the belt. Between that and a bunch of loosely aligned belter trade unions and shipping companies, he has something that's almost a government. Most OPA 'members' though probably don't actually work for him or any of the OPA companies or unions. They just agree with his politics, get a tattoo or three and drink with other people who think the same.
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Strategic Tea posted:Basically Johnson's OPA are a bunch of belters who pooled resources and built Tycho Station, aka the biggest shipyard and trade hub in the belt. Between that and a bunch of loosely aligned belter trade unions and shipping companies, he has something that's almost a government. Yeah It's more a loose coalition with the same general goals and ideology
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Strategic Tea posted:Basically Johnson's OPA are a bunch of belters who pooled resources and built Tycho Station, aka the biggest shipyard and trade hub in the belt. Between that and a bunch of loosely aligned belter trade unions and shipping companies, he has something that's almost a government. In the books I think they say Tycho station was built by an Earther family/corporation, only that they actually care about Belter rights.
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etalian posted:Rocinante is pretty good literary joke given Holden's personality. Similar to Don Quixote Holden is obsessed at chasing windmills, has similar messiah complex and isn't cynical enough to see how hosed the world really is. Philthy posted:This show is still pretty cool. Are the books all done, or are we going to run into a Game of Thrones where the TV show takes over the books and the few people who can read get all tut tutt about it. coyo7e fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Jan 15, 2016 |
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:I thought the helmet scene was supposed to show that people who grew up in space can do poo poo regular humans can't I think it's part of the whole Belter cultural thing. Their (old) suits leave fat-rear end neck scars so presumably they were a tight seal below that point. You could open a faceplate for a few seconds and be okay in that case. Although if it were me I'd prefer if it were a little trickier to open my faceplate than just you know handling it 
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How can you possibly translate Avasarala to television without the full power of her obscenity?
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Subterfrugal posted:How can you possibly translate Avasarala to television without the full power of her obscenity? I'm hoping that the more she has to put up with Holden's crazy poo poo, the more she'll start swearing.
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flosofl posted:I'll admit I didn't pay too close attention to the EVA suits, but did they have articulated joints? Because that would allow higher pressure suit environments. Gloves might be problematic. Some of them might, but I really liked how when the young belter got dumped out of his ship he just hung there with his arms frozen because his suit was basically a giant balloon at that point.
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Oh I was wondering about that. I like that they're trying to be as hard as they can on the science. On the same note, I can see plenty of folks frequently go "Hurrr durrr durrr that's silly!" and being put them off for no reason.
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ShakeZula posted:http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0236495/?ref_=tt_cl_t12 He also looks really similar to MMA fighter Tim Kennedy.
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I finished Cibola Burn and went straight into Nemesis Games. I hope I never have to experience Elvi ever again but I'm sorry that Miller is gone 
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beerinator posted:Look at their consistency of book releases. My god, after seeing books in the Song of Ice and Fire series constantly be delayed and having to wait extra long for books from my other favorite fantasy authors, I just bow down and worship at that level of consistency. I can't imagine churning out 550 pages a year, even as a two-person team. I suppose that people like Stephen King and John Grisham just laugh at that as they pop out well over 1k a year on average though. Kesper North posted:Okay, a little hyperbole. You're right in that it doesn't boil, per se - but gas bubbles do form in the bloodstream, leading rapidly to unconsciousness within fifteen seconds, as the bubbles cut off blood flow to the brain as they form. (Source: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/survival-in-space-unprotected-possible/) Hmm, I didn't know that was the deal with current spacesuits. I have no problem assuming that was an issue they solved in the future from a pure suit standpoint, no fancy drugs required. On a similar note, for all the talk of how belter bodies are always wrecked by working in zero/low g and constantly being in space, I'd like to see a belter who is a crazily good fighter/physical specimen and just the deadliest dude or lady in a weightless environment. Basically, give me zero-g fight sequences, please and thank you. NowonSA fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Jan 15, 2016 |
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:I thought the helmet scene was supposed to show that people who grew up in space can do poo poo regular humans can't Nahhh they are still human. It just belters have lived in hard vacuum their whole life and know all the tips and tricks on dealing with such a harsh environment. Notice how he breathed out before opening his space suit to get all the air out of his lungs? It only looks amazing since have no experience with hard vacuum and what a person can and can not do in such a place.
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Subterfrugal posted:How can you possibly translate Avasarala to television without the full power of her obscenity? I love the actress but I do hope that as they get into more of the pre-existing story for her they ramp up the language some.
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